Hikuro Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I scored Pre-Earth Prime today, he's a very cool toy. Pretty much all ball joints that are nice and stiff for good posing. You don't even need instructions to transform him, he's very straightforward. I really like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hasbro didn't screw it up, it's the retailers. The movie line sold like hotcakes and the retailers asked for more movie toys. Hence Hasbro pushed the Animated toys back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha OTS Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hasbro didn't screw it up, it's the retailers. The movie line sold like hotcakes and the retailers asked for more movie toys. Hence Hasbro pushed the Animated toys back. Heh, I'm still buying movie toys, so maybe the retailers have a point. I just picked up Screen Battles "Capture of Bumblebee" and "Desert Attack". After having the legless Bee from the Longarm set, and after having watched the movie again recently, the Bumblebee in this set seems to have more accurate movie colors. Pretty much the black on the normal deluxe is dark gray here, which actually gives a tiny bit more color variation because the black's still there on the car parts. Plus he has an autobot symbol on his head like he does in the movie, and with this set I now have some Sector 7 guys to have stand around Stockade. Scorponok is pretty much, bleh. I mean, he's movie accurate, and the spinning gear gimmick is nifty, but he doesn't do much after that. He doesn't transform, he just gets half-assed legs to stand up. Still better than nothing. I'm a little dissapointed there's no way to attach him to Blackout's back. There's a way to attach him in copter mode, but eh, doesn't do much for me. The soldier figures are pretty nice though, and a nice accessory to give to Landmine, which was part of the reason I picked the set up anyway. I noticed the pegs are pretty regularly stocked now. It's still pretty tough finding the normal movie figures but that should change with the last few waves of premiums. Pretty good way to end the line if you ask me. It was a sometimes frustrating but ultimately fun ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogDog Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Well, originally, the show wasn't supposed to air until the spring. It got moved way up, but the toy line didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) I scored Pre-Earth Prime today, he's a very cool toy. Pretty much all ball joints that are nice and stiff for good posing. You don't even need instructions to transform him, he's very straightforward. I really like it. Where'd you find it, at regular retail or did you buy from eBay? Edited April 15, 2008 by Vermillion21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Well, originally, the show wasn't supposed to air until the spring. It got moved way up, but the toy line didn't. Considering how many of the damn things are turning up on eBay (and even a few in test markets like Cincinnati), I could see why they didn't have the toys ready in December or in January when the show debuted, but there's no way you could get me to believe that Hasbro couldn't have the toys in stores this month if they really wanted them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fit For Natalie Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hasbro doesn't want the toys out now, partly because the first quarter of a year usually means slower sales. That's one reason why they're waiting until mid year to release them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hasbro doesn't want the toys out now, partly because the first quarter of a year usually means slower sales. That's one reason why they're waiting until mid year to release them. Yeah, but they're going to be the first to complain come June when Animated hasn't shown a new episode in a month and everyone's buying Iron Man, Hulk, and Spider-Man toys instead of Transformers. Oh well. Let the kids buy whatever's captivating their ADD attention spans... it'll make it easier for me to get the Transformers I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Considering how many of the damn things are turning up on eBay (and even a few in test markets like Cincinnati), I could see why they didn't have the toys ready in December or in January when the show debuted, but there's no way you could get me to believe that Hasbro couldn't have the toys in stores this month if they really wanted them there. While I think the figures should have been out during the series' premiere, looking at toy shelves recently in stores, there is simply no room for them. The retailers probably asked to push them back, but at the same time, its retailer's under ordering and underestimating movie line sales that led to them asking for more movie toys. I think demand for the movie line caught them with their pants down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogDog Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 (edited) Looks like the first wave of figures might have been bumped up to the first week of May... LINK Edited April 16, 2008 by GogDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Unfortunately only the deluxes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Looks like the first wave of figures might have been bumped up to the first week of May... LINK Which ppl need to pay close attention, this is only in Canada where in some stores the figures are already out. US release is still June. Where'd you find it, at regular retail or did you buy from eBay? Yep, got it for a buck on ebay. But this helped me decide if I wanted the toys or not. I got to say, these are gonna be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 While I think the figures should have been out during the series' premiere, looking at toy shelves recently in stores, there is simply no room for them. The retailers probably asked to push them back, but at the same time, its retailer's under ordering and underestimating movie line sales that led to them asking for more movie toys. I think demand for the movie line caught them with their pants down. Yeah, and the reason there's no room for them is because the shelf is clogged with movie scouts. And hey, maybe that is the retailers' faults. Maybe I am being hasty in blaming Hasbro. Either way, the first season of Animated is over, and the toys are still two months away because the shelves are jammed with movie toys that the majority don't seem to be interested in anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Nobody's interested because the only "movie" toys Hasbro seems to have produced in the last 6 months are: Guy not in the movie #1 Guy from Cybertron, repainted Guy not in the movie #2 Guy not in the movie #1, repaint Hasbro just totally dropped the ball for Christmas. They should have shipped entire cases of nothing but Bumblebee and Prime--would have sold tons. But they didn't, and now most kids just don't care. So instead Hasbro's trying to eke out the last few bucks from collectors who have to have every repaint and remold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogDog Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Nobody's interested because the only "movie" toys Hasbro seems to have produced in the last 6 months are: Guy not in the movie #1 Guy from Cybertron, repainted Guy not in the movie #2 Guy not in the movie #1, repaint Hasbro just totally dropped the ball for Christmas. They should have shipped entire cases of nothing but Bumblebee and Prime--would have sold tons. But they didn't, and now most kids just don't care. So instead Hasbro's trying to eke out the last few bucks from collectors who have to have every repaint and remold. You're exactly right, and I just saw 2 new Cybertron repaints at Wal Mart yesterday, and on TFW205.com, Hasbro just revealed 2 more upcoming Cybertron repaints. Animated has technically just ended its first season, is a week into its second, and the first wave of figures is weeks from shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Animated Blitzwing, full body shot! Never thought this would happen, but he has a way larger undercarriage than Movie Starscream! True its a compromise, and mistransformed, but still, I don't think theres any way getting around it. Swing wings/F-14 influence FTW though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I'll wait for a properly transformed one. Compared to the rest of the line, I can't believe it "really" looks that off from the animation and early design art in jet mode. Especially for being a Voyager. I mean, seriously. G1 did it a lot better. (It helped that the MiG-25 itself is boxy as hell) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoveringCheesecake Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 God, these toys are awful. Just awful. More money in my wallet because of that, though. Woop woop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 God, these toys are awful. Just awful. More money in my wallet because of that, though. Woop woop. With the exception of the blitzwing, I think these new figures are great, really close to the animation with smooth innovative transformations. Blitzwing is the only one I consider a total dud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha OTS Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Animated Blitzwing, full body shot! Never thought this would happen, but he has a way larger undercarriage than Movie Starscream! True its a compromise, and mistransformed, but still, I don't think theres any way getting around it. Swing wings/F-14 influence FTW though. Maybe if the tracks fold upwards toward the wings? Eh, still won't help. Jet mode doesn't look like much, and doesn't look like a proper transform will fix it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 I was wondering how they were gonna pull blitzwing off, seems to be poorly. Ah well maybe tank mode can make up for it..... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindenathus Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 TFA Blitzwing is a Deluxe. You guys have seen the cartoon right? The treads swing back and turn 90 degrees to sit more flush with the body and the rear parts fold some more to be a flatter tail. The pic shows litterally the mid point between the two alt-modes. I dare possibly the ugliest mid point at that. For a deluxe it seems to be pretty ballsy, especially considering how well it sticks to the animated design. I will cetainly be touching it up with a fine tip gundam pen. That beige drowns a lot of nice details out on the mold. And yes I am a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoveringCheesecake Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 With the exception of the blitzwing, I think these new figures are great, really close to the animation with smooth innovative transformations. Blitzwing is the only one I consider a total dud. I hate the animation for Animated so if the toys look like the characters on the show it's a surefire bet that I'll hate the toys. ;p Different strokes for different folks I spose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 On the various forums there's about 50 posts screaming that TFA Blitzwing is a Voyager and always has been, and another 50 screaming just as passionately that he's been downgraded to a deluxe. I'll wait until we get a Wal-Mart or Target price listing. Though if he has been downgraded, that'd both explain everything AND suck. We all know he needed just a little bit more to be awesome. ::edit:: New pics, less suck: http://www.actoys.net/bbs/read.php?tid-260118.html Plus, other known Voyagers for size comparison. Tank mode's definitely mis-TF'd. Does the owner not realize there are big hinges in the wings for a reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha OTS Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 ::edit:: New pics, less suck: http://www.actoys.net/bbs/read.php?tid-260118.html Plus, other known Voyagers for size comparison. Tank mode's definitely mis-TF'd. Does the owner not realize there are big hinges in the wings for a reason? Looks....better, but it's also from angles that don't highlight the height of the undercarriage like the pic above did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Looks....better, but it's also from angles that don't highlight the height of the undercarriage like the pic above did. Still looks very fugly meh. can't help but contrast this new one with the original BlitzWing G1-toy that still r0x to this day! http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery.php...e=0&start=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoveringCheesecake Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Still looks very fugly meh. can't help but contrast this new one with the original BlitzWing G1-toy that still r0x to this day! http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery.php...e=0&start=0 Indeed. I was hoping he would get the Classics 2.0 treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogDog Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Indeed. I was hoping he would get the Classics 2.0 treatment. Not likely. Hasbro has stated that if a character is in Animated, they are not going to do a Classics 2.0 version. Which kinda stinks in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Not likely. Hasbro has stated that if a character is in Animated, they are not going to do a Classics 2.0 version. Which kinda stinks in some cases. Prowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogDog Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Prowl? I dunno, I'm just quoting what was said at BotCon last year. Didn't think about that one though. Although it's hardly the same Prowl. A ninja motorcycle vs a 2nd-in-command police car. Blitzwing is still pretty much the same in concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I thought there was a classics Jazz planned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogDog Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I thought there was a classics Jazz planned? I haven't heard that one. Maybe that plan they had is out the window then. Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha OTS Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Botcon Jazz is probably the classics Jazz you're thinking of. Although he's technically evil, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindenathus Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 (edited) On the various forums there's about 50 posts screaming that TFA Blitzwing is a Voyager and always has been, and another 50 screaming just as passionately that he's been downgraded to a deluxe. I'll wait until we get a Wal-Mart or Target price listing. Though if he has been downgraded, that'd both explain everything AND suck. We all know he needed just a little bit more to be awesome. ::edit:: New pics, less suck: http://www.actoys.net/bbs/read.php?tid-260118.html Plus, other known Voyagers for size comparison. Tank mode's definitely mis-TF'd. Does the owner not realize there are big hinges in the wings for a reason? I too hope he is a Voyager but all the lists from sources more reliable than the fan base have listed as a Deluxe. But I do agree we will see what's up when the time comes. And to give them props to squeeae all that into a deluxe is some pretty fine work. That c'mon folks, he even has the Belt Pouches, what's not to love (except for the obvious treads in jet mode). I completely agree about the wing hinges, it's pretty damned obvious. Here is the design art that made the rounds. By the looks of some of the finer details of the design the initial concept was very likely a Voyager. I'm going to Botcon this next week, I'll pass along the intel as I get it. Edited April 19, 2008 by Chindenathus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fit For Natalie Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 David, if and when you get the Japanese Optimus Prime Battle Mode toy, ya might be interested in this Reprolabels upgrade set to finish off the flame decals (that is, if you're not game in painting them yourself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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