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They do have different shoulders, but it's not really a significant enough difference for me to care, and it saves me from having to paint them to match if I make my own. I still might need to repaint the yellow part though. As for the others.. just because we think it makes sense for Bandai to make something doesn't mean they ever will. (Insert screaming about the Tomahawk here.) The Kai/P and F/S models have some significant changes. If Bandai doesn't think it's worth making, they won't do it. As much as I want to buy a ton, I'm keeping my expectations at the bare minimum. Funny enough though.. yeah, those stripes aren't supposed to line up at all. They didn't on the Yamato, or in the animation. The hip parts being an issue isn't new though. I had issues with my Fire Valk's hips, and one of the internal die-cast connectors for the hip actually broke. It still stays on, because it's held on by more than just that part, but making those hip segments out of metal may not have been the best idea.
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That's a very sad thing to hear, but very logical and likely scenario. 😕 Yea I thought I'd try to comb through the earlier pages of the thread last night for a pic of the grey prototype (because I was interested in Bandai's earlier approach), but got only as far as the 15th page before falling asleep. LOL... no worries.
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😅Take your time! No rush at all!
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Your Most Recent General Toy Purchase - 2024 Edition
Negotiator replied to azrael's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Thank you McFarlane for selling out on your crappy version and forcing me to get this one...even tho I'm 3 years late. Got it unopened for a good deal.
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Oh man, you're tempting me to push this up in my review cycle.
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Too bad the image provided by Bandai doesn't show the top portion of the incorrect shoulder. The erroneous proportion of the shoulder shown looks like the pre-renewal (1st edition) shoulder which does not have a cutout on the top outer edges (for the super/fast packs). I just really hope it's not a case of pre-renewal molded shoulders in circulation... 🙄 Thank you @jenius for pics, 🙏.
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Swann replied to Swann's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
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What rumor? I want to see Tron.
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Oh yeah, I thought some had two right shoulders but if it's just a part swap, super easy fix.
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https://twitter.com/MTM_025_8_S04/status/1971357252264276332 web-translated:
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You forgot the third option... You could also track down the old Bandai 1/65, because it's probably much cheaper. I don't know if I can call the DX a "realistic" approach though, the weird shrinking/resizing/rearranging of the components just makes the entire torso look like it has no substance to even connect the legs to. I think that's more impactful than the skinny legs, really, since I feel like they managed to make the legs look decent on the 171. Reducing down the nose to the older style stub really feels like it breaks the design of everything below the chest, and the legs are just dangling, attached to nothing at all, because the nose section isn't there to give them something to connect to. It's just weird trying to blend the two.
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In a way, we're getting the best of both worlds from an aesthetic protective. If you want something more like the show, track down the Yamato. If you want a more "realistic" approach, get the DX. If you were let down by the Yamato and want something like it but better, tweet Arcadia... But I think it sold like a turd for Yamato so don't hold your breath.
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The Transformers Thread (licensed) Next
26662 replied to mikeszekely's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
...but only if we get a Misfits Airachnid to pose alongside.
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Well, it's not me up against the wall since I'm not the one trying to reconcile it. I've stated more than once that I don't agree with them doing things that way. I'm just pointing out their rationale, what they've done with it, and just the fact that they do have such a rationale on their cards to play.
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Basically, you're up against a wall of trying to reconcile the fact that the two look nothing alike in their respective series. They can draft up any harebrained lore explanation they like, it doesn't change what we see on screen with our own eyes. Reality is just that the aesthetics of the two series are incompatible. Writing it into the story doesn't change that for the viewers. If Bandai really was intent on retconning the size of the original, they shouldn't have renamed it in the first place, because it drew a dividing line between the designs, marking them as distinct craft. Trying to backpedal on that retcon now is a losing battle, and one of the major issues is just that the blended aesthetic is so schizophrenic. Doing a selective resize of the components to try and pass the 171 off as an original VF-17 just gives us a misshapen caricature like the doodle in the previous page, because the separate components are now all out of proportion with each other, and it fails miserably at actually giving the same aesthetic as the original in M7.
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I dunno if "cost-effective" is the term to use with this Bandai decision of badly cosplaying a DX-171 mould into a DX-17. I reckon the more cost-effective and more common-sense thing for Bandai to rather do is to re-paint DX DYRL-1A Kaki into DX DYRL-1A Hikaru or DX DYRL-1A Max. oh, well...
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Maybe it's assumed you can pop them out and swap the two sides around by yourself. Don't have mine yet, so don't know how shoulder assembly works. Unless they doubled up on the same sided parts like the YF-21's shoulders again, so that no amount of ease of disassembly matters... EDIT: Seems like Heppoko made another tweet about fixing it in 10 minutes. So here's to hoping the issue is limited to them actually just mixing up rationed out L/R pieces for final assembly, and not a situation where they could have used two of the same for either side
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Well, I just watched the morita guy's deep dive into VF-17 design lore, literally the day before this toy was announced. Unless that channel is all fanfic and lies, or I'm tripping out, the lore is supposedly contrary to what you and others are saying. IIRC, the lore goes that, the nose/cockpit was changed on the 171 to favor avionics because they no longer needed conventional passive stealth geometry after VF-19 and 22 introduced active fold stealth. Then the EX changed it some more to accomodate EX gear tech that LAI backported from the VF-25. The elbow guns weren't needed because the gunpod became external. The gunpod became external because because its storage compartment got cannibalized by retrofitting it with the larger and more powerful VF-19's engines inside the same old legs. But it was fine to move the gunpod outside because once again, stealth geometry was no longer needed. None of this suggests going from a 3 storey gargantuan stealth bomber to a modest 1 storey playground replica of it. Especially not with the engine swap going in the opposite direction. That's why I don't understand why they are considered vastly different sized aircrafts with no parts commonality around here.
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I know what you are tolking about. I even acknowledged that it saves them work from coming up with transformation articulation. But my original comment was very much replying to this comment that was specifically about toy production and not about design work. So I'm just pointing out that the 19Kai can't be made with "minor alterations". Unless you guys consider building a majority of new plastic injection molds to be a minority of the work in manufacturing the toy, then I have nothing left to debate on the 19.
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So just an apology? No word of replacement parts?
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The Transformers Thread (licensed) Next
Valkyrie Hunter D replied to mikeszekely's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
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Well I guess I know what's coming! Agreed, I'm going to be a lot more judicious with my purchases abroad until we get some slower shipping and cheaper options.
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Aircraft Super Thread Mk.VII
electric indigo replied to David Hingtgen's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Meanwhile, in China https://x.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1971509335944729072
