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Gotta admit, I was stunned when the mid-episode break popped up. Lotta stuff was crammed into that first half. Regarding the plot developments: Yeah, I don't know what to think anymore. Also, the group singing the new OP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-wC6Fzb-Y . . . .sounds very familiar : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I00mwLcwxOE

I kinda understand A1's point: I miss all the gaffes and the low-budget look of the movie. (Maybe bust out more animation errors or fourth-wall breaking moments to compensate?) And if they keep using the "Who's interrupting my [insert phrase here]?!" bit, the gag is gonna get old real quick. As much as I like Boondocks, I don't want Boondocks-lite set in the 1970s. HOWEVER, any cartoon that adds the phrase "Whorphanage" to the lexicon is alright by me!

Surprised that they haven't made a General Pong Krell figure yet. Even as a battlepack.

Just hold off on reading the spoilers for now. The payoff will be worth it. Plus, you'll have less of a wait for Episode 14.

I haven't watched the movie, but there's definitely clues in this episode that

Just watch the ep.; it'll clear things up. Especially, the "flashbacks."

Thanks for the update! Got the DVR primed and ready. I really hope we see some Kung Fu TREACHERY!!™

Just finished watching Episode 13. HOLY SH#T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn that was an awesome episode! Get ready for some crazy-ass flashbacks and some key exposition in this episode. Can't wait for the throw-down coming next episode. To answer your questions Keith: Potential, but unconfirmed theories:

Yeah, I was wondering whether Elena was:

Those final 5 to 10 minutes of Episode 12. . . . . . . . . . Thanks for the info. Marzan. Definitely feels like we've reached a significant point in the story now.

Happy Birthday, America!

Just saw Episode 11. Yeah, my jaw's still on the floor. Anyone know how many episodes this series is supposed to run? It seems like we're getting more background origins on the non-main characters than we ever did in the original E7. Also so far, I'm finding Gazelle to be the most intriguing character. Despite acting like the stereotypical hot-head teenager, he's been deceptively perceptive about a lot of people and their motives.

As I've said in the past, I got no issue with the captain drinking and doing the snoochie boochies with Vickers. I just think he should have order one of his crew members to stay on the bridge and keep an eye on the stranded scientists while he did the deed.

However, humans have sacrificed themselves for far less, whether it's a nation, an idea, a belief, or especially, for loved ones. Pretty sure if the survival of the human race (and my family) was in my hands and I had a chance to eliminate that threat, I'd take it. Besides there's no telling what the capabilities of the Engineer's ship were or whether Prometheus would ever have a chance to catch up with them again. Take the shot while you still have the opportunity.

Ahh, forgot about that. So in order to drift as leisurely out of the atmosphere, what would the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow have to be?

^^No, if you're accelerating, it means your velocity is changing. You can be going at a constant 40 miles per hour. But if you're doing a steady 40 mph while turning in a circle, you're changing your direction (and thus, changing your velocity), meaning you're accelerating. Constant speed, but still accelerating. High school physics and calculus have served me well!

I'm sure the ex-wife can channel her inner Onatopp and kill her captor with her vice-like thighs. Or she can go full-Phoenix Force on 'em and turn them into crispy fritters.

Correct me if I'm wrong but your point is that the original Alien films can't be tied directly to Prometheus because the actions in Prometheus are never mentioned in the other (earlier released) films. The point I was trying to make (with heavy doses of sarcasm) is that it's just as likely that the events in Prometheus would NOT be mentioned in the Alien films [in universe] because that information would be buried or covered up by the Weyland Corporation. Considering that most of the Prometheus crew didn't know what their mission was, I doubt Weyland Corp. would disclose to the public exactly what the Prometheus' mission was, if at all. And in the event that they did mention the Prometheus' launching to the public, I'm sure the corporate types could come up with a bunch of plausible excuses for the lack of contact with the ship or the delay in its return. Worse comes to worse, they could simply say it was a privately funded mission and any information about Prometheus is deemed private proprietary information. The people most likely to know what happened on LV-223 are the corporate heads at Weyland Corp. And given all that happened down on LV-223 and assuming they do discover what happened there, I doubt they would ever share all that information to the general public. Now given this idea (that Weyland Corp. has more motivation to bury the knowledge of Prometheus rather than make all the gory and embarassing details public knowledge), would it make sense for Weyland Corp. to reveal the events of Prometheus to a towing crew or explain all the backstory to an undercover android in Alien? Assuming he even knew about the events in Prometheus, would it make sense for Paul Reiser's annoying corporate type in Aliens to disclose any information about Prometheus to Ripley? I doubt that bit of information would have helped his cause to get Ripley back on that return mission. You're arguing that it doesn't make sense that Prometheus is never mentioned again in the future of the Alien universe. But my position is that the lack of mention is very plausible and makes sense, given the embarassing end results (from Weyland Corp's perspective) and the secrecy surrounding Prometheus' actual mission. Given this background idea, it also makes sense for none of the other Alien movies to make reference to Prometheus, considering the status/standing of the characters in the original Alien movies and their very likely lack of access to that information. I'll admit that I haven't seen the exact quote you referenced just yet. (Google failed me!) But I see the phase "further tangentialize it away from the first Alien film," and I don't automatically think "alternate universe." Personally, I think "two different stories set in the same universe." One story (Prometheus) will likely become the story of Elizabeth Shaw and/or David. And the other (the original Alien films) eventually evolves into the story of Ellen Ripley. Until a future sequel makes it clear one way or another, I don't see why these two stories can't exist in the same universe.

If they had gone with this FP version as the initial release or gone with the cobalt blue CF version, I'd be so getting this. Getting tired of the white hero-valk schemes.

Shouldn't it be called "Taken. . . .Again"? Was pleasantly surprised with the first one. Hopefully, this one will be just as entertaining.

Maybe the Prometheus sequels will cover this or mention this in passing. Maybe they will go back to LV-223. But considering the results of this first mission and considering the potential of running into the Space Jockeys/Engineers again (who BTW want to destroy our race), there's probably quietier, less costly ways to go about collecting these alien biological weapons. Because clearly, an ultra-super-powerful, mega-corporation that's practically more influential than most nations in-universe wants it to be public knowledge that their iconic founder and leader went on a wild space adventure to try and stay immortal and got killed in the process by an alien race that created life on earth. And this ultra-powerful corporation wants everyone in the public to know that this trillion-dollar space mission resulted in the destruction of their ultra-advanced spaceship and the loss of everyone on board (except for the severed head of an android and one female scientist). Oh! And did we mention that both the corporation's founder (Peter Weyland) and his daughter also died on this mission? And you know what? Let's let our competitors know that we've discovered a biological weapon that could reveal a number of technological and scientific discoveries. Let's share this information with them and allow them to make profits off of something we discovered and paid for in blood and in sacrifices. I have nothing against what you said in bold. But until the eventual sequels prove otherwise, your theory about about this being an alternate universe is where I think you go off-base. While I consider the film fairly enjoyable, I still think it's flawed. And it's not because I have some massive devotion to the original Alien films that I consider it flawed. It's because of all the pre-requisites you need to watch to fully appreciate the film and the plot omissions/questions in the film itself. As a stand-alone film, it fails in that regard. Maybe sequels will answer those questions that Prometheus generated. But until then, Prometheus still gets an "It's okay, but . . . " incomplete grade from me.

Awesome pics, ff95gj! The stripe does look white to me too. I think I have the right blue hue to make it a Diamond Force bird if it does turn out to be white on the final product. . . . Or I could try pulling off a minor custom scheme again! So not sure if this was asked earlier but, are the missiles gonna be removeable from the leg armor?

Actually, you can pull off an A-stance with the Beta: Linky. I'm NOT sure you could pull it off with the Alpha attached. But the hips do have the ability to pivot out a bit. I'm surprised no one's annoyed with how gappy the Beta is between the legs and center fuselage in bomber mode. (Personally, I'm guessing it's a design compromise.)

To explain my biggest pet peeve another way: it seems like you have to take/watch a bunch of "prerequisites" just to fully appreciate/understand the film. It's a bit of a bad sign when you have to tell someone (before they watch the movie), "Oh, you should really check out this made-up timeline they did for the movie's Weyland Corporation." "You should watch this made-up speech Peter Weyland gave at the TED conference." and "You should probably check out these videos of the David android." The film is lacking on its own, as a stand-alone movie. On another topic:

Thanks for the link (Kick-ass customs and an intriguing link to boot? Impressive!). I think if I hadn't read that link prior to watching the film, I would have been having a number of WTF? moments. Considering all the little viral links and easter eggs throughout the Net, I think I realize what's kind of a "tough sell" about this movie: you need all this background information just to get a good sense/understanding about this movie. Yeah, any average movie-goer should get the sense that Weyland Corp. is this big bad corporation™. But without seeing the viral stuff, they don't realize how HUGE of a freakin' corporation and how heavily ingrained they are in the in-universe world. Biological, military, and space travel. That's a pretty expansive list of specialties! Average movie-goer knows that David is an android. But they don't realize that the androids were specifically designed to do things that normal humans couldn't. . . like do "unethical" things and never once consider the moral implications of their actions. I think that's where my hestitancy to rave for this film comes from: I like it. But it doesn't spell out/develop enough of its bigger themes. One throwaway line about 2000 years ago wasn't sufficient for me. It should have been fleshed out a little more. Even a quiet moment, where the Captain tells Shaw, "Hell if you made humans and saw how we were acting and "evolving," wouldn't you CONSIDER pulling the plug on the experiment?" In summary, it wasn't a bad movie. But it would have been nice if they tightened up and expanded certain areas of the story and plot.