jenius Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I would vote no 0 until the Shin on the slightest hope that it will be better. If mine does one transformation and shows a nice clean stress line I can only imagine how bad things are going to get.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante74 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 if you're going to gamble, get the 0a or the shin, but definitely skip the 0s until the fixed reissue. Wasn't the VF-0S supposed to be re-issued late last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Wasn't the VF-0S supposed to be re-issued late last year? That was the rumor. It might have just been wishful thinking though by sellers who had sold out of the VF-0S after being short-supplied by Yamato. It will be reissued eventually... maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but some day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafunguy Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 hmm? joke? No, no joke. I think he wanted a bigger pic of this super deformed YF-19: You had a picture of this in your avatar, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 No no Dafunguy, he wanted a pic of the broken shoulder so he could show Yamato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafunguy Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Are you sure? Here's what he wrote: eugimon, can you post a larger pic of your avatar? Graham Maybe we should ask Graham what he really wanted. hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 at the time his avatar was the broken shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Are you sure? Here's what he wrote: eugimon, can you post a larger pic of your avatar? Graham Maybe we should ask Graham what he really wanted. hahaha. but the thread is about the breaking shoulders, and graham wanted pictures of busted shoulders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I love that there is a page of discussion on this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I love that you commented on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I loce that u commented on my comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Ace Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 There's a lot of love (or at least "loce") here tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 There's a lot of love (or at least "loce") here tonight. I can almost hear lion king in the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 thats what i get for posting quickly at work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I hate myself for wanting an 0S so bad right now. I REALLY want one....but I so don't want to waste $120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I hate myself for wanting an 0S so bad right now. I REALLY want one....but I so don't want to waste $120 don't hate yourself. just get one when the 2nd release comes out and they fix all the bloody mistakes. That's what I'll be doing... then I'll own 3 of them, well, 1... and 2 big piles of spare parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 don't hate yourself. just get one when the 2nd release comes out and they fix all the bloody mistakes. That's what I'll be doing... then I'll own 3 of them, well, 1... and 2 big piles of spare parts. Patience is not one of my virtues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Ok, today i took apart all of my zeros. of the 4 i own, i have 1 0S and 1 0A with cracks through the shoulders. ive loosened all the screws and coated al of the joints with a glue to help seal it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Ok, today i took apart all of my zeros. of the 4 i own, i have 1 0S and 1 0A with cracks through the shoulders. ive loosened all the screws and coated al of the joints with a glue to help seal it. nice, good luck with the shoulders man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Did I ever post a pic to my little shoulder issue? First transformation I got this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 ouch. sorry you had to join the busted VF-0 club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 u know as I was transforming these back to fighter i had a thought - do u think a part of the problem is the excess pressure u place on the shoulder when ransforming? u push down to lock it in in fighter, and then u have to pull it out of the sicket for the valk modes. must put a strain on the shoulder joints... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Yeah, I had a similar thought when I was trying to be ultra delicate with my first transformation. I do think there's a chance that pulling the shoulders out and shoving them back in is aggravating the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 u know as I was transforming these back to fighter i had a thought - do u think a part of the problem is the excess pressure u place on the shoulder when ransforming? u push down to lock it in in fighter, and then u have to pull it out of the sicket for the valk modes. must put a strain on the shoulder joints... yeah, I think this is a big part of it. The other part of it is when you're posing the arm and you draw the arm across the shoulder or pull it back. If you take a look at the joint, the edge of the shoulder pieces braces against peg of the ball joint when you're moving the shoulder laterally. the ball then pushes against the wall of the cup causing it to crack or just fail completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante74 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 If Yamato does the Reactive Armor there's gonna lots of people that will have trouble attaching the armor to their busted shoulders. Maybe they could include replacement shoulder parts in the package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 If Yamato does the Reactive Armor there's gonna lots of people that will have trouble attaching the armor to their busted shoulders. Maybe they could include replacement shoulder parts in the package. heh... Sorry we sold you a busted POS, here' spend 60 more dollars and we'll fix our mistake dummy me, I'd probably do it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyp Durron Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) I transformed my 0S once and hotlued it into fighter mode where it will stay, so I am not gonna bother checking mine. I am in for the group order on the Shin VF-0A, and if it turns out to be a piece of poo, I won't be buying anymore...except for any re-paints of the YF-19, I love mine. *Edit* testing: poo fart motherfarter..gotta love the forum censor, lol. -Kyp Edited January 21, 2007 by Kyp Durron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi-elephant Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I do not have a VF-0A but do own one VF-0S valk which I have only transformed a couple of times. Out of curiosity, I performed a quick inspection on the problem area (shoulders), I am so disappointed to find out a white stress mark on the left shoulder . The right shoulder is fine though. Glad I didn't buy VF-0A and I am having 2nd thought of buying the Ghost-shin combo which will be released in Spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promethuem5 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Any more news on how the replacement stronger shoulders are coming from NMB4M? With all the reports of breakage, I'm getting mcuh more concerned about the second shoulder I got than I was before.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Any more news on how the replacement stronger shoulders are coming from NMB4M? With all the reports of breakage, I'm getting mcuh more concerned about the second shoulder I got than I was before.... I'm testing the strength of the resin. It seems to be holding fine, so far. Only time will tell. But what worries me is getting this grey color right. It's a special blend. I'm still working on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm testing the strength of the resin. It seems to be holding fine, so far. Only time will tell. But what worries me is getting this grey color right. It's a special blend. I'm still working on it. woot, thanks for the update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm testing the strength of the resin. It seems to be holding fine, so far. Only time will tell. But what worries me is getting this grey color right. It's a special blend. I'm still working on it. Thanks for the update nb4m! We eagerly await a fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Here's a summery of what we know so far regarding the problems with the VF-0 arms. Please let me know if anything I've written is incorrect or something is missing. 1) Stress marks and cracks are appearing on the inner (front & rear) shoulder sections. 2) Stess marks and cracks are also appearing on the lower part of the bicep swivel joint. 3) The problem seems more prevalent on the VF-0A, but has also occured on the VF-0S. 4) Some toys have stress marks and cracks right out of the box. 5) One theory put forward by some Macrossworld members is that the seam line on the shoulder ball joint is contributing to probelm with the shoulders, as it may extert exess pressure on the shoulder parts when the shoulder is moved. 6) Another thory is that the top screw on the back of the shoulder joint is too tight and causes the plastic to crack. 7) As a preventive measure, the seam line on the shoulder ball joint should be filed down. Also, the two silver color screws located on the rear of the inner shoulder, especially the top screw should be loosened slightly (about a half turn?) to decrease pressure. 9) Some members have theorised theat the rubber O-ring o the bicep swivel joint may be too thick, causing the joint to crack. 10) As a preventive measure, the bicep screw should be looseend slightly and/or the rubber O-ring removed. 11) Initial coments from Yamato are that these problems have not been reported in Japan yet and also the problem may be caused by an adverse chemical reaction between the rubbber and ABS, which weakens the ABS. Anything else? Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I'm testing the strength of the resin. It seems to be holding fine, so far. Only time will tell. But what worries me is getting this grey color right. It's a special blend. I'm still working on it. Are you making the shoulders and also the elbow swivel joint? It is both these sections that have problems. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 ive finally checked my vf-0s' shoulders and i found a small white stress mark too. 11) Initial coments from Yamato are that these problems have not been reported in Japan yet and also the problem may be caused by an adverse chemical reaction between the rubbber and ABS, which weakens the ABS. Anything else? Graham well i bought my 0s in japan so maybe the japanese arent checking theirs....hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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