1/60 Yamato VF-4G Web-Exclusive Toy

[ps99042]

Thanks Swoosh! How did ever miss this? Guess I'm gonna go check ebay...

[IScustom]

Not sure if this has been posted before, some 1/72 VF-4 pics from Model Graphix , there is a VF-1 next to it for size comparison.

Woo, thanks for sharing these great pictures. Never know vf-4 can be so beautiful! Hope Yamato's one is even much better.

[Dobber]

Meh, the build is fantastic, but the sculpt of that model is hideous IMO.

I think the musasiya sculpt is perfect.

Chris

[VF5SS]

The VF-4 looks more compact in the design works

[Reïvaj]

The VF-4 looks more compact in the design works

True. I like it better.

I guess that’s the image Yamato’s taking as a reference but their wing/fins alignment don’t correspond either.

[David Hingtgen]

Exactly----the "aligned" wings and fins from head-on seems to be a consistent trademark of the VF-4, in every depiction. (except Yamato's)

[Mommar]

Graham should point that out. It really is a defining characteristic of fighter mode and it really loses the profile with them being off. I could see that being a HUGE turn-off to the fans of the fighter mode.

[VF5SS]

Most of those fins cant in and outwards by design.

Sooooo I dunno.

You can fiddle with them.

[Reïvaj]

That wouldn’t be a turn-off to me at all. A little customization would be enough if the final product was too bad, which is most unlikely.

In Yamato I trust.

[VF5SS]

But you don't have to customize anything. All of those fins save for the leg ones can move due to the transformation.

[Dobber]

Yup.

For me the nose is the main thing I'd like to see fixed.

Chris

[VF5SS]

For me the nose is the main thing I'd like to see fixed.

Well tough!

You will buy it and like it!

[Reïvaj]

But you don't have to customize anything. All of those fins save for the leg ones can move due to the transformation.

Yeah, I know I don't

By the way, the leg fins are also suposed to move:

[Dobber]

Well tough!

You will buy it and like it!

"......will buy v f 4........no matter whaaaaaaaat...."

Curse you Veef!

Chris

Edited January 31, 2012 by Dobber

[VF5SS]

You will hear me, Pumaman!

Obey.

Obey!

[Mommar]

But you don't have to customize anything. All of those fins save for the leg ones can move due to the transformation.

Depending on their placement and how the hinges work it may not be as simple as "just move it."

[VF5SS]

Both the canards and tail fins have to move downward for the transformation. The canards appear too high in the CAD rendering so unless they do something clever, I think they can move downward.

[Jasonc]

I noticed the leg fins move in early pics of the same line art. I do hope that the standard fixed position is parallel like in the line art. Either way, our next pic should be either of an updated CAD, or maybe a clay model of it?

[David Hingtgen]

The ventral fins have to move, otherwise it couldn't sit on its landing gear.

THE SV-51 IS EXACTLY THE SAME. (real-life analogues include the MiG-23/27, and F8U-3 Super Crusader)

[Chthonic]

I figured it was only necessary that I do this. It's the 30th Anniversy and we're all talking about my favorite Valkyrie- I have some pics here. THere from a great guy, He's been MIA. I don't know where's he's been, but I thought it was fair. He original told me this fan group from Japan originally did these back in the 80's before Kawamori-san did the transformation design for the VF-4 and thought it was only fair to show thse.

BTW if if comes from HIM. It's pretty much CANNON. He only deals with CANNON and NO BS

Graham knows whom I'm talking about.

Edited February 1, 2012 by Chthonic

[charger69]

BTW if if comes from HIM. It's pretty much CANNON. He only deals with CANNON and NO BS

Graham knows whom I'm talking about.

Interesting!

BTW these are more like VF-X4

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg696/scaled.php?server=696&filename=post249559vfx4gerwalk.jpg&res=medium

Edited February 1, 2012 by charger69

[VF5SS]

Right but that just matches the VF-X-4 Gerwalk mode sketch seen in the Design works that corresponds to this picture by Kawamori

http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/art/kawamori_vfx4_gerwalk.jpg

[Chthonic]

You're Right- The cooler thing though is that these were out before we got that sketch-the fan group did alot of pictures of the valkyries up to that point. BEFORE we knew about Macross.

[VF5SS]

Where does that Kawamori sketch come from anyways? The basic line art is in the design works but I don't recall what book the full color picture is in.

[Mommar]

I do like the look of that little Valk Uzi though.

[Reïvaj]

Interesting VF-X4

[David Hingtgen]

But you don't have to customize anything. All of those fins save for the leg ones can move due to the transformation.

Yes, but will they "lock" into the proper place? It'd be very annoying to have to carefully, manually move each fin 1mm at a time to line them up perfectly---and then hope nobody breathes on it heavily, moving them out of alignment. (same as getting both the left and right wings at the same angle of sweep on the non-detented valks)

Big difference between being able to align, and intentionally being designed to do so in fighter mode.

[pud333]

I'm pretty excited about seeing some prototype of this toy. Maybe mid year hopefully?

[Jasonc]

Yes, but will they "lock" into the proper place? It'd be very annoying to have to carefully, manually move each fin 1mm at a time to line them up perfectly---and then hope nobody breathes on it heavily, moving them out of alignment. (same as getting both the left and right wings at the same angle of sweep on the non-detented valks)

Big difference between being able to align, and intentionally being designed to do so in fighter mode.

That was my question above. Like the VF-1. Those fins rotate, but lock in the position they're supposed to be stationed at in Fighter and Battroid.

[VF5SS]

Yes, but will they "lock" into the proper place?

Can you tone down the OCD in your posts

You're a kewl pony, but it seems like you're just looking for every tiny reason not to buy something.

[Mommar]

Can you tone down the OCD in your posts

You're a kewl pony, but it seems like you're just looking for every tiny reason not to buy something.

It's a valid question. The only issue here is it's in direct response to your assertion the fins will move therefore they can be aligned which could be very, very wrong. Unless they lock in place that may not be the case, those YF-21/VF-22 wings hold okay at their maximum but they also have to move for transformation and they dont' always hold that great at angles that aren't fully extended/fully closed. What's with your super-defender attitude toward this particular Valk? We're voicing what we feel is important, you keep trying to bat people down.

[VF5SS]

Why are you super pointlessly nitpicking something none of us have any real control over

If you want to talk pinned joints on hinges I'm down. We can compared hastily scribbled notes on bar napkins.

Considering how all of these toys have to be approved by people in higher positions of nerd power than us and the fact that the last two Yamato Valkyries have been the best toys ever™, I'm not terribly worried about the tiny details.

ps I really want to take a picture of my Destroid Defender with a cape because that would be a Super-Defender but I don't have a cape that's big enough

[charger69]

ps I really want to take a picture of my Destroid Defender with a cape because that would be a Super-Defender but I don't have a cape that's big enough

[OutofTopic]

Every Destroid Defender reserves an iGear MP-01 Cape accessory because they are the real heroes of Space War I!!

iGear MP-01 Cape

http://www.bigbadtoy...008&mode=retail

[/OutofTopic]

Edited February 2, 2012 by charger69

[Reïvaj]

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Considering how all of these toys have to be approved by people in higher positions of nerd power than us and the fact that the last two Yamato Valkyries have been the best toys ever™, I'm not terribly worried about the tiny details.

[...]

Don't forget the 1/3000 SDF-1. I don’t think it’s a detail lacking toy either.

[pud333]

I thinks this toy will turn out just fine. With the new factory they use, and the extremely high quality of the latest releases, I have faith Yamato will do justice to this design. The SDF-1, Kai, blazer, and 17 are all badass.