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That's why I like anime that isn't just aimed at a speicifc audience or "fans" of anime. Just wants to tell its story and is actually good for anyone who likes good stories and wants to be entertained. The more of a formula there is to something, the easier it is to get all jaded and cranky about it and say: "seen it before. Anime today sucks kiddies! In my day things were better..."

Heehee I love coming here whenever there is news of robotech shows. I remember when all the doubters said shadow chronicles would never ever in a million years come out and it actually did! Getting scared that robotech the live action movie might get made are you? hehe I agree with fifi that the whole point of doing a live action robotech is to include robots. Don't you get it? Transformers was the movie that made it ok to start releasing the giant robot live action movie and try to steal away some of the fans of that franchise towards RT. It's like what happened when X-men live action movie came out, and then later all the other super hero movies came out. Hollywood is all about trying to outdo the other guy and clone the hell out of each other and steal each other's idea. Just look at the similarities to disney and dreamworks movies that get released. $$$$ It's not art or anything. It's a kids/teens cartoon. You guy are worried that if it does turn out good, HG will benefit.. And even if it IS utter crap, shouldn't you be celebrating with glee that robotech as a franchise is failing to reel in new fans? Yeah yeah if it sucks it will "rape my childhood", but that is outdone by the pleasure of harmony gold not getting what they want (a successful movie) isn't it? (haven't they caused you grief that it would satisfy you that RT LA ends up being a turd?) I'm just saying.... BSG had some changes (Starbuck being a chic for example, the voices of the cylons, the blade-runner style replicant robots) and people got used to it, didn't they? Maybe this movie will take out some of the cheesy stuff from the cartoon? ie the singing bits, the 'oh rick', the cheesy sounding names like "Veritech", and actualy replace them with something better - just because something has changed doesn't mean it has to be a change for the worse. Having said all this I think the very name Robotech is already cheesy sounding, but considering the times we are living in surrounded by all this machinery(robotech automatically means something to a layperson as the name is selfdescriptive), the money made from the TF LA movie, and the cashing in of movies made from cartoons from the 80s, RT sounds like a natural choice to make into one. Yeah the legal battle and problems with designs are going to be there, but maybe they can make something that is very similar to a vf-1 that isn't a vf-1? VF-1 needs modernising anyway right?

And that's bad imo. Since nobody will buy GBP for every single VF that they want side covers for. I view the covers as part of the valkyrie (like how you get extra hands included) not accessories. Yamatoed!

Yeah looking good. Bandai is taking it seriously. Notice how they are formally dressed in the pic of them at the table? Must have listened to grahams complaint about appropriate clothes.

It looks different but it has a beauty all its own. Let's just hope if it is made, the robot mode has strong hip joints to support the weight.

Yeah but I still think yamato should have included accessories. Considering how small the FP covers are. So will there be a revoltech vf-11 down the line?

Nice little mod. Funny that yamato themselves didn't do anything to lock the chest.

These things are going to be like mini-1/48 but better. All they need to do is add the side parts. (colour matched to the valk)

So it looks like the revoltechs win the competition. Graham are you going to tell yamato to add to the GNU more stylised lines, or was it that the more mechanical and less organic look to the figure was its appeal and that it can't be seen as a negative point of the toy due to the makers not going for that goal? (stylised) One thing I like about the cheapy banpresto is that when it transforms into a fighter it doesn't look all deformed and stuff, but when you turn it into a battroid mode it looks "robotic" which is what the VF is. (not a person cosplaying as a mech with its delicate joints exposed to harmful bullets) What you have is two groups: (this is something I mentioned ages ago) -the model kit guys who want accurate proportions and treat the fictional mecha like a proper robot with restrictions to its movements. (because in real life wearing armor can restrict your range of motion) It's about the machine looking like a robot and mechanical details. (for example the live action movie transformers have a lot of little sculpted details that reinforce the idea that there are many little pieces that individually perform a function making up one big robot.) Take the neck as an example: when humans hold a gun they can tilt their head and look down the barrel of the weapon to aim, but for a robot it would not need to rotate the head in a tilt since it's just a machine with sensors. It would not make sense to let the vf-1a have an extra joint that was never there to begin with. Even if in the show it might have done that, the robot must play by the rules. A VF-1 can't really "sit down" in robot mode because of the problems that would introduce. Just as a destroid shouldn't be able to wiggle its midsection from side to side and do dance moves. It should only rotate the upper body like a tank turret and have the basic articulation in the limbs. It's a machine. -anime fan. Fan of the anime is a guy who likes the "cool moment" in the show and wants something that is closer to what a comic book artist would imagine of the hero robot going around killing things. The organic movements and stylish moves are what seperate the main "character" from all the useless cannon fodder who can't do those fancy moves and so in order to recreate that energy and life of the main character you can bend the rules a bit. For example it would be impractical for max genuis in DYRL to wait for the enemy to get so close and then shoot the alien in the face with the gunpod at close range after clobbering him with melee attacks, ....where a simple shot from a long distance would be a lot more practical and result in a faster kill allowing for him to move to the next target earlier and attack more people at one time. But this is a "Cool moment", like when you see a movie martial arts fight which isn't realistic and drags on for a long time because a simple move isn't enough to provide entertainment. In real life it might not be a 10 minute fight but end within 1 minute and using a simple move to get the job done because it's the most practical. Anime fan, wants a figure that can "be cool" over realistic. The first group doesn't think it is superior to the second group so please don't turn this into a big fight, just that you've got differences in opinion of what is more important. You can't say that high a higher range of movement in revoltech joints automatically means GNU is worse, just that you prefer that in a figure. And the sculpt nazi can't say revoltech sucks since the paint application and detail is poor because that isn't why people bought the smaller and cheaper figure for. For the price I think revoltech wins because of the accessories. Yamato seems really stingy in that area imo. I'm still waiting for a response about whether side covers are going to be added as standard parts for the yamato 1/60 vf-1 and still no confirmation. Yamato imo loses for not caring about the small things that should be 'easy to do'. In the case of the GNU, allowing FP is not that hard, but just like with the lack of gunpods for the 1/72 yf21 they are absent. Almost as if they want to later sell you a new and improved version later down the track to get more money. Call me cynical, but that's the vibe I get. They just want to milk it. Now when and if, revoltech get to the Qrau, and if Yamato have a GNU version of that, poseability to me is going to be a major thing because that mecha is very much an "elite robot" that deserves to be able to bend the limbs around and look cool killing cannon fodder. If the goal is to create a scene from DYRL, super posability is going to be a big plus for QRau. Not so much for a destroid since those things are slow, bulky and weighed down with realistic physics in the anime. But the Qrau has been shown to have high agility in robot to robot fights. The aces fight with style. An accurate sculpt plus very high poseability (like double jointed knees for example) combined into 1 figure is going to be what I look for.

They don't walk as often as hover around though. I bet a GERWALK only uses the walking for small crowded areas. I see that mode as being useful as a hard brake in space.

Side covers where are my side covers?

Beagle looks good. Wheels are a bit big though. CMs seems to have the best balance I think. Given the price I'm going to wait for some reviews of this first though.

Legend Of The Galactic Heroes Masterpiece ratings. Epic space war strategy anime. Maybe Harmony gold can take footage from that and say it's set in the future when rick hunter's descendants become military strategists?

I think a lot of the fear of technology is due to cyberpunk: computers are seen as replacing the human turning us into cyborgs with implants and we lose our humanity. How many 80s movies had the cyberpunk theme to them? Where its the man vs the machine and the machine is controlling us and mastering us, not the other way around. The second matrix movie presents this question: you fear what you don't understand, if you didn't build it, can't repair it, yet rely on it to survive, isn't the machine really in charge of you? Once the cog breaks, the whole machine breaks and so aren't you putting yourself in danger of dying when you become too dependent on something you might not need, but which is convenient to have? (like the devil offering you a gift but you end up signing a contract where you end up paying him much more) So anime also goes through that phase where those who don't really watch it fear it because it is foreign/alien/weird to them. Maybe if you let it control your life (like how some people are obsessed with gambling or alcohol or world of warcraft and it wrecks their social life) it will interfere with relationships with real people and time spent with humans as it becomes a religion. (like how hackers are obsessed with knowing absolutely everything about a machine and to normal people that frightens us that they have so much detail kept in their brain about what seems like insignificant information to the rest of us. The Amuro Ray character in gundam is just like that but with mobile suits.) But I think it is due more to misunderstanding, (due to limited exposure) than because of any real fear. Most people for example who call themselves a "fan" of something, are not really obsessive about it to the point that it makes them stop living a normal life. It's possible to be a person with an active lifestyle, who talks to people, and understands how something works without being 'scary', 'insane', anti-social, or *possessed. The hackers from the 70s (when the pc was mysterious, no common standards, only interest is by hobbyists) had less user-friendly interfaces available so I think that stereotype is really out of date today. Technology isn't as scary even though it can be unsafe. (ie children in danger of pedos trying to meet them live by talking to them in an online chatroom for example) *to a caveman observing a person who can read a book, the person sitting there for hours "doing nothing" might seem to be possessed by a ghost or has a disease or something. So similarly you get this reaction with the mainstream media who attack the videogamers of today. They must think the people engaged in a videogame are mindless zombies staring at a blank screen so they create all kinds of stupid theories about the videogames being bad and destroying a person's mind and making them unaware of their environment because the people look like they are in a trance lost. That's the "generational gap" was that I mentioned. The old don't understand something, so it makes them scared. Because normally they are in control of something. Something that is unknown or misunderstood makes them feel uncomfortable and not in control. They don't want their kid to be possessed by the machine and become a zombie "doing nothing". But people who do understand it, participate in it, know that your mind is heavily in concentration, you are aware of what's happening around you, the game is working your brain, and it just looks like your "not doing anything" to those who aren't able to understand what the fascination is. Just like the caveman would wonder what the educated man is doing when he is holding a bunch of paper with scribbles on it, just sitting there for hours not moving much. That isn't normal to someone who can't read.

The story is the protoculture factory on the *SDF-1 is the magic battery for aliens that runs all the mecha in the RT universe and the aliens want it because they are dying and running low on oil...er magic battery juice, extracted from leaves or something. Humans end up banging one of the alien females, realising it's better to find a way to end war then try to win one, and then good guy humans team up with good guy aliens to stop the war from escalating further which will only end up with both sides killing each other as the weapons get more and more powerful and rape the planet of natural life. Same thing happens in the gundam universes. War is bad, war is bad... Isn't that what all mecha shows end up being? *Zor is the creator of the ship and as the aliens' genius scientist, only he understand how it all works but he has morals and doesn't want to be forced to help build the nukes er....I mean weapons that end up destroying whole civilisations, so he plots against them and the SDF-1 (not called that by aliens) gets sent to earth. (I think that is the story, I haven't watched RT for a very long time!) The mind-controlled clone of Zor (we'll call him Zor Clone) that you see in Southern Cross retain some of the memories of him being used by the Robotech Masters in the past, and Zor Clone goes crazy (after the mind control wears off) and tries to get revenge on them as a clone. (as seen in the end of southern cross) Doing this causes an accident which awakens the invid to the alien WEED known as protoculture flowers of life, and this ends up causing even more problems as the alien insects can now smell it like bees collecting nectar from flowers. The giant bees can sniff it and this becomes like a radar blip every time a person turns on a machine using protoculture fuel. EDIT: I do agree robotech is a good and epic story, but if the right people are involved in this they can make it really good. Hopefully they don't just rush it, just to cash in on the interest in robot shows brought to live action, and instead treat it right. Treat it with the same seriousness of a BSG. But RT is not "macross only". Remember that. You can make a trilogy and cram in the stories of the tv series in "3 hours per movie" blocks like they did with lord of the rings! What robotech really is, is a story of aliens having an energy crisis (like oil running out? ) and coming to us to take the sole thing that produces the power necessary for them to keep killing and destroying things. And humans are the ones that were lucky to have it sent to earth by this Zor character in the hopes we could Bang a female alien, fall in love with it, and convince them to stop the killing because loving things is happier than fighting. That does not mean humans themselves aren't still hypocrites for fighting each other in the past, (global wars before the alien ship crashed to earth for example) just that perhaps Zor the genuis wanted the weakest and dumbest race (humans) to have it (like how the hobbits are the weakest and dumbest middle-earth race in LOTR) and maybe this would provide the right balance of power in the grand scheme of things since it will help complicate the evil, powerful alien races' plans for a little longer by hiding it in a spot which is very remote (in the case of robotech it was earth) away from the bad guys? Sorta like Frodo chucking the gold ring into the Crack of Doom in Lord of The Rings so the War of the Ring could end and people were reset to their default crappy powers again. (not necessarily solving the problem of war forever, but at least allowing all the power to NOT fall into the hands of one person which means slavery to all races both human and alien under the control of that one power. The ONE ring is the symbol of evil intent by the spirits that seek to control everything singlehandedly.) Zor is like the elves who don't want to have to suffer by keeping this power in existence only to have warring factions competing for control over it which only causes environmental destruction. The elves are the tree-hugging hippies of today who don't like the idea of pollution, or the threat of nukes destroying the environment. They were pissed that humans couldn't resist the urge to throw the ring away in the first place thousands of years ago and now have to deal with the problem again. Zor = the same thing, but the (powermad) alien races controlling him could be interchanged with the power-mad humans in LOTR who didn't want to throw the ring away in previous generations because they still crave the power it can provide them. I think Hugo Weaving would be a good Zor. Just think of robotech trilogy being like a LOTR trilogy but with space, aliens, and robots instead of strange lands, variety of ancient extinct earth races, and knights in armour.

Someone mentioned a few pages ago that it would compress the robotech tv series into a tiny space and this would never capture the depth of RT. Well tv series move slowly so that's why I suggested that if the movie is a success they could recreate the robotech universe with a new robotech series (coming after the movie) that actually fixes up all the bad things about robotech like the protoculture weed that was being smoked in the mckinney novels, the thinking cap which is lazy control device so they don't have to explina how the robot moves, the pink skin of rick hunter from the Shadow chronicles comics, the songs (get some proffessionals to do this), etc...and do it all properly and call that the robotech canon. (good voice actors for the toon) It would be like a new mospeada so I can buy the alpha and beta cheap alongside transformers toys. The japanese have thier gundam show and don't care about 20 year old stuff anymore. Robotech is your only hope of getting some proper toys. As much as people on this board don't like to admit it, the truth is that: Robotech is coming to the rescue of all the mospeada fans who are angry that they are getting old and are a tiny group of cranky fans who have to pay inflated prices for toys of the mecha from that franchise, because only collector toy companies are bothering to make stuff. I mean think of it this way: being able to buy an alpha fighter from the robotech universe (as opposed to from mopspeada series) wouldn't be much different from buying jetfire (from transformers in the 80s) and pretending it was the VF-1 (from macross). So for me, if I can get a robotech alpha (based on the movies or new cartoon) that doesn't break I'll be happy. I'll just mod it and buy some stickers and say that it's the legioss. I mean if hollywood got away with Lion King, why can't HG do it for macross/mospeada/SC? If robocop and the matrix can take stuff from japan without much hassle why not HG? Honestly? I don't care about the vf-1 that much now, (it's been done to death by so many companies) I just want my mass-produced-but-high-quality legioss which goes about the price of a 20th anniversary prime. HG can then sever ties with macross universe since nobody flies in the old veritechs anymore, and they can just say that the old tv series was an alternate universe. It only really existed in the mind of a protoculture-weed-smoker's imagination and they woke up from the dream and are going to stop taking drugs and now the new robotech is the real world, not the combining of unrelated stories. (they might even be able to say that it was a borg-like world computer that generated the dreams like the thing in Megazone 23 or the matrix) And then.. they can bring this new robotech series to japan rebadged as a new Mospeada and then all the japanese collectors can buy the legios and tread. (they can relabel the toys from robotech to mospeada ones) Everyone will get what they want: -mospeada fans can have a new anime series based on footage from Nu-robotech -macross fans can stop worrying about robotech universe being too related to SDF:Macross universe in the designs -the toys (haven't you wanted a cheap ride armor?) -the existing RT fans get their live action movie which will tie everything together properly. -you can throw out the 50 million different versions of the robotech dvds that they made.

It's not too bad. Just don't compare it to macross plus by thinking about it so much. Relax, sit back and enjoy the movie. It's not art.

If they could do it that way, that would be great. I just got this idea that if the movie was actually really good, more important to robotech than the cartoon ever was, then it would mean that robotech canon could be transferred from the toon version to the live action movie version of events since all the exposure to that would mean they no longer have to pander to the tiny fanbase of the toons from the 80s, and instead have a wider audience now that they can recreate the whole universe proper. (maybe then make a new RT cartoon that takes after the movie universe in designs and characters. This would be like RT rebooted for the new generation of fans) And yeah I agree just because anime hasn't turned out so great brought to live action yet, there is always a first time for everything. Maybe they could have a message at the start of the movie with "Dedicated to all pioneers.." at the start just as in injoke to piss off the "negative macross purist" trying to destroy the robotech fans' hopes of a good movie. You know I just hope they don't make robotech too much like independance day. I don't want an ID4-type tone for it where humans can say with pride that they are kicking arse when in reality it's the opposite and the earth got destroyed. It's more closer to war of the worlds where the aliens have this huge upper hand and the only reason they haven't blown the stupid little ship up yet is because of the magic battery thing inside it which is supposed to be far more important than killing the little people. It's just a story about being stalked for 1 year and the humans are lucky that the aliens are dumb-asses due to the mind control so they are distracted by all kinds of human activity not to do with war/killing which slowly breaks the aliens will. A single ship filled with the worlds culture can't hope to defeat so many just with force alone. (although with the grand cannon they got close) It's got to be a movie about freeing the mind-controlled slaves as much as it is about blowin poo up to heroically protect people from danger, if you know what I mean. War is bad, love/peace is good.

There are still anime aimed at kids. It just that the different cultures have different ideas of what's harmful to children. In japan you can buy the toy guns, but there is a political movement in the US that says guns are dangerous and we shouldn't glorify violence so effort is made to tone gun violence down to appease the anti-gun groups. But part of that is because of the lack of control and restraint of people in the country right? (crime rate is high but in japan it is low so it's not a problem to order a toy gun which looks realistic) If the crime wasn't high maybe they would have a more relaxed attitude and wouldn't scapegoat the gun as the cause of violence. (when the real cause is somewhere else, because without guns it would just turn into knife violence, bashing people over the head with club violence, strangulation with a rope violence etc etc) But in japan: some of the hentai is censored. And it gets uncensored in the US. So different cultures have different ideas about what is harmful. And yes even though hypocrisy exists in the real world (people are quite happy to kill stuff if it benefit the government) little kids are somehow more delicate and you don't want to scare the crap out of them. Just like when you were a little kid you might have been scared of the dark, scared of the neighbours dogs, frightened by the belief in ghost stories, images in horror movies etc You are more innocent and naive at that age and parents don't want to cause fear so they worry about the psycological affects on the mind at long term. So you wouldn't just let them see a violent movie like Saw Or Hostel. Difference is that with religion, like different cultures you may find that people have different ideas about what is harmful. It would be rude to eat a beef burger in front of a hindu wouldn't it? Because they think cows are sacred and stuff. A person at a nudist colony might not have issues with nudity where a religios person might not have issues with violence. (in the case of the crucifixion you could argue it is a type of torture porn) It's not a problem with religion so much as difference in opinion about what is harmful to people. The intent is to protect you from harm but like with the differences in culture, this is going to be inconvenient to those who feel no harm to exposure to that thing. Say I come from a land where killing yourself for your boss if you fail to accomplish the task on time is normal. Most people on earth would find that horrible. But is that so different from say the ritual suicide in japan. Again it comes back to differences in opinion of whats harmful. A lot of it is just ignorance. Like with fears about guns and how it can make you a mass killer, porn turning you into a rapist, rock music making you evil, games making you into a violent criminal (Jack Thompson loves to talk to you about that) etc etc It's called creating a convenient scapegoat to hide the real issues. (take your attention away from the economy, distract you from a scandal, get you to hate a specific group, encourage you to pay a tax (we all know what gore's global warming thing is going to be about: carbon tax) and many other hidden agendas. Fear can even be used in business to create panic and get people to sell things cheaply or ask for more money from buyers who value the product/service more after a little scaring. (The GTA games on PSP have a nice jab at the Y2K scares of the late 90s )

Actually some people do that to themselves but don't feel shame in it. It's assumed that if you are in Information Tech, know programming, and are obsessed with gadgets and buying lot of electronics and caring about specs, and read wired magazine, and watch science fiction, you are a geek. ....despite being fit and healthy and involved in sports, and keep an active lifestyle too. But it's not necessarily bad like in the 70s where pcs were just coming around into the home, (computers were very mysterious and not everyone had one) or how in the 80s dungeouns and dragons was demonised by the religious as encouraging children to get into magick and worshipping satan and growing up to become witches or whatever. Being a nerd in a way is similar to being being accused by your parents as being bad for listening to rock music. Some people wear that label with pride. It's a generational thing. Over time you will see people loosen up and relax once they realise there is nothing to fear and that their opinions change. (with a bit of educating from friends of theirs who are the things they label, but proving to actually be good people) People generally need to label things but the labels don't always have to be taken negatively even if that was the original intent when first used. Everytime you used the term "Anime Fan" for example, it assumes that anime itself is a subgenre of other types of animation and isn't just part of the big umbrella of animated story. Like there is somehow a massive difference between watching a walt disney animated movie and an anime one when it's basically the same idea: they are animated. Why highlight that one IS different and say your a fan of that? Why not just say "I'm a fan of animation" (not just anime?) Oh and before someone says "one is aimed at kids", that might not be true, because you can have animated stories that appear to a general audience and interest adults too that are not anime. For example the shrek movies which take the piss out of all the popular fairy tales we recognise as kids but which are like an adult take on them. By having that distinction, and a new label, "anime", it makes people want to know what IS anime? It calls it to attention where just saying it's a "foreign animated story" and then mentioning the theme of the story itself. "An animated movie with science fiction, action and mystery." Having the label "anime" doesn't really add much to the layperson. You should be more interested in the genre. So if your GF loves romantic comedies, do you really need to know it's "anime" or be a "fan of anime" to be interested? No, just that it's worth watching, that it's good, and that the genre is of interest. Anime isn't a seperate subgenre that you should label it anime when you can just say animated. So in that sense, people who watch it, are themselves USING the labels to seperate themselves. Fans are "fanatics". But you hear the word "Fans" everyday and don't think of a fan as being fanatical in a bad sense anymore do you? So as much as we can lay blame on society, the people that want to market or promote the stuff are as guilty of trying to use labels/buzzwords too by assuming that "only people interested in...[insert genre, age gap, sex, level of education] " will like and appreciate the thing they are trying to sell. But I can watch anime and not be a "fan of anime" to like it. And not because "it's anime" but because the animated form of a popular story with great story and depth interests me. But those marketing it will print on the box: one of the most popular anime of all time... assuming we care about "anime" and not the story. See what I mean? So it's like as much as you want to remove these labels, it also means you lose detail about what you are talking about if you don't say what type of animation. (the foreign made stuff made for forieng audience or local made stuff for locals) If I watch an animated movie or a tv series, whether it was anime or not anime has never been something to think about or for me to pay special attention to. Whether it is foreign or not doesn't affect whether I would be interested in it. To me the label "anime fan" is out of date and suggests that someone who is a watcher of anime watches everything when it is impossible to do that. It is as vague as saying "I like music and am a fan of music". Yeah but what type? Better to just say: " I like metal, rap, rock, pop etc" to be specific. Nobody cares about the "liking music" part, because very little people listen everything out there. Usually you would just state the type and be done with it.

They censored the guns in Gundam Seed and turned them into disco blasters instead. Similar to the change of the guns in ET to walkie talkies. Kiddfied! They just want to make more money and let it be watchable by a wider audience. Like how diehard 4 was made PG. $$$$ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing_of_an...an_distribution

I'll sum it up: wachowski's and the matrix. Ripped off the cyberpunk scifi animes like ghost in the shell and also copied dragonball z and akira (for the fighting bits?) Robocop ripped off anime. Terminator, aliens, blade runner might have influenced Bubblegum crisis a little bit. Although the boomers are more organic not just mechanical. Astro boy is just pinocio with robot body. (the whole soul inside a robot theme) Lion King? urgh lets not even go there since that one is obvious lol. Robotech? HG kinda sorta wants to take credit and say it's something they made. In summary: they rip off each other so they are even. What matters is if the shows are good not who ripped off who. The japanese transformer cartoons aren't as good as the us ones for example. Many japanese robot shows have limited shortcuts and repetitive sequences reused over and over again, where you don't see that in american cartoons. (audience in the us seems to have a higher standard for smoothness for their cartoons imo) I'd also like to mention there was this one episode I saw of Totally Spies a while ago that had exact clones of the Hardsuits from bubblegum crisis. So dodgy!

I'd probably say no to a fire valkyrie. Didn't like the idea of faces on mecha to be honest or a guitar that controls a robot. Heh.

Thanks for the pics. Hopefully when this is all finished and everyone buys them, they consider going back to SDF:Macross (vf-1?) or macross 7 toys, upgrading them for today's collectors. (make them 1/60 this time of course) edit: no forget vf-1, so sick of that now! lol Just put effort into a blazer valk and vf-17. Maybe do vf-11C with full armor last.

I voted yes. After this they could do another macross zero mecha like an octos (assuming they haven't got a vf-0d planned?)