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I'm not saying she's sleazy. I agreed that her costumes are great, and she is rather pretty, probably not needing the assistance from the shoddy camera work and possibly airbrushing. I wasn't talking about her, I was talking about the gushing over her. I'm saying the thread went from a cosplay one to a "let's ogle hot girls who are in cosplay" one in feel that I've seen elsewhere. Not the first time too. There's been plenty of nice costume work barely commented on because it wasn't perfect or being worn by a goddess. It's not the costume that's sleazy, it's the absolute drooling that's going on just because a good looking women is portraying a popular character. Nothing wrong with that, of course a woman like that's going to get attention, but the last few posts before mine read like something out of your typical "Hot women" thread. This entire page was just comments on how gorgeous the girl was. Okay, we get it, she's hot. Don't switch on me and try to say it's the costumes' accuracy that's driving your appreciation now that I've called you on it. I hate lack of effort too, VRTR1, but none of this read as costume appreciation until I came in. I love hot women too, and agree that she's one of the sexier one, if not a little hookerish as Roy joked, but leave it for a thread about them. Here it's just creepy, as it looks like it the only reason were posting the pics. "Does this Sheryl 'do it' for you?" Do what? I think you miss the point, Max. I was joking around about the double standard of most cosplay photographers. Ie. They claim to be photographers of good cosplay, but in actuality, they're really photographers of cute girls, using cosplay as an excuse. Hence all these great costumes roll by with a few snaps, and suddenly a cute redhead in a fairly simple blue dress walks by and you can't count the flashes. Of course more attractive people get more pics. It's the definition of "attractive". It's not that the only good cosplayers are "fat, ugly ones" that love the show, it's that those fat, ugly ones can make good costumes too, but no one cares because the ones wearing them are, well, fat and ugly. Sheryl's attractive in the show, does that mean only attractive women make good Sheryl costumes and should portray her? That a great Sheryl costume on a hot woman is automatically superior to a great one on a average or *gasp* homely woman. A pot-bellied Sheryl might not be anime accurate or as pleasing to the eye, but credit most still be given if she did a good job regardless. It's that mentality that's the reason so many threads get started on Cosplay.com asking who they "look like". Basically, there's more focus on who's wearing the costume versus the costume itself. Understandable as it's human nature, but rather lame at times since I though we were discussing costumes, not how hot the Macross girl fandom is. Is this "Macross Cosplay" or "Hot Macross Cosplayers"? I've seen some well done Sheryl outfits get labeled "ok" just because the girl wearing it isn't the stuff wet dreams are made of. Nothing wrong going gaga over a hot Sheryl, just try to restrain yourselves, guys and not make it so obvious that that's the reason you're looking at the pics. People also cosplay for different reasons. Some just do it for fun, others like myself to celebrate a favorite character. Not everyone does it to scream "look at me." I forgot to add that given the number of costumes she has, I wasn't agreeing that she feel into that category, just that it does exist, so I'd edited my previous comment to reflect that. There's nothing wrong with it, but it is a different philosophy as to why they do it. I merely added the observation that a lot of the ones I've seen tend to stick to their body style. It really struck me at Fanime how all the Ranka's were petite, cutesy girls, while most of the Sheryls were tall, glamorous types. By comparison, this Ranka certainly doesn't fit the bill, but it's a great costume. It simply made me wonder if they were doing it because she's their favorite, or they simply liked the show and went with whomever. Sort of how when I'm in my SMS jacket, I'm effectively Ozma given my appearance. I know a Sheryl fan that cosplays Ranka (which, given the shipping wars hurt my brain for awhile). Nothing wrong either way, but an interesting observation. Though count me in as one that feels you should be familiar with what your cosplaying. Otherwise taking shots like that really feel like it's just for the appeal. Okay, I'm getting way too verbose here, but I just pained me a bit to see this thread look like a 4chan thread where all they do is ogle hot girls in costume. Admire all you want, she is sexy and I know it's mostly in jest, hence my all in good fun comment. Just remember that we're better than that.

From what I've heard..it's certainly different than the TV series now. Apparently everyone is just a little bit sane-er. Like apparently Asuka has some outward signs of actually liking Shinji this time around. *gasp* This comes second hand from translations I saw on 4chan...so...yeah. Of course...if they are just a little bit more sane...I wonder how much worse everyone will end up getting it in the end?

We're on the verge of the 2nd movies release, aren't we? Forgive me I've not read the whole thread, but this seems the right place to discuss. I'm really quite curious about what Anno is actually doing here with this Rebuild stuff. Some say it's a remake, but there's actually fairly strong evidence that it's actually a sequel or something to that effect (red stripe on the moon, sea of LCL, outline of 'crucified' MP eva, Kawru's talking about the third not changing when he gets out of the box on the moon, Nerv's giant thing having a different mask/face, the one of the moon having lilith's mask/face, it opens with the sea of red that EoE ended with). I'm not normally one for conspiracy but we all know Anno is a Trolls with the capital 'T'. Also I see a horrible, horrible end for this new Mari chick because quite a bit of what I've heard points to her as a fairly well adjusted person that doesn't use/abuse/ice Shinji (though some of that comes from 4chan....soooo...yeah).

God not this stupid dumb 4chan crap image again.

Hmmmm...... This ain't 4chan.org and there is a rule about using the forums like a chat room.....

You're probably not wrong about that. The outbreak has been confined mostly to AnimeSuki, but over there, Ohnogi has been essentially hailed as a god, while Kawamori is insulted and reviled at every opportunity. For me, the research started because I'm trying to translate all the Macross novels and stories, and Shaloom refers to a lot of them I'd never heard of before. Finding out that they didn't exist led to other things, and pretty soon I had all this text. And it would be like a 4chan prank except that nobody ever really questioned it...

After reading this thread I just have to ask, what would be the implication(s) of Ohnogi working on Macross Frontier? From what I can tell, there's off-hand comments about Kawamori's role/influence on the series but little more than that. The only thing I can discern by reading between the lines of Ohnogi's supposed "involvement" is some disgruntled opinion of Kawamori/Frontier. Are those opinions the reason for all this research and debate? If it's fun to research or a sense of pride is being gleamed from all this, who am I to argue? But if I didn't know any better, I'd say Ohnogi's supposed involvement was all a prank, like one would find at 4chan. Digressing, I guess I'm just curious what the big "revelation" would be if Ohnogi's "involvement" was proved/disproved. Is there some great treasure of valuable Macross trivia waiting at the end of this long road? I'm sensing a big anti-climax from all this.

This site haven't become like 4chan yet, has it?

I have some stuff I download off of 4chan it mostly about the recent shelved Megazone TV remake. It is called festival times. It contains some interviews and Mecha designs for the TV show. Let me know I can post them to the forum if you like Mond

Somebody posted some of these at 4chan...

An unfortunate reality. I know portions of my website are already on file sharing websites against my wishes. Many fans have brought it to my attention. It is the nature of the internet that abuses will happen. All I can ask is that people don't do it, but not much else. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has scanned each issue of the Chronicle and uploaded it on some file sharing site right now. 4chan is a good example.

Nope. I truly believe that everyone in this thread will respect your wishes. But once clean scans, with all of the Japanese text removed, are released onto the web, you can be sure that someone on 4chan or elsewhere will replace the paraphrased English text with your word-for-word translations.

I dunno man, you're starting to froth like that 1st Border Red Devil/ Brooklyn Reg Leg guy does over Southern Cross. Gotta make like Touhou and take it easy. I know this may sound strange but maybe you should scan those books and put them out there for other people to see. I've seen a lot of translation going on 4chan's /m/ board. Even Dougram and Xabungle are getting love over there.

Thanks, that line made my day. I am a bit of an amateur photographer, one that's particularly diehard about film at that. I understand that digital has it's uses, and providing quick snapshots to update to the web is one of them. I'd never waste film just to provide the shots of my Max no one seems to care for anyway. I just like that the limitations of the format encourage better discipline in composing one's shot that's absolutely gone with digital. Digital's disposable nature makes one satisfied with posting over/underexposted, badly framed crap, simply because they can deleate it and try again, so one tends to stop caring and just mass dumps. This breeds mediocrity. It's not that I frown at such things fully, after all, not everyone cares about their picture skills like some do. Digital has allowed such people to take pictures that they probably wouldn't have. Though my biggest pet peeve is the dread of having to buy digital because "films dead" and people look at you funny when you say you don't like digital when it's "so convenient". Of course, there are plenty of bad film snapshots, you just don't find them on flickr. Basically I'm saying that a lot of the shots we see from Japan are from hobbyists and semi-pro that have a handle on how their equipment works, and in america we have access to a much larger pool, including the shutter bug that leaves everything on full auto, and has no idea that their pictures are dark because a window's behind them. I'm sure the Japanese have the same crappy shots, we just don't find them on 4chan. Quick shots have their uses though, and sadly even I'm limited to using my 2.0mp cell phone camera since my SLR is locked up, my point and shoot's latch is broken, I miss depth prevue when using dad's SLR, and no one will buy, let alone develop my film. So, I've been taking my own fair share of crap thanks to my current limatations, though no real photographer blames his equipment. As for "how to take better cosplay pictures" it's simple. Do what I did and learn by doing. Don't just delete your bad pics, ask yourself why they're bad. Play with the camera settings. I can understand an unwellingness to experiment with film, but with digital there's no excuse. Don't relay so much on flash and auto (though know when to use automation). Simply retaking the shot at different ISOs (if your camera allows it, my sis has a digital that won't allow flash in any mood but the auto ones which is messed up) and reading a little will help dramatically. It's like how I learned that my grainy night shots of Sleeping Beauty castle were NOT being helped by my then preference for 400 speed film, so I switched to 200. Though the biggest thing I can say is be aware of the lighting and fill the damn frame. I remember somewhere reading that a shutterbug takes a photo of a subject, a photographer takes a photo of light. It's very true. I've also seen people who never realise that they can hold the camera sideways (yet these same people love videotaping sideways). These are things one should figure out alone within the first 100 shots taken. Damn it, I want my real cameras back! I need to get them fixed somehow. I just hope none of my film has spoiled in the years since they've been exposed. I haven't seen a shot I've taken on film in ages. My skill's waning.

Those are from Macross Chronicle. And we're not 4chan.

When I saw this pic on 4chan, I just couldn't help but remember that post. and here's another for kicks:

Doesn't anyone ever find Grace art at 4chan or Danbooru?

Found this on 4chan. Does anybody know if is about the movie or if it contains any important information about it? Has it been posted here before?

Found these in a Clang thread at 4chan...

I'm hoping so too... FlamingGauntlet did a bunch of art for us as part of a "make your own color scheme" gimmick for the site, and for our mecha stats pages, and one of the most-discussed ones is his attempt to make sense of the various screen captures from Macross: Eternal Love Song and cobble together a VF-4S Siren from them. It actually leaked out onto 4chan a week or so ago, though how it got there is anybody's guess, since it was made specifically for us.

Anyone managed to get the pic of Reborns Gundam from 4chan? It appears there's a Gundam under that Guncannon look-alike....

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FE8O9GOM Macross 7 scans are up [edit] Also, looking in the 4chan's RS section, I found a bunch of rapidshare links and found this site: http://archive-scans.blogspot.com/search/label/Macross (My new favorite place! ) LOTS of Macross scans. Indulge yourselves. The files are all on rapidshare so downloading will take awhile if you don't have an account with them. Also, they are passworded. The PW is "Archive". Smaller Samples (because I can't upload the bigger ones ) from the scanned Macross F fan book from the Archive-Scans site, I think most of you have seen these already though--or bought the book. (2916x4000 pixels reduced to 1458x2000 pixels)

They are a decent community, alot of their wallpapers look absolutely great (while some others suffer for clutter and text), the wallpapers are free though you have to register. Also (I don't know if they still do this) if you participate in their forums you get some of their "currency", this I don't like. But hey, don't worry, either 4chan will grab them and/or APrip will probably already have it [edit]Oh, looks like it's already been grabbed: http://rapidshare.com/files/163401627/Macr...Paper_Scans.rar Enjoy guys!

Same thread where I've been getting the size charts, 4chan /m/.

lol, I sooo want to share this image of a 4chan thread about mollusks and underwater sea creatures after reading your post. But I can't share it, it's the imagination is what makes it so NSFW.