Zero Enna Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 I have a question: When a human and a zentran have a son, a boy will born. When a human and a meltran have a son, a girl will born. So, when a human and a half-meltra or a half-zentra have a son, what the genre of the kid? It will be a boy or a girl like the half-alien father/mother or will born like the human (with a unprevisible genre )? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dna Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 None of that is true. This was discussed not too long ago and no one could find any support for the sex determination thing. It's an Macross Urban Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjek Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 woah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dna Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 dude... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Max and Millia just happened to have a LOT of daughters. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Actually, Meltrans only exist in DYRL and the story stops there. No stuff about Millia's daughters at all. However in TV, Millia is a Zentran and had a daughter and some more daughters (M7), while in Plus, Guld's father was a Zentran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Actually, Meltrans only exist in DYRL and the story stops there. No stuff about Millia's daughters at all.However in TV, Millia is a Zentran and had a daughter and some more daughters (M7), while in Plus, Guld's father was a Zentran. Nope, Meltran exist in the TV continuity too, as the female military force. Protoculture splits into 2 factions. Zentran = side that used males Meltran = side that used females. Protodevilin attack, all previous protoculture hostilities put aside, and some fleets are melded together to help fight against the Supervision Army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 (edited) Actually, Meltrans only exist in DYRL and the story stops there. No stuff about Millia's daughters at all.However in TV, Millia is a Zentran and had a daughter and some more daughters (M7), while in Plus, Guld's father was a Zentran. Nope, Meltran exist in the TV continuity too, as the female military force. Protoculture splits into 2 factions. Zentran = side that used males Meltran = side that used females. Protodevilin attack, all previous protoculture hostilities put aside, and some fleets are melded together to help fight against the Supervision Army. err, maybe I missed it, but where in TV did it specifically said the female forces were named or referred to as Meltrans instead of Zentraedi? even in M7, Millia referred to herself as a Zentraedi and never a meltran. Besides DYRL, only MII had specific referrences to Meltrans . Edited December 18, 2003 by treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKlown Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Fleet of the Strongest Women? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imode Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 When a human and a meltran have a son, a girl will born. Ouchie. Poor kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Fleet of the Strongest Women? Ahh. I didnt see that episode in my M7 copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Enna Posted December 18, 2003 Author Share Posted December 18, 2003 QUOTE (Zero Enna @ Dec 17 2003, 09:33 AM) When a human and a meltran have a son, a girl will born. Ouchie. Poor kid. In my country english isn't the official leguage. So I don't speak english all time and some moments I forget some words. Thanks to find this error for me, now I remember the correct word so... When a human and a meltran have a child, a girl will born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 None of that is true. This was discussed not too long ago and no one could find any support for the sex determination thing. That part is true. Unless there's some determining factor, best way to know is to do an ultrasound scan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Actually, Meltrans only exist in DYRL and the story stops there. No stuff about Millia's daughters at all.However in TV, Millia is a Zentran and had a daughter and some more daughters (M7), while in Plus, Guld's father was a Zentran. Nope, Meltran exist in the TV continuity too, as the female military force. Protoculture splits into 2 factions. Zentran = side that used males Meltran = side that used females. Protodevilin attack, all previous protoculture hostilities put aside, and some fleets are melded together to help fight against the Supervision Army. Isn't Protoculture just a pretty flower that Meltrans wear in their hair? (Dons bullet proof vest and runs for cover). Sorry, I should know better, but I'm in a silly mood today. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Fleet of the Strongest Women? Non canon. "Meltrandi/Meltran" do not exist in official continuity, being a DYRL creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKlown Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Fleet of the Strongest Women? Non canon. Since when? It's part of Macross 7, which is an official part of the timeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 I have a question: When a human and a zentran have a son, a boy will born. When a human and a meltran have a son, a girl will born. So, when a human and a half-meltra or a half-zentra have a son, what the genre of the kid? It will be a boy or a girl like the half-alien father/mother or will born like the human (with a unprevisible genre )? You mean "gender", not "genre", man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Fleet of the Strongest Women? Non canon. Since when? It's part of Macross 7, which is an official part of the timeline. I just watched that episode last nite and I will have to concur with Panon as the episode not being canon. From MAHQ archives, this particular episode was never aired and prolly not really an integral part of M7. I could guess a reason for leaving it out after watching it. The FSW-episode tried to tie M7 into DYRL and MII, which is really directly counter to the whole basic premise of M7 being a sequel specifically to the TV-series canon, not to DYRL-canon nor is M7 a prequel to MII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Zentraedi Language Zentran = male Meltran = Female Collective terms for the sexes are: Zentraedi (also used for the entire race as well) Meltrandi Although there is nothing official, all evidence points to the zentraedi genes being dominant in gender determination at conception, however if a half zentran or half meltran has a child with a human its an unknown. Macross II would indicate that the gender domination is still in force, but past that its back to the old human lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Zentradi= Mankind or Men. Zentran = Man. Meltran = Woman. Meltrandi = Women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentrandude Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 i dont think protoculture cared about zentraedi reproducing so the chances is same as humans. i think zentrans and meltrans are lucky that they left them with reproduction orgrans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKlown Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 (edited) I just watched that episode last nite and I will have to concur with Panon as the episode not being canon. From MAHQ archives, this particular episode was never aired and prolly not really an integral part of M7. There was a lot of Macross 7 that never aired but is canon. So since there doesn't seem to be any official word one way or another, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Edited December 18, 2003 by McKlown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 I just watched that episode last nite and I will have to concur with Panon as the episode not being canon. From MAHQ archives, this particular episode was never aired and prolly not really an integral part of M7. There was a lot of Macross 7 that never aired but is canon. So since there doesn't seem to be any official word one way or another, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. It's rather easy to figure out - FOTSW was a discarded episode with no place in the timeline that was later put on dvd as a bonus. Watch the material that comprises the official Macross timeline - Macross, Flashback 2012, Macross Plus, Macross 7, Macross 7 movie, Dynamite 7 - and note that you will never see or hear any references to the events of FOTSW or Meltrandi. You'll never hear the word "Meltrandi" at all. Also note their complete absense from the Macross Compendium, except in reference to Macross 2 and DYRL which are non-canon and fictional events (non-canon) respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 There is no evidence that Male Zentraedi only have sons and Female Zentraedi only have daughters. The chances of boys or girls is the same for the Zentraedi as the rest of us Humans. Like it's been said earlier males only having males and females only having females is a myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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