jwinges Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 I just watched the 1st ep of the original bubblegum crisis. I must say that it is by far one of the cheesiest anime I've ever seen. Thank god I rented it before buying the whole box set. It was all I could do just to make it through it. My wife gave up and just left the room rather than watch this poorly dubbed old school trash. Somebody please tell me if I dare watch ep 2&3. I really want to like this since I liked 2040. But at the moment I just don't see it happening. Do I dare watch anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat S Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Hahahahaha... BGC OAV is awesome. The cheesiness (I'm assuming you mean the music) is one of the best parts. You probably won't like the rest though they do get steadily better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 My wife gave up and just left the room rather than watch this poorly dubbed old school trash Wait a minute, did you watch it dubbed? If so, then there's you're problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 I pretend the dubbed audio track doesn't exist in my set. Konya Wa Hurricane in English is awful. The whole dubbed version is awful. In any case, the series does get better with the later episodes, and the mecha designs are still some of my favorites. Different strokes for different folks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myriad Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 (edited) I hope they dump that dub and make a decent one for the remastered version. I think it was a big mistake redoing the music for the dub. I like 2032 but don't care for 2040. Edited September 4, 2004 by Myriad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Coffee Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 re-watch subbed now.nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_vandermeer Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Rewatch it with the sub instead, the dub of BGC is one of the worst in the history of anime. You're gonna have to like 80's music to appreciate the music. Otherwise I don't see how else it might be cheesy, I mean, it's... anime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Like everyone else said, Bubblegum Crisis is best experienced subbed. Even though it's not as flashy as 2040, the original series has much better music and more likeable characters. And another thing: wait for AnimEigo's remastered DVDs. The M2K versions are crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gui Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Animeigo's release is planned for september, isn't it? Personnally, I love BGC: it's one of my all-time favorites but yes, it can be considered as cheesy sometimes... On the other hand, mechanical designs and battle scenes are awesome most of the time, scenarios/themes become very good from Moonlight Rambler (episode5 if memory serves...) and art is always better and better. If you can rent the rest of the OAV, go for it Otherwise, if you're interested into the BGC universe, you may want to give a try to the AD Police OAV (NOT the TV serie available from ADV...): sure you'll not find it cheesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kin Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 (edited) I don't like bubblegum crisis... it's very unlogical. And ofcourse the bike.... But the music is the only little positive side of it./ A.D. police is much more "mature" to watch.. and a better story too. Edited September 4, 2004 by Kin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwinges Posted September 4, 2004 Author Share Posted September 4, 2004 I'll try watching the sub version. I like the mecha designs (although they are kinda chunky monkey's compared to the 2040 suits. The motoslaves are cool. But I hate the music and the characters look awful compared to 2040. What's with the hair color style and change for almost everyone. Nea Nea looks retarted! I was really wondering what was going on while I watched this...usually the macrossworlder's suggestions are pretty much spot on. I'll give it another try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynx7725 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 (edited) You gotta be kidding. Konya wa Hurricane is still one of my favourite rock songs, and Mad Machine is a personal favourite too. Try picking up the Japanese mp3s for them, not the english versions (if that's what you heard). As for the chara designs, got to remember that these are done in the 80s, so some of the designs follow what is fashionable then. EDIT: hehehe. Post 333 -> halfway to a devil. Edited September 4, 2004 by Lynx7725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-ZeroOne Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Part of the problem might be Bubblegum Crisis and in its place in anime fan history. In the UK, for example, where I've always had the impression that BGC is pretty highly regarded, at one point it was just about the only example of properly subbed anime around - not just a subbed anime, the subbed anime. For quite some time, it set the benchmark for what a subbed anime should be like, at least for me personally. Try it with the subtitles, and the original Japanese songs. By most accounts, the dub is pretty awful. And it is quite old; its not going to look as impressive now as it did back in the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Lets burn him, and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 I myself am refusing to rewatch it until the new set comes out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 (edited) I'll try watching the sub version. I like the mecha designs (although they are kinda chunky monkey's compared to the 2040 suits. The motoslaves are cool. But I hate the music and the characters look awful compared to 2040. What's with the hair color style and change for almost everyone. Nea Nea looks retarted! Kenichi Sonada's character designs look awful compared to the generic El Hazard-ripoff designs used in 2040? I'm pretty surprised at that statement. Edited September 4, 2004 by yellowlightman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnollman Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Kenichi Sonada's character designs look awful compared to the generic El Hazard-ripoff designs used in 2040? I'm pretty surprised at that statement. Gotta agree with that. Sonoda's characters are much better.... Like everyone else said, though, the problem is the dub. BGC has the worst dub I've ever heard.... If you watch the sub, and still don't like it, well.... We'll have the stake and pyre ready for you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kin Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I remember my brother rented a special version of some kind of bubblegum crisis "real life" concert with real people singing... man that was embarrasing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I remember my brother rented a special version of some kind of bubblegum crisis "real life" concert with real people singing... man that was embarrasing! Hurricane Live 2032 or 2033. Those were DEFINATELY cheesy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kin Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I remember my brother rented a special version of some kind of bubblegum crisis "real life" concert with real people singing... man that was embarrasing! Â Hurricane Live 2032 or 2033. Those were DEFINATELY cheesy. (off topic) Those were PRE- IDOLS show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELEINEN Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 What's with the hair color style and change for almost everyone. Nea Nea looks retarted! You do realize the change was made in the 2040 series. 2032 is the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwinges Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 Yeah I realize the change was made from 2032 but it looked retarded as pink. I've got nothing against the series...just trying to stir things up around here. I like the franchise and will definitely be buying the new toys. Still going to have to try watching the sub instead of the dub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Yeah I realize the change was made from 2032 but it looked retarded as pink. I've got nothing against the series...just trying to stir things up around here. I like the franchise and will definitely be buying the new toys. Still going to have to try watching the sub instead of the dub. What, Max's hair can be blue, Milia's green, But Nene's can't be pink? As for the designs, Priss is vastly superior in her 2032 incarnation, end of story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kin Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Sometimes I've wondered if this anime is actually aimed for female viewers. Sometimes I get the feeling it's going to be too fenimine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Sometimes I've wondered if this anime is actually aimed for female viewers. Sometimes I get the feeling it's going to be too fenimine.. Worry not, there's plenty of action & fanservice enough for any guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Coffee Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 You know, someday when i have a capture card,im going to encode the konya wa hurricane pv off the BGC vol1 tape. its spectacular 80's cheezynees. too bad it wasnt on the hurricane live disks for laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Sometimes I've wondered if this anime is actually aimed for female viewers. Sometimes I get the feeling it's going to be too fenimine.. The female cast is definately there for the amusement of male viewers, not female ones. Would you rather have a bunch of dudes hopping around in skin tight hardsuits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELEINEN Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Sometimes I've wondered if this anime is actually aimed for female viewers. Sometimes I get the feeling it's going to be too fenimine.. The female cast is definately there for the amusement of male viewers, not female ones. Would you rather have a bunch of dudes hopping around in skin tight hardsuits? Or hard suits with boots shaped so you walk on your toes. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I think to be fair, almost any oldskool cyberpunk anime with dubs were badly done with gratious amounts of cursing thrown in for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKlown Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Nene's a redhead in 2032, not pink... Who the heck would want a ditzy blonde Sailor Moon wanabe over a cute redhead, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Part of the problem might be Bubblegum Crisis and in its place in anime fan history. In the UK, for example, where I've always had the impression that BGC is pretty highly regarded, at one point it was just about the only example of properly subbed anime around - not just a subbed anime, the subbed anime. For quite some time, it set the benchmark for what a subbed anime should be like, at least for me personally.Try it with the subtitles, and the original Japanese songs. By most accounts, the dub is pretty awful. And it is quite old; its not going to look as impressive now as it did back in the day... I remember at that time Animeigo were releasing it, along with Urusei Yatsura. Urusei Yatsura was also subbed, remember. Those tapes were awful hard to find, though... Anyway, I never cared for the little I've seen of either series (both the original and '40), and anyway in my view phrases like "You get to burning" just sound silly. But if I had to pick one, it would be the original, no contest. Sonoda all the way, baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataru Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 (edited) "You get to burning" is from Nadesico. Although BGC has its own share of funky English, like "soldier, fighting to kill the wrong" and "you got a body heat tonight" Edited September 5, 2004 by Ataru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Shame on those Japanese singers for not having exquisitely perfectly english! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Yeah I realize the change was made from 2032 but it looked retarded as pink. I've got nothing against the series...just trying to stir things up around here. I like the franchise and will definitely be buying the new toys. Still going to have to try watching the sub instead of the dub. Old-school 80's character design and style. I saw a bit of 2040, it didn't do much for me. Give me the original BGC, Sonoda character design, 80's music, cheese and all! Sonoda designs worked better than that El-Hazard-ish look the 2040 cast had. Dubs suck. But then again that's just my opinion. No wait, they suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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