Whats Lying on your Workbench MK IV

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

Several of the HMR releases definitely had missiles painted red that way.  I believe all of the Hikaru VF-1J and CF VF-1A versions had the fins and tips painted red.

The older ones are all white for the most part, but checking the vermilion platoon versions and those have red back there.

intro for the show only has white, but in a couple scenes it shows red and others I’ve seen are white by the fins. It’s very inconsistent in the scenes I was just checking 

[Papa Rat]

This Hasegawa set has the white. It’s sort of all over the place. 🤔
 

[Chronocidal]

For Hasegawa to focus on the mainly white versions makes sense, when they got around to making the weapons sets they were mostly focused on DYRL designs, which tended to adhere slightly more closely to realistic weapons markings.

Not that the black and red markings on the missiles was unrealistic, it just wasn't the type of marking you'd see on a production air-to-air weapon.

I'd still like someone to actually detail the seeker tips with a sensor of some type, rather than just giving up and going "I dunno, make 'em blunt."

Edited Thursday at 03:59 AM by Chronocidal

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

I'd still like someone to actually detail the seeker tips with a sensor of some type, rather than just giving up and going "I dunno, make 'em blunt."

I can’t remember which have made an attempt, but I do remember one with a little hole in the front. Maybe one of the recent kits, but I think it was one of the toys. As far as kits, you could basically take either a small drill or maybe a needle point file and make a small hole. Then some red or clear red for the sensor 

[nightmareB4macross]

4 hours ago, Papa Rat said:

This Hasegawa set has the white. It’s sort of all over the place. 🤔
 

The mostly white missiles only exist in DYRL.

The red accent missiles are for SDFM.

The color coincide with the bombs.

[pengbuzz]

UPDATE: What you've all been waiting for:

First, how to rescue 31 year old decals:

 

Soak them in very hot water for 30 minutes, then carefully slide them onto new decal paper (used backing) and swish around with plenty of water to get rid of all the old, yellowed glue (as seen in the first pic!).

And now, the pictures:

With flash:

 

Without flash:

  

More pics:

 

Wing positions:

 

Helmsman had too much blood wine:

Stay tuned...

 

Edited Thursday at 08:28 AM by pengbuzz

[Big s]

28 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

UPDATE: What you've all been waiting for:

First, how to rescue 31 year old decals:

 

Soak them in very hot water for 30 minutes, then carefully slide them onto new decal paper (used backing) and swish around with plenty of water to get rid of all the old, yellowed glue (as seen in the first pic!).

And now, the pictures:

With flash:

 

Without flash:

  

More pics:

 

Wing positions:

 

Helmsman had too much blood wine:

Stay tuned...

 

Looks very organic. The colors really give some depth 

[Papa Rat]

4 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

UPDATE: What you've all been waiting for:

First, how to rescue 31 year old decals:

 

Soak them in very hot water for 30 minutes, then carefully slide them onto new decal paper (used backing) and swish around with plenty of water to get rid of all the old, yellowed glue (as seen in the first pic!).

And now, the pictures:

With flash:

 

Without flash:

  

More pics:

 

Wing positions:

 

Helmsman had too much blood wine:

Stay tuned...

 

Good looking build! Also like the old decal transfer trick. Very cool. 

[Thom]

Great work @pengbuzz! Nice work on the hinges, and the helmsman is clearing trying out a new evasive manuever.

[nightmareB4macross]

9 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

UPDATE: What you've all been waiting for:

First, how to rescue 31 year old decals:

 

Soak them in very hot water for 30 minutes, then carefully slide them onto new decal paper (used backing) and swish around with plenty of water to get rid of all the old, yellowed glue (as seen in the first pic!).

And now, the pictures:

With flash:

 

Without flash:

  

More pics:

 

Wing positions:

 

Helmsman had too much blood wine:

Stay tuned...

 

That build is looking great!

I never new the glue could be removed from old decals. Always figured they would be ruined once you water to them. Thanks for the great tip!

Did you apply Decal Setter? Or another adhesive to make the decals stick?

Great Build.

[Papa Rat]

Going to experiment with some complimentary underpainting on this little Valkyrie. So I’m thinking blue under the orange and a purple under the tan. Might look like 💩in the end but why not. 

[MechTech]

@pengbuzz THANK YOU for the tip on the glue. I always thought it was the film that yellowed!? GREAT looking weathering and paint. I don't imagine they're the type of people to take their bird to the car wash!😁 - MT

[pengbuzz]

3 hours ago, MechTech said:

@pengbuzz THANK YOU for the tip on the glue. I always thought it was the film that yellowed!? GREAT looking weathering and paint. I don't imagine they're the type of people to take their bird to the car wash!😁 - MT

No problem MT!! I thought the same thing, then I decided to test one of the "decals" that was just the copyright info for the set (Ertl seemed to be big on that back in the day). It turns out it's the glue for it!

On that note: in a pinch, if there isn't much glue left on a used decal sheet, just use a little watered-down Elmer's Glue. And keep in mind: PLENTY OF HOT WATER when trying to get the decals to release and to move around.

Also: mind where you have your Micro-Sol bottle. I just lost half a bottle when I accidentally knocked mien over,  and that's all I had left in the bottle.

I'll have to replace it in 3 months; everything is so expensive now, even white bread is a commodity. O.o

[pengbuzz]

10 hours ago, nightmareB4macross said:

That build is looking great!

I never new the glue could be removed from old decals. Always figured they would be ruined once you water to them. Thanks for the great tip!

Did you apply Decal Setter? Or another adhesive to make the decals stick?

Great Build.

I first put them on a used decal sheet to pick up the glue from that. Then, I used Micro-Sol to make them conform (repeated applications, then a hair dryer on low for a few minutes). You can use Elmer's Glue if needbe (watered down a bit).

And yeah: it's just the glue turning yellow from UV. Once removed (and new glue applied), they seem to work fine. On really old one, you might want to use Micro-Clear liquid decal film to reduce the risk of shattering.

Edited yesterday at 04:00 AM by pengbuzz

[nightmareB4macross]

31 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

I first put them on a used decal sheet to pick up the glue from that. Then, I used Micro-Sol to make them conform (repeated applications, then a hair dryer on low for a few minutes). You can use Elmer's Glue if needbe (watered down a bit).

And yeah: it's just the glue turning yellow from UV. Once removed (and new glue applied), they seem to work fine. On really old one, you might want to use Micro-Clear liquid decal film to reduce the risk of shattering.

Thank you.

No matter how refined we get, we always learn something new.

[Cheese3]

Old model, and G-saviour.

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Cheese3 said:

Old model, and G-saviour.

That’s a real mix “Oh Cool” and “Oh No” at the same time. The old models are the “Oh Cool” part

Althogh, if you got a fun group of friends, some drinks, some snacks and have fun with bad films, then it might end up worth it

then again, make it a double feature and watch Psycho Goreman right after it for some real fun. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Big s

[derex3592]

I uncovered and uncluttered the paint bench this morning! Cleaned up and 99% ready to paint with my new NO NAME compressor! Just need an adapter for the hose I just don't happen to have 🤨 The kit stash under the bench is only temporary, until wife and I get the back room closets emptied out of boxes from the renovations. Stay tuned! ACTUAL modeling shall resume......... soooon..... ish... 🙄 😂 

[pengbuzz]

20 minutes ago, derex3592 said:

I uncovered and uncluttered the paint bench this morning! Cleaned up and 99% ready to paint with my new NO NAME compressor! Just need an adapter for the hose I just don't happen to have 🤨 The kit stash under the bench is only temporary, until wife and I get the back room closets emptied out of boxes from the renovations. Stay tuned! ACTUAL modeling shall resume......... soooon..... ish... 🙄 😂 

*drool mode activated*

[Chas]

That's a great tip for old decals @pengbuzz and a nice job on that Bird of Prey.

@derex3592 that new space is looking better and better, but I suspect it will feel best when it's  all cluttered with parts trees and pieces from your first build!

Anyway, updates on the mods to the Hase SDF-1. Just about done the build phase for the mods. Had to make some compromises with the details, but overall I'm happy with the progress.

Pics.

Edited 2 hours ago by Chas