Valkyrie Hunter D Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Despite her name, Priss is too much of an "ape-woman" OMG!! Take that back!!! This is my 4th fav series of all time and in a way I've come to despise the 2040 version. Nope, I'm not taking it back That "ape-woman" crack came straight from Nene in part 8 when Linna and Priss were giving her a hard time during training excercises. BTW, did any of you get a chance to read Adam Warren's Grand Mal? If you hate what he did with the Dirty Pair, you'd probably want to steer clear of it. Warren didn't take too many liberties with his take on BGC, but he does add a little more detail about Sylia and her origin. Overall I thought the story is kinda stale (rogue vengeful android, yadda yadda), and his drawings are too clean and simplistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Out of interest, how do you BGC fanatics rate Bubblegum Crash? I gotta know since I just picked up the Manga UK DVD for like ten bucks. Out of 10, I'd give it a 6. Crash wasn't horrible, but I think the attempt to bring Largo back fell flat. And the old suits looked better than the ones Crash introduced. Dig that theme song though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 BTW, did any of you get a chance to read Adam Warren's Grand Mal? If you hate what he did with the Dirty Pair, you'd probably want to steer clear of it. Warren didn't take too many liberties with his take on BGC, but he does add a little more detail about Sylia and her origin. Overall I thought the story is kinda stale (rogue vengeful android, yadda yadda), and his drawings are too clean and simplistic. Grand Mal is utter trash. I don't mind his art style so much, it's okay for what it is. But he managed to mess up Priss' character reeeeeeeeeally bad. The general storyline was really... eh, whats the point? I was not impressed. Better off picking up AD police or AD Police 25:00 if you want a BGC comic fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELEINEN Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Out of interest, how do you BGC fanatics rate Bubblegum Crash? I gotta know since I just picked up the Manga UK DVD for like ten bucks. You got ripped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myriad Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 (edited) Best female BBC Character for me is Vision. Edited October 28, 2003 by Myriad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnollman Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 BGC was the first anime I started with, and the only one I've bought on VHS, then Laserdisc, and then DVD. The music and hardsuit designs are what sucked me in, and the characters kept me there. I also love the AD Police series prequels, and even the less well rated BGCrash! show... Besides, it has Oomori Kinuko in it, and I'm a big Silk fan.... I have to say, though, I love the hardsuit designs for Crash... like them better than Crisis, though the Mark II Suits in Crisis come very close... As to the 2040 series, I rather liked it. It's not as strong as the first show in any aspect, but I didn't hate it. I did like the music, though A7 is dead on the konya wa Hurricane remake.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriShield Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 I've never been a big fan of Priss. In fact it delighted me whenever something really bad happened to her in the series. I really wish more episodes would have been made, it truly is a classic show now with a classic art style and excellent music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted October 28, 2003 Author Share Posted October 28, 2003 Speaking of Kenichi Sonoda, what's he been up to these days? It seems that he hasn't done much after Gunsmith Cats was made into a 3-episode OAV (he should've made it at least a 13-episode TV series instead). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELEINEN Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Speaking of Kenichi Sonoda, what's he been up to these days? It seems that he hasn't done much after Gunsmith Cats was made into a 3-episode OAV (he should've made it at least a 13-episode TV series instead). Isn't the GSC manga still running? Personally, I never cared for GSC. Sonoda's a good artist, but I don't think his writing skills are up to par. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted October 28, 2003 Author Share Posted October 28, 2003 Isn't the GSC manga still running? Personally, I never cared for GSC. Sonoda's a good artist, but I don't think his writing skills are up to par. When a manga artist has The Blues Brothers and the original Gone in 60 Seconds as his favorite movies, don't expect a great story from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 The plot for GSC was certianly no worse than your average Hollywood movie, but his ability to draw pretty girls, realistic guns and amazing action sequences is what made the comic so good. Quite stylish for a manga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifand Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Sonoda's current work is Canon God EXaXXion... currently up to book 7 or 8 in Japan, but only at book 2 in English. It's basically huge robots, guns and tits. Great!!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynx7725 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 It's basically huge robots, guns and tits. Great!!! :-) I think the proper description for EXaXXion is "Huge Robots, Big Guns and holy-mother-of-god-sized tits". :) Honestly, any bigger and his female characters in EXaXXion won't need life vests while in water. "Personal Floatation Devices", indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 I love the GSC mangas... can't get enough of them. Better than most of the crap american comics can come up with. The OVAs started out great but changed gear in the middle with sub par animation. What a drag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted October 28, 2003 Author Share Posted October 28, 2003 It's basically huge robots, guns and tits. Great!!! :-) I think the proper description for EXaXXion is "Huge Robots, Big Guns and holy-mother-of-god-sized tits". :) Honestly, any bigger and his female characters in EXaXXion won't need life vests while in water. "Personal Floatation Devices", indeed! Are you telling me they're larger than those of Masami Obari's chicks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynx7725 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Are you telling me they're larger than those of Masami Obari's chicks? If the manga's any indication, about the same size. (Granted, mostly on the 'droids created by the hero's father...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 There's at least one person who's absolutely obsessed with Sylia.......MACKY! My favoite part would have to be just about everything, with the music standing out (I probably watch hurricane live more than the OVA's). Still haven't seen Crash, though it's on my plate for next year. 2040 had a ton of potential, but was hampered by ADV's influence trying to make it an Evangelion clone. The invasion of A.D. Police headquarters was cool though. I'd say while not the best, I enjoyed it. I hope they bring back the orignal styled hardsuits for 2041 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted October 28, 2003 Author Share Posted October 28, 2003 Still haven't seen Crash, though it's on my plate for next year. Well, you're not missing much. - The animation quality of Crash is inferior to eps. 5-6 of BGC. - Due to her commitment as a rock singer, Kinuko Omori stepped down as the voice of Priss. She was replaced by J-Pop singer Ryoko Tachikawa. As a result, Priss' character gets screwed up and she betrays us by becoming an idol singer. - No GENOM here. Not even an explanation of what happened to the corporation. Of all the animated incarnations of BGC, Crash is the weakest. At least it's still better than Adam Warren's poor attempt at doing a BGC comic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Hungry Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 I remember Priss being rather pissed at the thought of being an idol singer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JELEINEN Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Still haven't seen Crash, though it's on my plate for next year. Well, you're not missing much. - The animation quality of Crash is inferior to eps. 5-6 of BGC. - Due to her commitment as a rock singer, Kinuko Omori stepped down as the voice of Priss. She was replaced by J-Pop singer Ryoko Tachikawa. As a result, Priss' character gets screwed up and she betrays us by becoming an idol singer. - No GENOM here. Not even an explanation of what happened to the corporation. Of all the animated incarnations of BGC, Crash is the weakest. At least it's still better than Adam Warren's poor attempt at doing a BGC comic. You forgot to mention the fact that Crash is mostly over the top silliness and has none of Crisis' edginess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted October 28, 2003 Author Share Posted October 28, 2003 You forgot to mention the fact that Crash is mostly over the top silliness and has none of Crisis' edginess. Yeah, I forgot about that. I just haven't seen Crash in over 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeleader1 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Still haven't seen Crash, though it's on my plate for next year. Well, you're not missing much. - The animation quality of Crash is inferior to eps. 5-6 of BGC. - Due to her commitment as a rock singer, Kinuko Omori stepped down as the voice of Priss. She was replaced by J-Pop singer Ryoko Tachikawa. As a result, Priss' character gets screwed up and she betrays us by becoming an idol singer. - No GENOM here. Not even an explanation of what happened to the corporation. Of all the animated incarnations of BGC, Crash is the weakest. At least it's still better than Adam Warren's poor attempt at doing a BGC comic. What happened to Genom was this. At the end of the vision episode, the american boomer designer was arrested and turned states evidence that Genom was making illeagal combat boomers. Rosenquaritz(SP?) the head of genom was arrested, while the company for the most part was broken up and sold to several other companies, Notably the comapny that was designing the new A.I. in bubble gum crash. Genom still exists but in a form nowhere the mega corp it was. This was one of the reasons Nene thought the nightsabers were breaking up. Linna was a stockbroker, Priss got her singing contract, Sylia got her revenge and was now focusing on her clothes/lingerie shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakobi Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Thanks guys for the feedback on Bubblegum Crash! I just need to get around to buying the original Crisis DVD releases. Thing is, i'm not really sure about it seeing as a lot people said it was a flawed release (horrid menus, VHS quality video etc...) As far as Kenichi Sonoda goes, didn't he do Riding Bean after GSC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Riding Bean was pre-GSC. That's why Rally in the RB anime looks a lot different from the Rally we all know now. When Artmic closed the ownership of the characters in the Riding Bean OVA was under dispute. Sonoda changed her look and put out the manga. I guess after it was settled, he was able to use Bean in the stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Nut Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 BG Crash was very disapointing in comparison to the 2 series though 2040 is only just better in my opinion. The original crisis was the best by far and im planning on getting the dvds soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Oddly enough, BGCrash is supposedly more or less what the final 5 episodes of BGCrisis would have been. Albeit heavily edited and cut down, it's generally believed some of the original story is there. But it's still really disapointing either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 The BGC DVD's aren't as bad as some are saying. The video isn't majorly flawed, and my only real gripe with the set is that M2K used the dub video masters (and as such, the english ending credits). If they'd have used the raw ones, the set would be in better shape. Suffice it to say, there's a reason AnimEigo is authoring disc's themselves now. As for Crash, I own Macross II, Orguss 02, & Megazone 23 Prt III, so owning Crash won't kill me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 As for Crash, I own Macross II, Orguss 02, & Megazone 23 Prt III, so owning Crash won't kill me Oh, okay. You got a point there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I'm just curious, is the Mason-Largo theory well known among general BGC fandom? The regulars on alt.fan.bgcrisis seem to subscribe to it as well as the R. Talsorian RPG. For those curious, here's the link: Mason-Largo Theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Hungry Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 (edited) Mason-Largo...........interesting, hadn't heard that afore. Edit in: very interesting read there Yellowlightman. Thank you. Edited October 29, 2003 by Capt Hungry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I've never seen that manga, but there is enough info there to be an interesting read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnollman Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Sonoda's current work is Canon God EXaXXion... currently up to book 7 or 8 in Japan, but only at book 2 in English. It's basically huge robots, guns and tits. Great!!! :-) Book 6 only just came out last month in Japan. Books 7 and 8 are a good bit off, I should say.... they tend to be released one a year.... Been following that one since 1998.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 This nice little tidbit was mentioned in Right Stuf's weekly update e-mail: *** Packaging Crisis *** If you've been looking for the Bubblegum Crisis DVD Set and individual DVDs and haven't found them, don't worry - they're not being discontinued. We recieved word from AnimEigo that due to an expired sublicense with M2K - AnimEigo will be redesigning the packaging and giving Bubblegum Crisis a newer, fresher look. You can expect to see its release sometime in mid 2004, we'll be sure to update you when this wonderful series is available for order once again! Hopefully this includes a remaster. From the wording it kind of looks that way. New packaging and a fresher look. We can hope at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoptimus Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Hopefully. Man the M2K job was crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 No, I won't. I paid for it once already, I'll be damned if I am going to pay for it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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