jwinges Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Anybody notice the abundance of oddball valks in Macross 7 dynamite. Several different heads and fastpack units. Most of the fastpack look like VT1's but not as fat. Anybody know if these valks are classified anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross_Fanboy Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Well, the Zolan patrol uses VF-5000 Star Mirages and Basara uses a VT-1C and later a VF-19P that magically turns into his VF-19Kai after taking a nuke blast. The poachers use VBA-6s I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Well, the Zolan patrol uses VF-5000 Star Mirages and Basara uses a VT-1C and later a VF-19P that magically turns into his VF-19Kai after taking a nuke blast. The poachers use VBA-6s I think. The VF-19P turning red isn't a magical thing. When the poachers nuke the main space whale, it splatters blood all over the VF-19P in battroid mode, which is why parts of it are still colored white in fighter mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Anybody notice the abundance of oddball valks in Macross 7 dynamite. .. Yeah, well they match the oddball story and the oddball characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine23 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 (edited) Anybody notice the abundance of oddball valks in Macross 7 dynamite. .. Yeah, well they match the oddball story and the oddball characters. C'mon, A1... even you have to admit that blood-drenched valks are cool. Particularly when it involves using a nuke on whale in space. That's just awesome. Edited May 11, 2004 by Blaine23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwinges Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 Yeah but did you notice the strange heads on some of the valks. Also some of the fastpack boosters looked funny. Anybody got a pic of the VBA-6s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrox Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/dynamite7/index.htm Never heard of a VBA-6, but this lists all the valks I know about from Dynamite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross_Fanboy Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Well, the Zolan patrol uses VF-5000 Star Mirages and Basara uses a VT-1C and later a VF-19P that magically turns into his VF-19Kai after taking a nuke blast. The poachers use VBA-6s I think. The VF-19P turning red isn't a magical thing. When the poachers nuke the main space whale, it splatters blood all over the VF-19P in battroid mode, which is why parts of it are still colored white in fighter mode. It's friggin magic man! Blood, okay, but when the hand moves up to the "face" and then it drops away, you see green "eyes" similar to the VF-19Kai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 (edited) I don't mind Dynamite 7, but mecha wise it is easily the worst entry in the Macross universe are far as mecha design and action go. Edited May 12, 2004 by Panon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterX Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Well, the Zolan patrol uses VF-5000 Star Mirages and Basara uses a VT-1C and later a VF-19P that magically turns into his VF-19Kai after taking a nuke blast. The poachers use VBA-6s I think. The VF-19P turning red isn't a magical thing. When the poachers nuke the main space whale, it splatters blood all over the VF-19P in battroid mode, which is why parts of it are still colored white in fighter mode. It's friggin magic man! Blood, okay, but when the hand moves up to the "face" and then it drops away, you see green "eyes" similar to the VF-19Kai. You can see the VF-19 whiping part of the blood from the visor with it finger leaving two parts "eyes" clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/dynamite7/index.htmNever heard of a VBA-6, but this lists all the valks I know about from Dynamite. He probably means VAB-6. Anybody know if these valks are classified anywhere? http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross_Fanboy Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Well, the Zolan patrol uses VF-5000 Star Mirages and Basara uses a VT-1C and later a VF-19P that magically turns into his VF-19Kai after taking a nuke blast. The poachers use VBA-6s I think. The VF-19P turning red isn't a magical thing. When the poachers nuke the main space whale, it splatters blood all over the VF-19P in battroid mode, which is why parts of it are still colored white in fighter mode. It's friggin magic man! Blood, okay, but when the hand moves up to the "face" and then it drops away, you see green "eyes" similar to the VF-19Kai. You can see the VF-19 whiping part of the blood from the visor with it finger leaving two parts "eyes" clear I gotta watch that part again then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I'd still like to know where Basara thought he was going without a fold booster at the end. Same thing with Gamlin and Mylene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/dynamite7/index.htmNever heard of a VBA-6, but this lists all the valks I know about from Dynamite. He probably means VAB-6. Anybody know if these valks are classified anywhere? http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/index.html Actually, the poachers are using illegally re-armed versions of the VA-3C Invader. There is no VAB-6 or VBA-6 in the continuity (yet). There is only the VB-6 König ("King") Monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Actually, the poachers are using illegally re-armed versions of the VA-3C Invader. It's still a VA-3C..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross_Fanboy Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I'd still like to know where Basara thought he was going without a fold booster at the end.Same thing with Gamlin and Mylene. I think that the whales made some sort of a "fold lane." A wormhole of sorts I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterX Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I think they just keep going into deep space, no worm hole or magic fold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 (edited) I think they just keep going into deep space, no worm hole or magic fold I hope they have some MRE's on board. Edited May 12, 2004 by Anubis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J A Dare Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I'd still like to know where Basara thought he was going without a fold booster at the end.Same thing with Gamlin and Mylene. Does it really matter? Not part of the story. We know Basara has a propensity to go off and wander. And we never actually see Gamlin or Mylene leave. For all we know, they could have called back to request a couple of boosters. Yep, after splattered with blood, Basara wipes the visor. I like the Zolan Patrol VF-5000 Star Mirage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 It's friggin magic man! Blood, okay, but when the hand moves up to the "face" and then it drops away, you see green "eyes" similar to the VF-19Kai. You can see the VF-19 whiping part of the blood from the visor with it finger leaving two parts "eyes" clear Actually, he's removing the clear protective visor which covers the eyes. It being covered in whale blood and all. Wiping wouldn't work. VF-19 fingers aren't equipped with a squeegee function Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Nope, doesn't appear to be removing anything, he is indeed rubbing out eye holes. Considering the hands are built for manipulation, it stands to reason they'd have some grip to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Fruity Valk removes Fruity space whale blood from Fruity Pilot's valk....whatta story...oh wait, it's a Fruity story...that's right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Actually, he's removing the clear protective visor which covers the eyes. It being covered in whale blood and all.Wiping wouldn't work. VF-19 fingers aren't equipped with a squeegee function It's not the easiest thing to see since it happens quickly but Keith is right. He clears two gaps on the visor that in combination with the other splatter left on there makes it coincidently look like the face of his old VF-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterX Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I thought that the only ones with the name Valkyrie were those fighter of the VF-1 serie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Leader Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 the VF-1 is officially classified as the VF-1 "Valkyrie", later VFs use the term "valkyrie" to loosely apply to any number of variable fighter aircraft that change from a fighter mode to a battroid mode by way of a gerwalk mode. Standard VF-1s can be seen in the openings of each episode of Dynamite 7 I'm probably the only person on this board that thought the VT-1C that Basara used was cool. I don't know why, but it appealed to me. Admittedly, I would probably arrange for some more traditional fast-packs. still it just looks cool to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I thought that the only ones with the name Valkyrie were those fighter of the VF-1 serie all VF/VT/VA/VAB's are generally called Valkyries.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 The VF-19P is based on the VF-19 Custom. The Patrol version of the Excalibur appears to have a clear dome visor and possibly a second sensor assembly infront of the main optical sensor unit. The "face" is too well defined, with curves and edges that look much different than what can be seen through the out clear dome-shaped visor which Basara appears to slide up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterX Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I'm probably the only person on this board that thought the VT-1C that Basara used was cool. I don't know why, but it appealed to me. Admittedly, I would probably arrange for some more traditional fast-packs. still it just looks cool to me. I didn't think it was cool, just nice, i guess the diference on the design is because it is more modern than the original Ostrich, also notice that its fast packs worked in planets atmosphere and allowed the VT-1C to go into space. I think people here will say the VT-1C sucked just cause it was in Dynamite and Basara used it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Looks kind of interesting actually, with the more elint-type head on that VT-1C frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 The VF-19P is based on the VF-19 Custom. The Patrol version of the Excalibur appears to have a clear dome visor and possibly a second sensor assembly infront of the main optical sensor unit. The "face" is too well defined, with curves and edges that look much different than what can be seen through the out clear dome-shaped visor which Basara appears to slide up. Like I said, hard to tell. But it really looks a lot more like blood stuck on the outside of the visor is what's giving it the facelike appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrox Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Why do I see a nose, mouth, and more pronounced visor if it's only blood? Gotta go with Nanashi on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 They probably just changed the face on purpose in that "eye-wipe" part to make it look like a new Fire valk in that moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Leader Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Richter, I could be mistaken, but I think all of the VF-1X plus series was transatmospheric WITHOUT fastpacks (the VT-1C would be included in this series)... but I could be wrong. As far as the VF-19P is concerned... I think that image is supposed to be kind of an "implied meaning" thing...(as silly as it sounds), kind of a way for the animators to show everyone that Basara was using the VF-19P in the same fashion as the old Fire Valkyrie, and it's spirit kind of carried over. Where that particular aircraft might've been different, the power of FIRE and BOMBER still reside within... so yes, you are SUPPOSED to see the VF-19Kai in that picture... for a reason that's really difficult to explain (at least, that's MY take on it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 The VF-1X maybe able to reach escape velocity, I'm not to sure about that either, but I'm pretty sure the VT-1C in Dynamite wouldn't have been upgraded. I'm thinking only VF-1's that were still being used by the UN forces would be upgraded to VF-1X's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Richter, I could be mistaken, but I think all of the VF-1X plus series was transatmospheric WITHOUT fastpacks (the VT-1C would be included in this series)... but I could be wrong. We haven't seen the VF-1X+ without boosters reach satellite orbit. But, judging by the specs, the VF-1X+ was updated to the engine performance of a VF-5000 and/or VF-11(A/B/C/D note: not D-Custom, i.e Jamming Birds Custom). The only VFs we have seen reach satellite orbit without booster assistance have been the later model VFs (11MAXL and Custom, 14, 17, 19, 22). The FAST packs on the VT-1C in MD7 appear less intrusive than the original VT-1 FAST packs (boosters are smaller and not attached to the backpack, leg packs are smaller in width allowing a "straight" leg as opposed to a "bent" leg of earlier VF/VT-1 FAST packs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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