Vespaeda Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Mostly OT, but concerning ewilen's comments on the cadeuces being adopted by formalized medicine, as opposed to Aesculapius' single-snaked staff, I'm tempted to believe the choice was one of distancing the discipline from Judeo-Christian record of Mose' staff totem at Mt. Horeb. In order to ward off/remedy the pestilence that broke out amongst the Israelite camp for their sinful behavior, Moses fashioned a bronze serpent, depicted as nailed or slung over a tree branch. It represented the "proto"-crucifixion of the serpent/Satan & fallen nature's influence in man on the staff(Law of God). Archaeologically, the Aramaic/Mesopotamian origins of this symbol for the abundant life vs. 'poison of nature'/healing conflict, predates Greek & Egyptian culture. However, as current separation of church/state issues in the U.S. roil & France's big stink over religious cultural clothing in their public schools festers, its all too apparent many cultures find(and have always found) things Judeo-Christian a thorn in the side. Not to get religious/political. Just bolstering how old the symbology of the serpent/winged serpent/cross/staff/women/circle-of-life-thingy is in human lore. Vesp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Okay just in case: SPOILER (for those who haven't watched Episode 3 yet) Did anyone notice when Nora was trying to take down Shin and Deadgar, that when he started trying to shoot her down with his lasers, he got in like three or four hits that did absolutely NOTHING? I checked out that scene frame by frame, and damn, it looks like the lasers hit and just dispersed over the surface of the SV-51. Is this an effect from that armor thingy that seems to be incorporated into the variable fighters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Okay just in case: SPOILER (for those who haven't watched Episode 3 yet) Did anyone notice when Nora was trying to take down Shin and Deadgar, that when he started trying to shoot her down with his lasers, he got in like three or four hits that did absolutely NOTHING? I checked out that scene frame by frame, and damn, it looks like the lasers hit and just dispersed over the surface of the SV-51. Is this an effect from that armor thingy that seems to be incorporated into the variable fighters? I think we are supposed to think that the armor is tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Göönk Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Is it power of dark side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Kraimer Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 mabey it's advanced shielding technology... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final Vegeta Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Energy weapons are over-rated. http://www.journal.forces.gc.ca/engraph/Vo...n1-p41-46_e.pdf The resulting energy applied to the target is 35,800 MJ/m^2 for the current US 120 mm DU penetrator in the M829A2 round. This beats the crap out of RX-78's beam rifle Btw, VF-0 lasers are chemical? It must be so, without a thermonuclear reactor. Still, I've heard there are 100 MW chemical lasers, and yet you need more than a second to shot down a plane (which is obviously lightly armored), but just because you blow the fuel tanks. Maybe the VF-1 has even more powerful lasers. Anyway, Shin was a clever boy and aimed directly at Nora. As for graphical lack of damage, maybe they thought it was just useless modelling it. FV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Another thing about the head lasers--their barrels appear to be rifled for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Another thing about the head lasers--their barrels appear to be rifled for some reason. That mistake is in most anime... lame. Kinda like how people can always dodge an incoming laser blast that they see flying at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Another thing about the head lasers--their barrels appear to be rifled for some reason. Don't ya know, it's to impart more spin to the beam for greater accuracy, increased penetration and whatnot Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 I just watched Episode 3, and I must say, it lost me completely. Not as in story wise, I mean as in it lost my attention. I liked Macross alot better without the mystical mumbo jumbo. You can say that again, Duke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 I just noticed something yesterday. When D.D. breaks into the Asuka II, Roy appears in the Armored VF-0S and it is clearly shown up to the point that Roy launches the missiles that the VF-0S is not carrying a gunpod. However, a few seconds later after Roy launches the missiles at D.D. and D.D. evades and leads the missiles back towards Roy, we see Roy using both the VF-0S's head lasers and a gunpod to shoot down the approaching missiles. And then after the VF-0S's Reactive armor gets trashed, we see Roy's naked battroid pick up the gunpod from the floor. So my question is, where did the gunpod come from? Is this just an animation error? Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 u remember those "arm shields"? i think it was stored either on one of those or on the backpack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Maybe the gunpod was stowed on the back of the GBP armor when he pushed DD out of the hangar bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 I don't think it was on the arm shields, they are not that big that a gunpod would be completely hidden behind them. I'll have to rewatch the scene again, but I also don't believe the gunpod was on the back. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 It's just a continuity error, very common in hollywood movies and anime. IIRC, the first episode had more than its share of continuity errors. Besides, didn't Kawamori say that he isn't going to let continuity get in his way? We're seeing it in action right here! OFF> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Okay just in case: SPOILER (for those who haven't watched Episode 3 yet) Did anyone notice when Nora was trying to take down Shin and Deadgar, that when he started trying to shoot her down with his lasers, he got in like three or four hits that did absolutely NOTHING? I checked out that scene frame by frame, and damn, it looks like the lasers hit and just dispersed over the surface of the SV-51. Is this an effect from that armor thingy that seems to be incorporated into the variable fighters? anti-laser coating, the VF-1 has it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis! Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Okay just in case: SPOILER (for those who haven't watched Episode 3 yet) Did anyone notice when Nora was trying to take down Shin and Deadgar, that when he started trying to shoot her down with his lasers, he got in like three or four hits that did absolutely NOTHING? I checked out that scene frame by frame, and damn, it looks like the lasers hit and just dispersed over the surface of the SV-51. Is this an effect from that armor thingy that seems to be incorporated into the variable fighters? anti-laser coating, the VF-1 has it Wow , didn´t know that cool Anyway , it seems stupid to equip VFs with laser weaponary when you also have anti-laser coated armor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReaper Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Well, thats why the laser isn't anti-valk weaponry, it is just there to shoot down missiles and to cut open doors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Whoever said a Regult had anti-laser coating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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