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'Preciate the review, Mike. I believe my copy is on its way to me. I generally don't go in for repaints, but I thought the changes between Wreck-Gar and Junkheap differentiated them enough to warrant having both. Too, there's the idea of one riding the other like we saw in the film. Lastly, while I'm not a huge fan of the Junkions per se (I thought they were a little too ridiculous, even by 80s standards), I have a thing for transforming motorcycles (I'm not even a fan of the real things- go figure), and Wreck-Gar is one of the notable molds from SS86. Makes getting a repaint/retool more justifiable, in my mind anyway. 

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So I was at my local Target today shopping for my kid's birthday.  I didn't expect to find anything new Transformers-wise, but I looked anyway.  Silverstreak/Blue Bluestreak is on clearance now, and was going for around $11.  Also, the Core-class Studio Series figures (no other Studio Series, and not Legacy Core-class) was on sale for around $5.  Now, I'd already picked up Ravage to go with BB Soundwave and Spike to go with my other '86 figures, but I'd been passing on Shockwave.  Frankly, a Voyager-class BB Shockwave would have gotten bought in a minute, but with a Core-class Shockwave being massively out-of-scale with every other BB movie figure in the line it always sort of struck me as a pointless waste to fill out a slot they needed to create for Ravage and Spike (that still would have been better filled by an '86 Rumble, Frenzy, or Wheelie, really).  But after reviewing the Legacy Core-class Shockwave I'll admit that I was a little more curious about the Studio Series one, and the Big Mac my wife ate a little earlier cost more Shockwave's sale price, so...

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You know, for the small size and low budget, Hasbro did a fairly decent job here.  The unpainted gray plastic might have been better in white, and some more of the mechanical detail in his joints and forearms could use a wash, plus he's got treads on his forearms that the CGI didn't, and sure, he's missing the hose, but for the most part the sculpt and colors are accurate.  Plus, while there is some waffling on the backs of his forearms, he doesn't feel as needlessly hollow as his Legacy counterpart.

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Actually, you might notice that it's not just the hose missing, it's his whole gun hand!  Or rather, he has two actual hands.  Well, the gun's not missing, it's an accessory.  There's a peg inside, and the whole thing fits over his forearm.  The hose is still missing, though, and as with the figure itself it could probably use a wash for some of the mechanical details, but the sculpt is accurate enough.

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Shockwave's articulation is a tad poor.  His head can swivel, no tilt.  His ball-jointed shoulders can rotate but they can only move about 60 degrees laterally.  He does have bicep swivels; unfortunately, for transformation he also has swivels below his elbows, and as those joints are looser they tend to turn and not his actual biceps.  Speaking of elbows, they bend a little shy of 90 degrees.  There's no wrist or waist swivels.  His hips, again ball joints, only get about 60 degrees forward or laterally, and only 45 degrees backward.  Plus, the limited range they have on the ball is the only thigh swivel he's got.  His knees bend about 60 degrees.  His feet have some upward tilt and over 90 degrees of downward tilt due to his transformation, but he doesn't have any ankle pivots.

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Shockwave turns into a tank.  I mean, he didn't transform in the movie, but concept art shows him as a tank, and this toy turns into a tank, and that puts it ahead of that one 3P figure, eh?  Transformation is fairly simply and does involve some partsforming, but the result's not too shabby.

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The tank's not as flat as the concept art, and the realities of limbs shaped like the CGI ones that can't magically make the smoother shapes of the concept art's alt mode means that he's perhaps not quite as cohesive as the concept art, but I don't mind it.  Indeed, the whole thing gives me major Transformers Prime Shockwave vibes, and if you're not going to make Shockwave a giant space gun then Prime Shockwave's tank mode is a good runner up.  That said, while I still wouldn't mind a Voyager-class figure of this Shockwave you can't just scale up this figure; the visible fists and obvious head peaking from the back won't fly at that scale/budget.

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At the Core-class, though, the head and partsforming is actually kind of clever.  The peg that goes into his fist for bot mode actually folds so it's pointed out the back, and it plugs into the back of Shockwave's head.  This means that Shockwave's neck swivel becomes a swivel for the turret, and the hinge that moves the peg from vertical to horizontal allows the barrel to tilt up and down.

Ultimately, it's still hard to recommend Studio Series Core-class Shockwave, for the very reasons I'd passed on him in the first place- it scales with nothing.  To scale with the other Bumblebee characters that have been released in the Studio Series line Shockwave should be a Voyager, and no other Voyager-sized bots from the film have been shrunk for the Core-class.  What's more, Hasbro's reasoning for similar Core-class releases in War for Cybertron and Legacy, like my other recent Shockwave review, is that having bigger characters in a smaller size makes the Titans seem bigger.  But so far there haven't been any Titan-class releases in the entire Studio Series line, let alone one from Bumblebee.  There is no reason for this Shockwave to exist, especially in lieu of a Voyager one.

That said, the simple fact is that if you can overlook the scale issues for a minute this Shockwave is a better toy than the Legacy one.  It's got better color breakup and seems more detailed, it's less hollow, the transformation is more fun, and the alt mode is better.  So here's the thing- you probably don't need either Core-class Shockwave in your life.  But if you think that you do, go for the Studio Series one over the Legacy one.

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Wotafa got an early sample of MP Skyfire.

Love the elegant solution to hide the folded wings and compact the backpack and the extra/separate hip articulation is neat, it can act like a reverse waist/ab crunch to the main body. Transformation being more on the chunky and simplistic side is not to my liking, but not something that will deter me from getting MP-57.

And it is called RESPECT mode when doing VF-1/Jetfire references, don't call it anything different😄

 

 

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35 minutes ago, lechuck said:

Wotafa got an early sample of MP Skyfire.

Love the elegant solution to hide the folded wings and compact the backpack and the extra/separate hip articulation is neat, it can act like a reverse waist/ab crunch to the main body. Transformation being more on the chunky and simplistic side is not to my liking, but not something that will deter me from getting MP-57.

And it is called RESPECT mode when doing VF-1/Jetfire references, don't call it anything different😄

 

 

Skyfire looks good but I’m content with Phoenix. I might buy one if they do a repaint. Maybe with a toy deco.

I don’t know if this will happen since I‘m still wait for Detritus from Hound. ^_^

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I agree, Skyfire looks good. I like a number of TT's solutions/features- the extra hip joint, the knee design, the extending feet, the collapsing backpack & Respect mode 😉, the folding wings, the gorgeous landing gear.  I'm surprised they didn't try to give him more abduction range in the shoulders through yet another clever solution. Too, waist swivel. It is a cool fig, though, and if I didn't already have Phoenix, which I still prefer for various reasons, I wouldn't have hesitated a second getting an order in for this guy.  I'd also be lying if I said I wasn't still tempted. Not sure where I'd put him, though- I'm outta space, especially for these larger figs. To have an official Skyfire, aside from Siege Jetfire, is something I wished for for a long time, and now that it's here, and done well, not getting him seems a missed opportunity. Sigh.

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Seee---that's my major problem with this guy!  I pre-ordred without thinking through the WHERE part.  Seriously, I don't have the room, but I want him.  Does anyone know if Magic Square or New Age is gonna maybe try to pull this off in a smaller scale sooner than later? 

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8 hours ago, derex3592 said:

Seee---that's my major problem with this guy!  I pre-ordred without thinking through the WHERE part.  Seriously, I don't have the room, but I want him.  Does anyone know if Magic Square or New Age is gonna maybe try to pull this off in a smaller scale sooner than later? 

Magic Square's take:

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AFAIK, no pics in jet mode have been released. I looked, but didn't find any.

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Apropos of nothing, but I saw a picture of the G1 Ironhide toy with a bunch of Diaclone figures on it, and it really does make it look a lot more fun and less, ummm, drunkenly inept.

Amazing the difference it makes when a toy has ALL its accessories.

 

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1 hour ago, no3Ljm said:

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Disappointing that they don’t come in player 2 colors since 2022 is the 30th anniversary of SF2 Turbo which introduced the second color for all the characters if I remember correctly.

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6 hours ago, JB0 said:

Apropos of nothing, but I saw a picture of the G1 Ironhide toy with a bunch of Diaclone figures on it, and it really does make it look a lot more fun and less, ummm, drunkenly inept.

Amazing the difference it makes when a toy has ALL its accessories.

 

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This design makes far more sense in the context of Diaclone, and he's really a two-fer so far as the toy goes. That said, I'm surprised that Hasbro wanted to use this mold in their TF line, as it strayed quite noticeably aesthetically from the rest of the car-bots.  I prefer Floro Derry's extensive redesign for the series, although it made the toy less appealing, at least to me (I had Ratchet) b/c of the extent of the differences between toy and toon. The toon version looked much better to me, and it's only been within the last 5-10 years that we've actually got toys that approximate the G1 design well.

A modern update of the Diaclone Vanette within the Diaclone universe would be neat to see, especially the mech portion.

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3 hours ago, M'Kyuun said:

A modern update of the Diaclone Vanette within the Diaclone universe would be neat to see, especially the mech portion.

Sadly, this seems unlikely. Diaclone 2 is sticking to the sci-fi aesthetic and avoiding too much Transformers overlap. I'm honestly surprised they did Battle Convoy, but it came out VERY different than the Optimus Prime we know and love.

 

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On 7/2/2022 at 12:33 PM, Scyla said:

Skyfire looks good but I’m content with Phoenix. I might buy one if they do a repaint. Maybe with a toy deco.

I don’t know if this will happen since I‘m still wait for Detritus from Hound. ^_^

Yeah Detritus... still waiting on him too. When Hound came out I was sure that within a year we would get the repaint. I think there was that prototype rifle or something that they showed off with Hound early on, but did not end up part of his accessories and that kind of fueled the idea Detritus was imminent.

Personally I wish Takara would make it a default practice to release a Decepticon alter-ego from each carbot just to fill the ranks. They have done it for some but not all, use existing names/characters or create new ones, it doesn't matter.

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4 hours ago, mikeszekely said:

The fandom: how about a Studio Series 86 Ratchet, since the Siege Retool wasn't the greatest and kind of hard to get?

Hasbro's Monkey Paw: Granted- but Core class.

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If they're going to do everyone in core class, so be it.  I imagine I'm not alone in hoping that SS86 will give us a better set of vanette bros than the ER retool of the Siege mold. And hopefully, they'll hide the feet better. Yeesh!

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In Demand Toys released pics of upcoming Legacy Armada Starscream and Beast Wars Inferno.

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I have no interest in Armada Starscream, but I always liked Inferno's character, and I love robotic insects. The only issue I see with the Legacy version is that, in order to pursue a more realistic ant mode, they eschewed the use of the robot arms and legs in ant mode for faux realistic ant legs, which necessitated their hiding both the arms and legs elsewhere in the alt mode. Since the legs are housed in the abdomen, the 4 piece-petal-like rocket booster on his butt now only has three petals, and the robot mode's gun is no longer housed within the ant's head as it was on the original toy. Looking back on the animation, Inferno's gun was sometimes animated to look like his flight rockets, which is what this toy's gun resembles. I wonder if they were at least able to work in a rotating gimmick for those abdomen petals, as they spun like a propeller in the show and on the original toy. Whatever else, I think they captured the maniacal look of Inferno with that head sculpt. "For the Royalty!" 

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Ratchet's going to be one of those thinks like Shockwave, where I don't plan on buying one but wind up seeing him in the store and thinking "why not?".

I'm in for Starscream and Inferno, but definitely looking forward to Starscream more.  I didn't collect at the time Armada came out, and when I did see the show I thought it was terrible, but I actually do like a lot of the designs in it, some of them were the best of the Unicron Trilogy.  Looking forward to replacing the old Generations Deluxe.  I find it amusing, actually, that both versions of that mold are getting replaced since we're getting Jhiaxus, too (as soon as this Friday, maybe, according to Amazon- hope the rest of wave 2 starts shipping early!).

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Armada Starscream looks like the T30 toy to me. I compared them side by side and the are slightly different. I guess the show model doesn’t allow for different engineering and that’s why they look so similar.

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6 hours ago, Scyla said:

Armada Starscream looks like the T30 toy to me. I compared them side by side and the are slightly different. I guess the show model doesn’t allow for different engineering and that’s why they look so similar.

Probably. The new Voyager had more paint apps and red feet that make it more cartoon accurate overall, though. And it eschews the streamlining the T30 toy did and goes back to the original  "just leave the arms dangling under the wings" thing, which again is technically more accurate. Plus it'll be bigger and have ankles. That's enough of an improvement to get my money.

 

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52 minutes ago, mikeszekely said:

Probably. The new Voyager had more paint apps and red feet that make it more cartoon accurate overall, though. And it eschews the streamlining the T30 toy did and goes back to the original  "just leave the arms dangling under the wings" thing, which again is technically more accurate. Plus it'll be bigger and have ankles. That's enough of an improvement to get my money.

 

The big draw for me would be that they did away with the stupid missile launching gimmicks. So if they do a blue Super Starscream version I might bite.

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8 hours ago, Scyla said:

As an avid collector black and teal robots I’m excited even if the mold has flaws.

I hope Takara doesn’t skimp on the paint as they did with MP-49 Black Convoy. :angry:

You might be in for a treat.

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1 hour ago, lechuck said:

You might be in for a treat.

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It looks good. But I reserve final judgement until I have him in hand.

MP-49 looked good in pictures too and MP-44 had me excited but the toy was a disappointment once I took him out of the box; yuck. :bad:

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I'm fine with MP-49 being the way he is. Sure, painting him would so much better, but had Takara done that I'm certain the number one complaint and false argumentation would have been a supposedly oh so expensive price again instead of not having paint.

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Well... I'd still like to know how all the Youtubers are getting Motormaster and Blitzwing already and I'm not... but I did get my hands on my first Legacy Wave 2 figure.  And wouldn't you know it, after talking about Legacy Starscream and how it replaces the Thrilling 30 version the figure I got replaces T30 Starscream's mold mate- it's Voyager-class Jhiaxus!

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So... it's hard to say if Jhiaxus is a major or minor character.  On the one hand, he was the main villain for most of the Marvel Comics Generation 2 run... but on the other hand, Generation 2 hit a rough point in Marvel's history, was only guaranteed a 12-issue run, didn't meet expectations, and was canned.  Indeed, Jhiaxus' name came from writer Simon Furman's feelings dealing with Marvel- it's read as "Gee, axe us."  So the new Decepticon big bad appeared in what wound up being a comic book miniseries, had no toy, and might have faded into obscurity... except that a little over a decade later he was again writing Transformers, this time for IDW, and he brought the character back.  It was technically the IDW Jhiaxus that got the Thrilling 30 toy, and his in-comics appearance was even changed to look like the toy for the "Dark Cybertron" arc.  Then almost another decade goes by, and Hasbro's bringing Jhiaxus back again, only this time the comics have nothing to do with it.  Or rather, "G2 Universe" Jhiaxus is based on his slightly Seeker-ish, slightly ridiculous Marvel Comics G2 artwork.  And, at least in robot mode, Legacy Jhiaxus is kind of brilliant.  Depending on the issue he might have a bit more yellow on his torso than the comics, and his biceps and the white parts of his shins are maybe not as rounded, but for the most part he's extremely accurate the comics, down the exposed wiring and little bat wings on his shins.  Furthermore, he's a pretty clean robot, with a minimal backpack and almost none of the plastic-saving hollows you find on most modern Hasbro Transformers.  Even his forearms have panels that open to let the wrists fold in then close back up.  He's even got a fair amount of paint on him, as most of the yellow on his legs, feet, torso, and face is painted on white/white/translucent/red plastic, plus there's silver paint on his shins and the hoses on his head, green paint on the sensors on his right side, and orange paint in his alt mode thrusters (as we'll see later).

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Oh, and if a Jhiaxus/Jhiaxus size comparison isn't super useful for you, here he is with the other Generation 1 leaders.  I think that works for me.  Oh, and if you happen to have the Studio Series Starscream that comes with the throne, Jhiaxus fits excellently on it.

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Jhiaxus comes with a pair of guns.  Curiously, while one is larger and plain red plastic and the other is smaller with silver paint on smoked translucent plastic, the sculpt of the guns is basically the same sculpt, down to them both having a peg on the same size.  There are a few differences, though, like the magazine peaking out of the bottom of the red one, the fact that the smaller one has a peg hole on the side opposite the peg, and the red one has a 5mm peg on the butt.  I'm unsure where the design comes from- in the comics, Jhiaxus fought with his bare hands.

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Jhiaxus' head is on a ball joint with little downward tilt due to his chin, but some upward and sideways tilt in addition to rotation.  His shoulders can rotate, and they can move laterally about 75 degrees (although you can kind of get it to 90 by pulling out the transformation hinge), but unfortunately like Hot Rod the joint for lateral movement is in the chest, not the shoulder, on the wrong side of the rotation.  His biceps swivel, and his single-jointed elbows bend around 120 degrees.  His wrists swivel, and he's actually got a piun through his fingers so he can open and close his hands like Earthrise Optimus.  His waist swivels.  His hips can go forward over 90 degrees, backward about 45 degrees, and laterally a bit under 90 degrees- a bit less than we're used to, but enough for most poses, I think.  His thighs swivel, and his knees bend around 120 degrees.  His feet don't really tilt up, but they can tilt down, and he does have ankle pivots.

He can hold both of his guns just fine in either hand.

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Additionally, Jhiaxus has a 5mm port on his back, on the outside of each shoulder, on the outside of each forearm, on the outside of each leg, and under each heel, if you need places to store his weapons.  Actually, you can store both on his back if you put the smaller gun in first, then plug the red gun into the peg hole on the smaller gun.

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Jhiaxus turns into a Cybertronian jet of some kind.  The process wasn't immediately obvious to me by looking at pictures, but in-hand it's pretty straightforward.  I'm not loving his visible face behind the translucent canopy, and unfortunately you can't simply turn his head around or his arms won't fit properly on the underside of the jet.

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Speaking of those arms...  it might  not be the sleekest, but Jhiaxus almost does a good job of turning into a jet, instead of a wearing a jet that carries a robot underneath in alt mode.  Almost.  But his arms had to go and spoil it.  They shift backward and they tab in place, so the whole thing is solid, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a jet with two big ol' arms hanging on his underside.

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And, ok, I get that his arms are far to big to fit, but having these big blocky arms just hanging there while a good portion of the front of the jet is actually hollow kind of adds insult to injury here.

Oh, and Jhiaxus' jet mode isn't even all that accurate to the comics.  In broad strokes, sure, it's white and gold with a red nose, a long narrow fuselage, and green scalloped wings at the back.  But it's missing the eyes or weapon ports or whatever they were near the nose, it has a canopy the comics didn't, and it has a vertical tail instead of two struts holding up a cylindrical nacelle.  I'm going to cut Hasbro's designers a lot of slack here, though, as they're probably the first ones to give any thought as to how G2 Jhiaxus was supposed to transform, and they at least got something in the ball park.  

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Without any landing gear, Jhiaxus more or less just rests on his arms.  This effectively makes all four 5mm ports on his arms unusable in this mode.  The short pegs on the guns and the bump for the hinge on his back also makes the port on his back a poor place for alt mode weapon storage.  This effectively just leaves the ones on his legs, now situated right above his wings, and a newly-revealed port under his nose the only places to store his alt mode weapons, and even then the wings can get in the way a bit.  Officially the instructions suggest plugging the red gun into the nose using the handle, and the peg on the side of the smaller gun to plug it in upside-down over his right wing- the peg handle prevents it from going in right side up on the other side.  The smaller gun can also plug in under the nose via it's handle, or either gun can plug into the nose using the peg on the side, and both guns can fit sideways above the wing if you use the handle peg pegs instead of the pegs on the sides.

Jhiaxus is, at the end of the day, a character whose place in Transformers history may not appeal to fans who only care about the cartoon, and that's fair.  Maybe he's not for you.  But I'd say, regardless of who he is or where he came from, he's a pretty great robot with a not-so-great alt mode, and I'd recommend him if you're interested.  Personally, I'd love to see more Marvel-only characters like Straxus and Emirate Xaaron, get modern toys.

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I also received my G2 Jihaxus and I love his robot mode, it's fantastic and is fairly comic-like accurate versus his alternate cybertronian jet mode. I guess I was never really happy with the other incarnations of the character cause I had always known him as this form versus the others, I read the G2 comics, and enjoyed them for their dark tones and grittiness, and specifically this character for his savagery towards the end of the series. But seeing how I have a fairly decent size collection now of G2 characters on my shelf there wasn't any way I was going to pass up the chance of getting this character so I had to click on the pre-order.  Again though, that jet mode just didn't do it for me, it strays very far from his comic-book styling in either G2 or Regen: One and that sorta makes me sad. 

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Watched Wotafa‘s review of Legacy Wildrider: 

 

To me it feels like this toy was designed by the intern. What is going on with the backpack? I feel like the G1 toy dealt with the front of the care than this toy nearly 40 years later.

I don’t even understand why they engineered in the hinges for the subassemblies the front wheels are on. It is not needed for combiner mode and makes the robot mode even more busy. Seems like a waste of parts.

Maybe I’m salty because I played a lot with my G1 Wildrider and liked the transformation for the car‘s hood.

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On 7/10/2022 at 11:53 AM, Scyla said:

Watched Wotafa‘s review of Legacy Wildrider: 

 

To me it feels like this toy was designed by the intern. What is going on with the backpack? I feel like the G1 toy dealt with the front of the care than this toy nearly 40 years later.

I don’t even understand why they engineered in the hinges for the subassemblies the front wheels are on. It is not needed for combiner mode and makes the robot mode even more busy. Seems like a waste of parts.

Maybe I’m salty because I played a lot with my G1 Wildrider and liked the transformation for the car‘s hood.

Yeah, the splitting hood is a big question mark. It's not G1 accurate, serves no purpose for combined mode, and as you said, just makes it look unnecessarily busy. I intend to keep the hood together on my copy when it arrives. 

For toon accuracy purposes, I understand why they went with the frame design for Menasor; I'm not crazy about that approach, and I hope he's the only combiner where the limb-bots merely snap on rather than forming the limbs themselves. While it mimics the toon look, IMHO it negates the point of their being a combiner if all four limb-bots can be detached with little effect to the gestalt beyond aesthetics.

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I got two Skywarps last week: Legacy Core Class and MP-52SW+ (Or 52+SW?).

Can‘t say anything about MP Skywarp yet since my desk is full of other robots at the moment but Core Class Skywarp is a nifty figure with a novel transformation for the seekers. My enjoyment is severely hampered by the omission of the Null Rays in favor of a combining sword. The other parts come with his wave mates Iguanos and Hot Rod. Sadly he got the grip/hilt so it doesn’t look like anything. Come on Hasbro the figures are now $15 and the material costs would be probably less the 1 cent for his iconic weaponry.

He is not NewAge Seekers but a nice desk toy to fiddle with. 
I love it when a toy company (Hasbro or others) comes up with a new conversion scheme for an already well established character. It is pure toy engineering creativity and something you can only get from transforming mecha (Transformers in particular) 

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