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I'd honestly like to see them try. It would be a technical marvel, starting with crazy instructions to teach the customer to detach the old waist/lower fuselage, because I don't see fat legs fitting without dropping the hip pivot to stay centered with their thickness. TBF, the leg packs might already work, with some ugly bracing using the armor pack's plugs to hang the pack up against the wing, or they invent an external layer of armor as the brace. Wait, they could just make the original thick legs as the armor, and that armor could have the correct connection to the leg packs. It might actually work. Free idea for bandai. Just come preassembled with armor in the shape of the anime accurate legs, and pretend the intake/thigh gap from wearing armor isn't there, or cover it with extended armor. Nobody will know the 171's legs are inside 😁. I'm sure bandai won't have the balls to do it, but maybe someone with a 3D printer can figure it out The real magic is actually with the backpack cannons that come with the pack, because the cockroach shell has no connection slots and can't be latched on with hooks around the edges because they have to leave clearance for the arms and wings on all sides. Those will need double sided tape, or tossing out and replacing the top half of the plane.

I don't wanna check all the eps, but I'lll take your word for it. I'm assuming those didn't transform into battroid, which makes it easy for them to not care about proportions in CG. Dropping legs for gerwalk that might have happened in Delta did is not an issue. I've caught satellite straight up clipping, morphing, and camera blocking during transformation in the recent red ranger isekai anime with the CG megazord. It goes to show that CG doesn't mean much for correct proportions with full transformationa and articulation when it's still in animation. It's like how there's a VF-22 in delta, but everyone knows that thing can't transform in CG with the canonical designs. If it did, it would morph just as much as it was hand drawn. I'm even requested a check on the in game models in another thread. Even the games have to cheat and clip the shoulders inside the belly plate and make invisible the bits sticking out, and then have the whole assembly detached and fly out magically to reach the intake sockets while the yellow bits just disappear. CG doesn't mean it's a correct and realistically working depiction. What's at hand here is not a matter of how it's depicted in animation. It's that Kawamori or some supplementary magazine or some other product blurb invented some lore and set the stage for Bandai to be lazy here.

OH OH OH, I know what Bandai is going to do... they'll make correct thick leg fast pack add-ons available through PBJP! LOL... 🤣🙄

ahh okay my mistake for reading too far in then, lol. Okay if its just screws and swaps that should be fine.👍

I think that fear is a stretch too far. People have already put the super parts on their's just fine. They found the issue from comparing it to the back side and noticing that it has the correct front face on the wrong side. Busting out the wrong molds that should have been stored with their accompanying production run, while also already producing the correct parts is very whack. So far everyone has matched pairs, too. So it seems much less scary an issue than it initially looked. All it comes down to is whether there is a high chance of damage for the reassembly operation.

For all they get transformed, I wound up picking up a few of the 1/72 kits. Can leave the posable ones in battroid, and display the fighters in flight without any worries about the legs dropping off. I'll definitely spring for a Millia if they make it, but we'll see how the first one sells. If it starts getting dumped into the bargain bin, I'll probably grab one on amazon in case it just turns into a one-and-done.

They were definitely classics and got a bit less attention than other kits

I think I'll nab one just because it's a 17 and I love my 17 / 171's, just sad it's a franken valk between the two instead of a completely new toy. I still want the CF Brown 171's from delta

Well, that begs the question... what metric (if any) is FX using to assess the show's "success"? Are they looking at total minutes watched, average viewership, the trendline for average viewership episode-to-episode, social media engagement, review aggregator score, etc. Have they set realistic and achievable targets for whatever metrics they're using? Is the budget and/or licensing going to be caught up in the rampdown of Hulu as it is slowly absorbed into the Disney+ service? If Jimmy cracks corn and nobody cares, why does he keep doing it? These questions are examples of how it's much harder to judge if a streaming original series is a success or not since it's not dependent on publicly-accessible performance records like the Nielsen ratings. FX is obviously going to accentuate the positive for the press because the show wasn't a complete disaster, but it's anyone's guess if they'll actually renew the series for a second season and Noah Hawley could very easily end up with (ironically) egg all over his face having crafted one of the worst and most obnoxious cliffhangers in television history only to not get renewed.

As fun as it is to paint them as the villain for all sorts of reasons, I think it just all comes down to them doing everything in their power to min-max their profit margins. If they can make a quick-turn reboxing of the 171 with minimal new parts molding, and pass it off as the companion to their Fire Valk? You bet they're going to do everything they can to minimize the effort and expense involved. I frankly would have rather had straight repaints of the 171, but it is what it is, and if Bandai can be trusted to do one thing, it's that they'll never backtrack or admit their mistakes or bad decisions, no matter how obvious or stupid.

It could possibly be that the engineers are younger and appreciate an anorexic aesthetic versus or desire of a THICC Valkyrie. Just a thought.

https://twitter.com/Mrk_arcadia/status/1971717379974746409 web-translated:

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Me thinks Bandai is quite capable of such. Unfortunately, they're just actively and deliberately not willing to do so.

Them white landing-gears are just extra leftovers from the HMR Fire-Valk.. Seems to be totally unaltered. Not painting them proper grey or so while jacking up the HMR VF-19P's msrp as TWE is just the usual and regular Bandai penny-pinching nickel-n-dime tactics...

If Bandai was capable of makes the legs thicker on the YF-21. Why wouldn’t they have just reengineered the legs on VF-17? I get the whole “save money” mantra but this is pure laziness. When have we not purchased high end items? This is Macross, buying expensive toys and related items is all we do. Saving money is not an option. Put out something great…we will buy it without a second thought. C’mon Bandai, you can do a WHOLE LOT BETTER.

Valid points. If Bandai insisted on reusing the 171, and I'm sure we discussed this 15 years ago when the 171 debuted, they should at least get all the different details of the 17 right. Had they started with the 1/65, we could have had one where the gun actually tucked into the leg! Unfortunately, I don't think the 17 has a huge following so half-hearted was as much as Bandai was willing to invest.

I haven't looked up the 171 lore so i don't have a dispute with you there, but comparing the CG valks found in Frontier/Delta vs. M7, I'm going to call B.S. on this specific point. the VF-1 in Frontier and Delta that is done in CG looks exactly the same vs. M7, specially, the legs of the valk between Frontier, Delta and M7 are drawn identically. If that's the case in point I would think the vf-1 would be more chonky or see a difference between M7 and the later CG models. for reference: M7 Ep. 14 MacF Ep.1 Delta Ep.3

Those kits are interesting. I wasn't aware that those were available in that scale. I'm very tunnel vision about 1/72 these days.

What this release feels like.

I’m pretty sure there will be a second season more due to viewership than positive or negative feedback. I think it will end up like how all the hate watching got rings of power renewed. People really hated the show, but even though it wasn’t the best as far as viewership, that still was enough for them to keep it going despite the hate. I’m not saying they should try for another open ending, because I don’t think season two will have as many people watching

The VF-1 often had them gray, but not that dark

Not a bad price for fife of those kits. Pretty cool find

hah, didn't think it was coming out that quickly, but okay. I guess we'll probably watch it in theater if it's possible on christmas....we kind of do that as a tradition in my family while the christmas dinner is cooking.

I just double checked news outlets and pop culture related sites, there's still no announcement by FX if they'll produce a 2nd season. I'd say this is really up in the air. This series was more divisive than Romulus was. Hell I'd say the majority of us here on this thread have not necessarily a distain but very much a cringe for this series as it kept going....at first showing some promise then quickly dropping down to a frustrated level of dislike for it. The story just couldn't gain any decent pacing shifting to many different plot points that dealt more with weak drama and character development to possibly save money over visual effects and horror. If this series got a season 2, I would be some what surprised due to this being a Hulu tied in series, and that being discontinued here shortly leaving FX's future I think a lil uncertain.