TheLoneWolf Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Obviously, HD textures are going to take up a lot of space on the disc, but I think what makes this game 50 gigs is all the uncompressed audio. There's nothing like hearing Snake get into a 1 hour monologue about his fifth grade science fair project, all in the middle of heated boss battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Pretty much. Your average "next gen" console or PC game is only about 10 to 15 gig tops for the actual game mechanics, models, textures, sound effects, etc. It's all the FMV video and audio that tip the scales. I mean your average video game will not fill up a Blu Ray disc, heck it probably won't even fill up one side of a Blu Ray disc... but a Blu Ray HD movie with all it's video and audio will max that sucker out. Plus the textures can't be too crazy. The PS3 is good but it's not the best you can get for texture pushing capacity. I'd even call the PS3's usual texture resolutions "adequate"... they are not much to write home about compared to the pure balls a super high end PC game and video card can muster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F360 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 It's all the FMV video and audio that tip the scales If you played any of the Metal Gear solid games you would know that all the FMV video you talked about is IN GAME so it doesn't take as much space as the normal FMV you talk about. It's not a pre made video file like Final Fantasy. The audio is the main cause,, having 7.1 sound takes lots of room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doodler7 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Man, they better have lots of boobage on this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 The audio is the main cause,, having 7.1 sound takes lots of room. And from what I've seen they claim the game is going to be mastered in 7.1 uncompressed audio... which IMHO is kind of gimmicky. The people who will actually be able to take advantage of that are like 1 in a few thousand, if that. Then again they might as well put it in... a lot of people are putting a lot of eggs in this basket. If this game doesn't blow the socks, shoes and toenails off of a lot of people its going to be kind of sad. So many people have waited so long for this game... it would be a real shame if it doesn't live up to the already gargantuan hype it has brewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 (edited) And from what I've seen they claim the game is going to be mastered in 7.1 uncompressed audio... which IMHO is kind of gimmicky. The people who will actually be able to take advantage of that are like 1 in a few thousand, if that. Then again they might as well put it in... a lot of people are putting a lot of eggs in this basket. If this game doesn't blow the socks, shoes and toenails off of a lot of people its going to be kind of sad. So many people have waited so long for this game... it would be a real shame if it doesn't live up to the already gargantuan hype it has brewing. It's happened before, most openly with Halo 2 and the Star Wars prequels. Edited March 7, 2008 by CoryHolmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 It's happened before, most openly with Halo 2 and the Star Wars prequels. Or MGS2, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Yeah it happens all the time, the problem with the metal gear series is that it really only sells well with the people who have been playing since mgs. Its just too hard to jump right into the plot when you are 4 (or 6) games in already. 1 final thought... the cutscenes never really bothered me but the damn codec moments were always annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN_MARINE Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 (edited) i'm cool with the 50Gig game, as long as they didn't go overboard with the cutscenes & the end credits better be skippable. hopefully there won't be any more of that 64 frog crap either i had to assassinate those bastards 2 times! once for MGS3, another for SUBSISTENCE. i do not want to do that all over again! i think i know where the other 20+ gigs are gonna go to: EXTRAS->VIDEOS->PAST MISSIONS "Snake: the ass-kickermentary" plus the tutorials & extra-extra stuff, probably camo, VR missions, boss battle, monkey hunt the revenge... i think that about covers the mystery 40gigs the 7.1 audio's interesting, hmm... i'm gonna need a new surround sound system for it EDIT: Edited for smartassery Edited March 7, 2008 by UN_MARINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Honestly, the game has already exceeded my expectations with the previews that have been shown so far. And for the record, I really enjoyed MGS2, and MGS3 rocked my socks. The only thing Kojima Pro. has ever done to dissapoint me is not release Policenauts over here, and not do a kickass remake/sequal to Snatcher. If by chance they manage to cram those games into the 50 gig BR, all the better. More than the stealth aspects, I really enjoy the convoluted stories Kojima concocts, so I don't mind the long cut scenes & codec conversations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promethuem5 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I can guarantee there will be some kind of collectible like the Frogs in 3... collectibles are all the rage nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 More than the stealth aspects, I really enjoy the convoluted stories Kojima concocts, so I don't mind the long cut scenes & codec conversations. Convoluted is one thing, but I got off the MGS bandwagon with Liquid Snake's spirit still in his arm and being able to assume control over the body it's grafted to and that whole craptacular idea about 200 year-old spirits still living in the White House and really controlling everything. After all of that, I'm more than content with Splinter Cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Convoluted is one thing, but I got off the MGS bandwagon with Liquid Snake's spirit still in his arm and being able to assume control over the body it's grafted to and that whole craptacular idea about 200 year-old spirits still living in the White House and really controlling everything. After all of that, I'm more than content with Splinter Cell. Ha I haven't played MGS2 in awhile, was it really 200 year old ghosts or did they never answer that question? As for the arm posessing another person......thats one of the dumbest plot lines ever but it was necessary as to give ocelot a new gun arm and liquid the chance to come back for revenge . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 And was also suedo explained by Ocelot's father being The Sorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ly000001 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Man, they better have lots of boobage on this game. Yes, 70-year-old Eva boobage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 And was also suedo explained by Ocelot's father being The Sorrow. I know this is just a typo, and will not hold Keith accountable for this, but SUEDO makes me think of a super fabric!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I know this is just a typo, and will not hold Keith accountable for this, but SUEDO makes me think of a super fabric!!! Or maybe Suedo is a character from Monster Rancher... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) Hmmm...gun metal PS3 MGS4 bundle? Looks like it. Edited March 19, 2008 by Gaijin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) What's that bonus disc with the special edition? I'm tempted to import this one, if Konami is kind enough to include international text/subtitles, I'll be all over it. I just noticed gamestop has a pre-order up now listed with some kind of bonus DVD. Suffice it to say, I've now pre-ordered. Any word on how long that's been listed. Edited March 19, 2008 by Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 US version @ Gamestop has the Metal Gear Saga 2 DVD. Not sure about the import. From what I've heard on the KPR, the Japan version will not include english subtitles. Probably more a Konami corporate bean counter decision over a Hideo one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Any word on what the contents will be? Hopefully I won't have to fight as hard to get this DVD as I did saga vol 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promethuem5 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Awww, the gunmetal on the bundle PSP is so lame compared to the crazy color of the standard one... oh well, at least it's different. My goal for this weekend is to finally finish MGS2 so I can finally start 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpchi Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Finally got mine. The Medicom MGS4 12" Old Snake. The rubber suit wasn't as bad as people put it. It actually has very good shoulder movement and holds position well, but the elbow can only hold at 90 degree without bouncing back. And no wrist articulation does hurt quite a bit (and bad choice on Medicom too). But I am surprised at the sturdiness of the inner body, and it doesn't seem very fragile (I did need to take apart a leg to fix a bad lower leg/feet connection though, all good now). And the figure stands surprisingly well without needing a stand. So overall, the body is decent. Almost felt like most people expected a lot from a rubber suit 12", without realizing its limitations. Also a surprising move on Medicom to make Snake taller than all other Medicoms. Old Snake is now as tall as a normal 12", even though the head tend to be a tad smaller in comparison, due to the anime style proportion. And when I look at the inner leg structure, it does look a bit different from their standard RAH301 body. Its like a modified 301 body with some extension, and probably the metal joints too which I don't see in the lower leg. The weapons are pretty horrible though. My gun is actually not bent like some of others', but its still not that great. Turn out I just use the magazine clip and use that on the chest rig. So much for that M4. Might try to paint it up a bit to see if I can make it any better. But as of now, details are very soft and just looking very plain, not to mention no functioning bits. And that knife looks like a rubber knife that got ran over by a car...so end up giving Snake a nicer M4 with similar setup, as well as a real knife he can hold. Also did some touch up to the eye and eye patch. Seems to improve it a bit. So for me, a cool but only decent quality figure with many minor issues that can be fixed. But the weapons are a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) Now pretty much confirmed that MGS4 in the US will have a Limited Edition version of the Game itself besides the Console Bundle and regular version. It will include: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots in a Metal case A Blu-ray Bonus Disc that has: 2 behind the scenes/making of documentaries Hideo Kojima Interview 4 chapters of the graphic novel Metal Gear Import Soundtrack CD in addition to (if pre-ordered @ Gamestop) MGS Art Book The Metal Gear Saga DVD Vol 2 with the Metal Gear Online Beta code for April Limited version: $84.99 Remember the Limited version of Subsistence? Pre-order now, and avoid the high eBay craziness. Edited March 24, 2008 by Gaijin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Leader Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Does this remind one of a certain mooing mecha from a certain video game? Very impressive video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Does this remind one of a certain mooing mecha from a certain video game? Very impressive video. I feel so bad for it when that guy kicks it! And I was totally rooting for it when it loses it's balance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chowser Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) ok, so I am assuming if I get the MGS4 PS3 console, I will have to shell out again for the limited edition stuff? Great...decisions decisions.... Edited March 25, 2008 by Chowser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) Well, Japan certainly wants their MGS4: Japan MGS4 Bundle Sold out No official word on the US contents other than the DS3 included, and most likely the regular edition of the game. Would be nice if they include the Limited contents as well. Makes sense, though we have seen the Halo 360 with no Halo in the box at all so.... Edited March 26, 2008 by Gaijin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpchi Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Just did a quick paint job on Snake's plastic toy gun. While the functionality is still just as bad, it looks quite a bit better now. And given its his signature gun and being one that fits his hand the best, guess I'll use it to pose from time to time now. Also got Old Snake a "mini me". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Ha mini-old snake. Very nice work with the gun, still warped though, shame they couldn't have included something better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 (edited) Woo new news http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/3802/2/ ! So aparently now is the time to pre-order from gamestop of all places if you want to try out the online mode, also good news if you already pre-ordered online as they will send the key to you through email. Edited April 5, 2008 by dizman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 already got my saga 2 dvd, now it's just waiting until june! Getting a peak at the game engine with the MGO Beta will be nice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F360 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I finally went and made my pre-order of MGS4 Limited edition at Gamestop today. Got the Metal Gear Saga DVD, but have to wait for the special MGS Art Book. They say it will be given out when the game comes out. Everything went pretty smooth other then the fact that when I told them I want to pre-order Metal Gear Solid 4, they asked me for which system. lol All of the Gamestop should have the Metal Gear Saga DVD by now, I heard besty buy got them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I finally went and made my pre-order of MGS4 Limited edition at Gamestop today. Got the Metal Gear Saga DVD, but have to wait for the special MGS Art Book. They say it will be given out when the game comes out. Everything went pretty smooth other then the fact that when I told them I want to pre-order Metal Gear Solid 4, they asked me for which system. lol All of the Gamestop should have the Metal Gear Saga DVD by now, I heard besty buy got them too. Finally picked up my copies of Saga 2.0. Gonna watch it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I got my saga 2.0 as well! It was an ok watch but kinda left out some serious plot points (such as foxdie), of course it does encompass all 6 major games. I liked that they had the trailers for the game on the disk as well, nice touch! Now all that remains to be seen is if MGO is a SOCOM clone when we play the beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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