myk Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 So, do we have like 2 lists going for both the 0A and the S? Seems to me like they're all affected... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfPuppets Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 So, do we have like 2 lists going for both the 0A and the S? Seems to me like they're all affected... The list counts both broken 0A and 0S. I'm on the list and mine's a 0S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 okay, I checked all of my VF-0's this morning and both of my VF-0s have busted shoulders. both right shoulder have a stress crack and both left shoulders are completely blown out. 1. 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I have diagnosed this as a form of VF-Osteoperosis - Dr. EXO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I hope Yamato didn't use the same material in their YF-19 joints. Or we're gonna be looking at the next Plague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kung flu Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I'm glad i've never transformed my VF 0s at all, i was just lazy so i left it as it was when it came out the box. Looks like being lazy has it's advantages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I hope Yamato didn't use the same material in their YF-19 joints. Or we're gonna be looking at the next Plague. I don't think the yf-19 uses the same material. I think the VF-0 uses the same plastic as the garland's shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante74 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 okay, I checked all of my VF-0's this morning and both of my VF-0s have busted shoulders. both right shoulder have a stress crack and both left shoulders are completely blown out. Allright that's it, I'm ckecking my VF-0S and A first thing tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Is it out of place that Yamato should provide free replacment parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I'm glad i've never transformed my VF 0s at all, i was just lazy so i left it as it was when it came out the box. Looks like being lazy has it's advantages Not so fast... how do you know these weren't like this at purchase? This looks like it might be the kind of thing caused by tension related to the screw... your shoulder could be disentegrating in the box! I really meant to transform my VF-0S for the first time last night to check... hopefully I'll get around to it today. What's going on over at Yamato??? I'm supposed to save this kind of concern for my far cheaper Toynami products! First the Garland, now the Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Is it out of place that Yamato should provide free replacment parts? I think they should as well. they should send us replacements made out of a plastic that can handle the stress. Actually, I would rather them just replace the VF-0s unit all together considering how many problems they have: 1. shattering shoulders 2. floppy back packs 3. feet that won't lock in battroid 4. gun pods that don't fit the arm pegs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Not so fast... how do you know these weren't like this at purchase? This looks like it might be the kind of thing caused by tension related to the screw... your shoulder could be disentegrating in the box! I really meant to transform my VF-0S for the first time last night to check... hopefully I'll get around to it today. What's going on over at Yamato??? I'm supposed to save this kind of concern for my far cheaper Toynami products! First the Garland, now the Zero this is a good point. the VF-0 with the worst shoulder damage was transformed the least. Maybe three or four transformations total. And yet there's a giant chunk just plain'ol missing from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kung flu Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Not so fast... how do you know these weren't like this at purchase? This looks like it might be the kind of thing caused by tension related to the screw... your shoulder could be disentegrating in the box! I really meant to transform my VF-0S for the first time last night to check... hopefully I'll get around to it today. What's going on over at Yamato??? I'm supposed to save this kind of concern for my far cheaper Toynami products! First the Garland, now the Zero you've got a point, but i'm still too lazy to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 you've got a point, but i'm still too lazy to check. Oh come on. Don't you want to see the damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_e Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I REALLY want a VF-0. I was one click away from ordering one yesterday, but I keep hesitating due to all of these reports of broken shoulders, loose joints, etc. I really really hope Yamato fixes these issues in time for the Shin/Ghost bundle. I guess I'll just have to wait until May for my VF-0. I know we're not in Yamato's intended market of Japan, but I really think they should have some kind of program in place to fix these issues or provide replacement parts. I feel bad for all of you that have broken VF-0 shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kung flu Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 (edited) Oh come on. Don't you want to see the damage? No i don't, cause then it would bug me all day. If i don't see it, then theres no damge to see Edited January 14, 2007 by kung flu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do not disturb Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I think they should as well. they should send us replacements made out of a plastic that can handle the stress. Actually, I would rather them just replace the VF-0s unit all together considering how many problems they have: 1. shattering shoulders 2. floppy back packs 3. feet that won't lock in battroid 4. gun pods that don't fit the arm pegs. i forgot how many problems the VF-0S had, i'm so glad i skipped out on that one. i really want it but as is, i'd rather not buy a lemon just to fill the void in my collection. if these problems were a QC issue, then its not really on yamato shoulders to provide replacement parts, i mean stuff happens time to time, but seeing as these recent problems are actually DESIGN FLAWS and/or use of POOR QUALITY PLASTICS, they really should do something about it. as is, i've pretty much swore off yamato for the moment. the VF-0S/A and recent release of the subpar YF-19 has left a bad taste in my mouth. yeah its nice that they're making the toys i love, but i shouldn't have to take it in the ass just because they're the only game in town. i mean why should i make the exception for yamato, its not like they give a rat ass about me, actually any of us for that matter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 just to follow up on my "yamato should replace the VF-0s" comment, they're doing it for the garland which had the same major problem (shattering shoulders) but the Vf-0s has far more design related issues, design issues which have been resolved in the 0a release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 for those thinking of buying a zero; i have 4, and have owned5. ive had one major problem, and one with a minor shoulder crack. I have 3 that are in good shape with no signs of wear or stress. so its not like EVERY zero is going to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 design issues which have been resolved in the 0a release. Aren't half the shoulder complaints coming from 0A owners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Aren't half the shoulder complaints coming from 0A owners? that's why I said design issues. The cracking shoulders is a materials/yamato being cheap issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedpr1nce Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Aren't half the shoulder complaints coming from 0A owners? i doubt it's half of the 0A owners. more like all of the 1/60 zero owners were they to inspect theirs. i just checked both my 0S that are on display today and all shoulders including lefts and rights have white stress marks on them. mind you i don't even play with these and i've only transformed them from fighter to battroid mode for display. i have NOT moved the shoulders till today. it's been like that since the day i've bought them... yet, still there are stress marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Can the folks that have busted VF-0's get new user text? I'm not really a Macross II survivor anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante74 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Well, I just checked my VF-0A. Both shoulders are fine but I'm never transforming her again. Didn't check my 0S. I would need to transform it out of fightermode to see if everthing was allright and I might break it in the process. When I get the Shin 0A/ booster set I plan on displaying the 0S in Gerwalk so I'll check it then. Anyone else think that maybe the shoulderjoints snap when you take off the armor to see if it's okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 well, since I'm boycotting the shin/booster pack, I don't know. But I hope that NB4M's replacement shoulder/biceps come out before then. Or maybe yamato will resolve the issue before it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Can POM be molded in specific colors? Perhaps Yamato should cast the shoulders in dark grey POM, since its stronger than ABS, it could be better and handle the tension of the springs. Besides I'm not sure customizers would want to paint the shoulders anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafunguy Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 (edited) I checked mine and the right shoulder does have a stress mark on it. So I loosen the screws and now it's floppier that ever. The left shoulder in fine. My theory is they might have different tighting specifications for each shoulder. Since the right shoulder holds the gunpod, it has tighter specs. haha. The thing that scares me the most about this issue is this comment: Q: Will Yamato redesign the shoulder of the VF-0 toy after so many people have reported it breaking. A: Actually, we have not heard this problem from Japanese customer, but the factory is looking into it. THEY ARE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM. That doesn't look good for the Shin / ghost package. I think the Japanese customers are not complainers (they just fix it themselves and call it good)! Edited January 15, 2007 by dafunguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 More pics guys if possible. The more pics we can show Yamato, the more they are likely to do something. eugimon, can you post a larger opic of your avatar? Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 THEY ARE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM. That doesn't look good for the Shin / ghost package. If nothing I think this finally settles the "Does Yamato read our forums" question. The answer? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 More pics guys if possible. The more pics we can show Yamato, the more they are likely to do something. eugimon, can you post a larger opic of your avatar? Graham I posted 4 pics of my 2 busted VF-0s on page 6 graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 If nothing I think this finally settles the "Does Yamato read our forums" question. The answer? No. They might actually be reading all our posts, but you know that ignorance is sometimes bliss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafunguy Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I posted 4 pics of my 2 busted VF-0s on page 6 graham I pretty sure Graham wanted a bigger picture of your super deformed YF-19 that you had use on your avatar ID pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I pretty sure Graham wanted a bigger picture of your super deformed YF-19 that you had use on your avatar ID pic. hmm? joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Would all you guys rousingly endorsed NOT getting a VF-0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 if you're going to gamble, get the 0a or the shin, but definitely skip the 0s until the fixed reissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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