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Well, when all is said and done please keep us informed!

Anyone else want to say that II is a rehash of DYRL?? All joking aside, thanks for the read. Tis some interesting information indeed. I think I'm going to have to find a copy of Roman Holiday and check it out now. It makes me wonder what other influences there are in the Macross universe.... I can only think of a couple.... Thanks again!

Interesting.... Thanks for the info, Savvi, Graham.

I'm trying to order the game from Amazon.co.jp but I keep getting the following message: I don't get it; why can't I purchase this game? I've purchased CDs (Macross Frontier OSTs) and Blu-ray discs (Macross Frontier) from them before, so what makes this game any different? Is there someone here that can translate Kanji well? I'm taking a Japanese class...but I'm struggling with the Katakana and Hiragana as it is...Kanji is way over my head. Why can't they use rooma-ji? ='(

Heh, there are several BGM tracks from Frontier that I'm hoping will be released as well. There was one on Macross II that was never released...tis my fav. BGM from II too. The BGM is played while Sylvie and Hibiki drift in space...waiting to be picked up...after having escaped from the Mardook. Anyway...here's hoping the release a lot of the BGM from Frontier soon!

Hehe, more or less, yeah. I'm a real sucker for background music; especially music that sounds so great like "is this LOVE?" Tis a favorite of mine too!!! I searched this thread earlier, for the name of that soundtrack, and saw your posts. I don't ever recall hearing it in Frontier either. Macross II had a similar 'deal' where there was one track, on the second OST, that was never played in II. Someone in this thread suggested that "is this LOVE?" was played in episode 6...at the part where Sheryl is testing things out for her concert. The two are similar...but are definitely not the same song/track. Who knows...maybe they'll use the track in the movie? Either way, it's definitely and easily one of my fav. tracks. Listening to it on my iAudio7 with my Sleek Audio SA6s is just something else.

Anyone else loving the track "is this LOVE?" as much as I am? I can't seem to get enough of it. I wish they would release more BGM!!!

Civilization Revolution is the only one that comes to mind.

I'm finally at Chapter 3 in Dead Space and I must say that this game is pretty intense!! I'm constantly looking behind me and taking every corner ever so carefully

Bioshock Call of Duty 4 Elder Scrolls Oblivion Dead Space Halo 3

Has anyone else picked up Dead Space? Thoughts/opinions?

I don't know why it is but some people seem to insist that Macross II is nothing but a rehash of Macross DYRL? Is there a new race in Macross DYRL? that we're introduced to? No. Where's the news reporter, as a main character, in Macross DYRL?? Where's the new fighter in Macross DYRL?? Where are the Macross Cannon Class type ships in Macross DYRL?? Where's the Zentraedi/Meltrandi emulator in Macross DYRL?? Macross Plus had a 'damsel in distress'...as did Macross Zero, Macross Frontier, and Macross II. Macross II had Dennis Lone die; Macross Plus had Guld; Macross Frontier had Michael; and Macross Zero had DD Ivanov and Nora Polyansky die...all of which were in some kind of battle. Are they all rehashes of SDF Macross or Macross DYRL? because of such things? Just because a story uses some of the same plot devices found in another story, doesn't mean that it's a rehash. We may as well call Macross Frontier a rehash of SDF Macross since it used a lot of the same plot devices. Macross II is NOT a rehash. As for the "sudden love realization." It was apparent to me that the two started to bond together half way through the show. Just the way they started to interact with each other (as compared to how they were earlier in the show) should have been a big enough hint for the audience, in my opinion. There's the scene where Sylvie lets Ishtar and Hibiki go after she catches them on the Macross. There's the Culture Park scene.... Then there are the scenes where Sylvie helps Hibiki rescue Ishtar (especially these scenes). Just to recall a few.... I believe they all help lead up to the eventual kiss (hope I haven't ruined part of the ending for anyone who hasn't seen II yet). "Moo Ichido Love You" is a fantastic song...I can't get enough of it and a lot of the music from Macross II. d3v, if you ever get the chance to, check out the song "Soko ni Aru no ga Mirai dakara." It's a good one too in my opinion. Even though it was never played in Macross II, it can be found on the second Macross II OST. It was played in an episode (or two?) in Macross 7 though; I don't remember which episodes. To this day I still wonder why it was never played in Macross II. I'm a real sucker for BGM/easy listening tracks too. "Ark of Alus," "Futari," "Kyoukou Toppa," and "Kizuna" (all found on the Macross II OSTs) are some of my all-time favorites...especially "Futari." Someone else mentioned the blowing up of the Macross. Yeah, I was actually shocked (decultcha!!) by the destruction of it...but I believe it helped put a bigger emphasis of the message it was trying to get across. Was I the only one that got goosebumps throughout the entire show? [fanboy]Macross II 0wnZ!!![/fanboy] Edit: Grammar.

Thanks for the heads up! Gonna grab a copy while I'm at it!

Is it strange that I'm not willing to watch the last episode subtitled? I've seen it raw...but it feels like once I watch it subtitled then I won't have anything to look forward to in regards to Macross. ...Yes, I know there's a movie coming out...but after it comes out then what? Am I the only one doing this?

...Who voted 2??! Why?! Edit: I don't know how many of you visit or find Anime News Network reliable...but this is how Frontier is rated over there. Thought I'd mention it. As of October 1, 2008: User Ratings: 318 ratings have been given [details] Masterpiece: 103 votes (sub:99, dub:3, raw:1) Excellent: 108 votes (sub:103, dub:2, Por.sub:1, Spa.sub:1, raw:1) Very good: 51 votes (sub:47, Spa.sub:1, dub:1, edit.dub:1, raw:1) Good: 27 votes (sub:25, raw:1, dub:1) Decent: 5 votes (sub:5) So-so: 7 votes (sub:7) Not really good: 7 votes (sub:7) Weak: 3 votes (sub:3) Bad: 2 votes (sub:2) Awful: 3 votes (sub:3) Worst ever: 2 votes (sub:2) Seen in part or in whole by 767 users, rank: #626 Median rating: Excellent Arithmetic mean: 8.5817 (Excellent-.41), std. dev.: 1.9158, rank: #119 Weighted mean: 8.389 (Very good+.38), rank: #143 Bayesian estimate: 8.36891 (Very good+.36), rank: #70

When do you guys normally play? I haven't tried playing MGS4 yet. I've been too busy playing FFXII and God of War.

I'd knock on wood if I were you. I've had my first generation 360 since November of 2006. It hasn't RROD on me...nor have I had any problems with it. ...Now I better knock on wood. >_< Has the update to the dashboard gone live yet?

What real difference would it make to the story though? As of now all we can really do is speculate. I believe that if the creators really thought it was pertinent to the story, for us to know how Ranshe learned the song, they would have told us. Like the others, the only things I can think of would be that she either came across the Vajra singing that song or she somehow deciphered the song from something.

I gave it a nine (9) because I believe some of the animation could have been a tiny bit better...and because the love triangle wasn't fully resolved. I think the story is really well done with the plots and twists it had. There were some definite tear jerking moments in Frontier...as well as some funny ones. To me, a great story is one that jerks you around emotionally...and Frontier did just that. The characters were well thought out and developed; I'd say I'm pretty attached to the whole lot of them. It was heartbreaking to see Klan so distraught over Michael...hell I even felt the loss of Michael. The music is just fantastic; Yoko Kanno really out did herself I think. There are times where I'll listen to nothing but the music from Frontier. The animation was top notch in my opinion. Sure, there are some scenes that could have been drawn better...but I understand there's budget constraints and the likes...so it's no big deal in my opinion. Then there's the mecha pr0n! There was plenty of it and it was beautifully orchestrated if you ask me. Anyway.... I'm so glad that I rediscovered the Macross Saga back in 1995. It's because of the Macross Saga that I've come to fully enjoy the Macross series. The Macross series has been a BIG part of my life; I have much love for it! I CANNOT wait to see what's next!!!!!!

Oh yeah? I was right about the connection between Frontier and Zero long before the teaser for Frontier even came out! With the way Zero ended, I was thinking Frontier was going to have something to do with the events in Zero.

I voted no to both...only because I believe nothing could ever top the original that started it all. I don't see how some of you are saying Frontier's animation wasn't that great. It's a lot better than what's seen in Macross 7, in my opinion. Overall, Frontier is one of the best in the series.

So it all boils down to the capitalization of the letter "n"? I've always taken it as their way of avoiding any legalities tied to SDF Macross. Story-wise though, it'd be nice to see why the transition was made. I haven't had a chance to play through VF-X2...since it never came to the States. I guess I could search online for a synopsis of the story found in VF-X2....

Yes, I didn't like what happened to the SDF-1, but I thought the story was great...along with the music, characters, and animation. As for using the Minmay Attack 80 years later. From my understanding all they were really dealing with were rogue Zentraedi. They had an effective means of disorienting those Zentraedi and it was working for them for that long. If it isn't broken, why fix it? It makes perfect sense to me. It just annoys me to see someone fault II for using plot devices found in another show. ...And of course I would never take offense...it is your opinion and you are, of course, entitled to it just like everyone else. To each their own. Edit: My apologies for going off-topic.

A lot of people care. How could one not care?! Frontier essentially revolves around Alto, Sheyrl, and Ranka. I don't see how anyone could watch a show and not care what happens with it's main characters. Sure, there's a bigger picture to be seen...but when hasn't there been a bigger picture? Just because a lot of us want the triangle resolved DOESN'T mean we're ignoring or forgetting everything else that happened in Frontier. When one gets emotionally attached and invovled with a show, it's hard not to get attached to the characters and want answers. At least that's how it is for me....

Well I never expected to see what became of the Megaroad-01. I've come to terms that we won't find out. If anything, I was hoping to see what became of Shin and Sara. As for all of "Kawamori's trolls," I just took them all as nods to the previous shows...and nothing more. Macross Frontier is truly epic; it has far exceedingly surpassed my expectations on all fronts. I'm actually quite saddened and bummed out that Frontier is over. I can only imagine what the movie will bring.