sketchley

Thank you. Appreciation is always appreciated. Completed the front page of Mechanic: MF UN 05a: Destroid: http://www.macrossroleplay.org/forums/index.php?topic=2149.msg31838#msg31838 Not sure when I'll be able to tackle the last half. Though, now that the Great Mechanics.DX article is off my plate, it should be "sooner".

Thank you. Appreciation is always appreciated. I've reorganized the Macross Chronicles translations page somewhat: http://www.macrossroleplay.org/Sketchley/portal/Chronicles.htm It's a bit easier to navigate now. One of these days, I'll have to get around to adding all the pages, not just the ones that I/others have translated and are interested in translating. One of these days...

2nd topic of debate: Again, animation who's outcome is dictated by the power of plot cannot be taken in the literal sense. One must keep in mind the circumstances: - were the shots direct hits, or ones that ricocheted off the armour? - do the Octos have the anti-laser coating on their armour, like the VF-0, and Sv-51? If so, did Fokker hit the same spot twice? And let's not forget Shin's use of the head laser, underwater no less, which successfully penetrated an Octos's forward sensor cover. A place that most likely does not have an anti-laser coating, and was definitely a direct hit. Again, definite proof that the power of plot trumps all, and nebulous proof of the effectiveness of the head lasers.

Seriously, what's your point then? This is all stemming from an indisputable fact* that may or may not have been recalled correctly. As you've already decided to leave it, then let it go, and don't bother with it if it ever gets posted here or elsewhere again. * (Not aimed at Seto Kaiba, but at others who like to nitpick these kinds of things): what is the fact? The fact that it is information published in the book cited.

Completed the sections of the GM.DX #8 article that I wanted to completed: http://www.macrossroleplay.org/forums/index.php?topic=2634.msg40762#msg40762 Some eyebrow raising stuff. Interesting insight on a bunch of stuff in the backstory of Macross F.

Contemplate standing behind a cliff with the engines turned off. Then you might get my drift. Ambush, man. Ambush. You say inconsistent, then you talk about a completely different vehicle. That's not inconsistency at all. Now, if the two VF-1 books are inconsistent, then we've got a problem. You've lost me. I think you're adding stuff that I wasn't saying to your interpretation of what I said. What I've been saying all along. And how is this not real-world realistic? Take the flash in your camera. It runs off the batteries, right? WRONG. It runs off of a capacitor. The capacitor runs off of the batteries. Same for the head laser in the VF-0 and VF-1. The difference with the camera is that, by all appearances, the capacitor is always charging, even when the capacitor is discharging. If what you say is so, then where are the big power cables running directly from the engines to the laser guns? Heck, why aren't the engines on the head as dedicated power supplies? Your logic is elusive to all but you... Why do you bring up the show? The show is dictated by the power of plot. What the writers and animators decree. Of course it's going to be inconsistent. Do we know the size of the VF-4's capacitors? Are the VF-4's engines more efficient at generating electrical power? WE DON'T KNOW. So stop bringing in irrelevant comparisons. You don't watch shows like "MacGyver" or "Mythbusters" much, do you? End-users do use things in ways that the designers never intended, you know. History is another good source, with the ultimate in unintended uses: the antitank sock. I'm fairly certain that the designer of the sock never saw that one coming. Fokker destroys at least one with a well-placed shot from the head-laser. Not sure where your getting your ideas from, as the weapons of the VF-0/1 were being deliberately designed to overcome Zentraadi Battlepods equipped with Energy Conversion Armour.

Let's avoid any debates about specific publications being part of the "official setting" or not for threads dedicated to those specific publications, thank you. It's text about the VF-1. And it makes perfect sense. Consider this: how is a pilot going to move stealthily in battroid with the engines constantly at maximum output to keep a ready supply of power for the laser gun if there is no capacitor? Keep in mind that EVERYTHING that's gone before was revised somewhat at the time of Macross Frontier's debut. (One could even say that the revisions had already happened with Macross Zero. Heck, DYRL.) ... and is the laser designed to be a cutting tool? If memory serves, it's expressly designed as an anti-aircraft weapon, and fires at a multi-thousand pulse rate per minute. Therefore, even with a capacitor and firing controlled bursts, it's more than able to fulfill the role it was originally designed for with a 15 to 20 second continuous fire charge. Which doesn't mean anything. As we don't know how much power is required to motivate all the actuators. We don't know what the power requirements are of the avionics and life support. We don't know how energy much the Energy Conversion Armour needs, either. Sure, 650 MW is more than enough power, IF there are no other systems concurrently in use. But that's a thought-experiment, and not corresponding to the (revision of the revised) reality that we've been presented with.

Which is strange. Though, in a way, they already mentioned the publication date indirectly when they made the announcement that it had become a quarterly publication (I believe it was either 006 or 005 that indicated a month).

The main reason why the VF-0 (VF-1...) has a laser gun in the head is because of space constraints. A machinegun could be mounted, but there's little to no room for the bullets. Anyhow, if memory serves, VFMF:VF-1 (forget which one), states something along the lines that the laser gun is powered by a capacitor, and it can be fired continuously for 15 seconds. If the engines are running near maximum output, but not being used for flight, the weapon can fire for 20 seconds.

You don't read the translations nor Macross Compendium much, do you? The super dimension is like sub-space in Star Trek. It allows only the superluminal communication much like Star Trek's sub-space communication. The super dimension is also where vessels fold into when travelling via fold (fold-in, travel, fold-out). Power supplies for large vessels are invariable heat-piles or thermonuclear reaction engines. Anti-gravity movement comes from the gravity control system, powered by the heat-pile and/or thermonuclear reaction engines. So too are the Beam weapons. It's unclear what allows fold-wave tracking, but it's not the Super Dimension, as the Super Dimension is a dimension that vessels travel into/through/out of. Now, if you are going to harp on any element of Macross for being a minovski particle in disguise, a better target would be Fold Quartz. It's the plot device de jour that allows things like Dimension Eaters, Dimension Beam Guns, ISC, super fold boosters, near instantaneous galaxy-wide communication, and I'm pretty sure, but don't quote me on this one as I forgot the source, the ability to hear Ranka.

It's one of those confusing things where the PROJECT continues, but the SEQUEL is cancelled.

Those are standard Nousjadel-Ger power armours painted a different colour. Other than the different paint, they may look different because they're drawing by animators different from the designer. That's all.

Right here: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=23944 Now, even if it did say that you had rights to post opinions, what you posted was a statement of fact, not your opinion. At best, it's an illogical misnomer. Next time try: I don't like the artists drawing style. or The artwork is disagreeable with my tastes. With that, there'd be a jumping off point to create a discussion and not a negativity fest as the responses and responses to responses has turned into.

Nope. Only the VF-27 can. Also, the Energy Conversion Armour of the VF-0 and Sv-51 should probably be considered a "generation 0.5" type. Sure, it's the same as the "generation 1.0" from the Zentraadi mobile weapons (aka mecha) that was used in the VF-1, et al, but given how little electrical power a conventional turbofan engine can provide, it's not going to be near as powerful. Nope. The Ghost-as-supplemental-booster was only a 1-off used on the two craft seen in M0 because dorsal FAST packs weren't made/created/delivered/plot device on time for the final battle. They were basically stripped of their basically stripped down to fuselage, engines, fuel and missiles only. That said, there's nothing indicating that further research into using them as a remote weapon didn't happen. However, VFMF:VF-19 does provide two weapons that act like those funnel things you mention.

Glad I stopped paying attention to it after the first series (which is where my description comes from).

Minovski Particles are a Gundam plot device originally created to justify mobile suits having to close to hand to hand combat range to do battle and to keep big ships from crashing to Earth with no other visible means of lift. 'tis a bit different from Fold Quartz, and it's derivative technology: ISC - which only allows manoeuvrability beyond what the human body can handle.

That would be only the VF-27. The VF-25 doesn't have enough surplus power (blame ISC). VFMF:VF-19 does indicate that there is an attack variant that can use ECA in fighter mode, but it's maxed out and the majority of systems aren't powered. Oh, it also has the lion's share of beam weapons removed from it's airframe.

Where does it say in the TOS of this website that you have any rights?

As I watched M+ in excess 10+ years ago, I'm actually quite disinterested in it. So no, I can't be bothered to see Macross Plus, let alone be bothered to do anything about preparing financing for a 3D remake, if there was one.

Sounds correct. VF-25 Armour Pack: limited ECA use in fighter mode VF-27: unlimited ECA use in fighter mode YF-29: also unlimited(?)

More importantly than the PPB system, the energy conversion armour system can be used in fighter mode!

This +1.

Finished: Glossary #20: http://www.macrossroleplay.org/forums/index.php?topic=2349.msg41230#msg41230 Gah... forgot how much of an effort is required for these pages. >.<

This. + if you can draw a large amount of manga better, more consistently and always within short deadlines, why aren't you employed as a manga-ka?

In short, the thermonuclear turbine engine uses a fuel to power the engine, and a gas to expand and eject out the rear end. In atmosphere, the fuel uses are negligible (it's unclear if the air itself is being converted to fuel or not), but a good many VFs are listed as having "unlimited" combat range in atmosphere. In airless environments, VFs use fuel as both the fuel to power the engine AND the gas to expand and eject out the rear end. Because of that, craft like the VF-1 basically only had enough fuel to defend their airbase/carrier in the void of space. Which prompted the development of FAST packs and Super Packs. Vernier thrusters do use fuel, and it's unclear what exactly is used. Presumably it's the same as the thermonuclear turbine engines, just via combustion, not fusion. Though, there are a few verniers on the engine nacelles of the space optimized VF-19 and so forth, that use diverted engine exhaust. What fuel is used in the engines? VFMF:VF-19 Excalibur states that the Super Parts carry a "hydrogen-oxygen slush" as fuel. So, it's not much of a stretch of the imagination to consider that in atmosphere the thermonuclear turbine engines use ambient oxygen. However, I haven't read a source that says that elements are extracted. Of course, that doesn't mean that such information hasn't been printed.