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Bingo. As for the question on who was the Anti-UN. Lots of people. And it probably wasn't a single entity. Look at the SV-51 (Sukhoi/Israel Aircraft Industries/Dornier SV-51). Sukhoi (Russian), Israel Aircraft Industries (Israel), Dornier (Germany). You have elements of many major nations in the UN (namely Soviet Russia, and West Germany). And with outbreaks all over the world (Even in the Americas, guerilla warfare did break out), you have Anti-UN elements within the UN. So it becomes hard to pinpoint who was on which side.

I'm surprised...someone actually remembered. And I think I have the wallscroll of that pic....

Not in a combat situation. Nicol turned it off to use the Mirage Colloid system on Blitz and see how much trouble it broght him? In most situations, you would want PS-armor on. Imagine restarting your car at every signal/intersection/etc. It's not efficent nor is it something that you want to do. Now imagine you're being shot at, would you want your car coming to a complete stop, shutting down, then restarting the engine at every intersection? No. The other option is Trans-Phase armor. But since ZAFT probably doesn't have TP technology, they might as well optimize PS-technology (But even then, TP-armor can't be using a shutdown/startup routine, it has to use a stand-by/start-up routine to power-up the armor since it has to have a short reaction time). IIRC, their idea was to launch it out into space, in a combat situation, in a straight line and pray for the best. Those are not good odds. They had no choice and from what I can tell, everybody thought the idea was crazy. Also the Striker packs use hardpoints on the shoulders, arms and back. Those are lots of pieces to be aware of. Hence, the Sky Graspers. But even that idea was still subject to problems. Since it's a completely manual process, both pilots would have to have worked out the routine enough to know how and when to drop each piece at the right time. The Silhouete system uses single back mounted packs with their own engine (i.e. their own flight system, only the Aile Striker pack had this feature). The delievry system is also done via a UAV (no need for a pilot or a expensive fighter to drop off the packs). The system may be more complex, but it is also much safer and less prone to user error.

Don't know. http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/anti_un...sv51/index.html

Well see.... Anyways, word from the grapevine indicate Saviour is going to be coming in 2 weeks and with the fall of Junius 7 coming up (also in 2 weeks), I wouldn't be surprised with Freedom coming up so soon. I assume Freedom will be with ORB. Like hell Kira would join EA or ZAFT. Wonder who rebulit it.... BTW, Gunota has a few other tidbits: - back-to-back episodes on Dec. 25 (5:30PM - 6:30PM). - Vol. 1 DVD (R2) is coming January 24, 2005. - Mika Arisaka (of Infinite Ryvius fame) will be singing the 2nd ending theme. Actually, it Rey and Lunarmaria are assigned to Minerva so they are very aware of Impulse's capabilities. Or at least they better be aware of it.

A couple other reasons are pilot survivability, modular component replacement if damage is beyond repair, or perhaps more. (See V Gundam) . After pondering it last night (had to give my head something else to think about rather than the election ) another reason would be to prolong the use of the PS armor. By sending the parts to the combat zone, and activating the PS-armor there, you can conserve the battery. Most MS with PS-armor deployed the system immediately after exiting the ship. If you factor in flight time to the combat zone with PS-armor on, it would probably show some drain on the battery. If we could delay the use of the PS-armor, the MS could have a slightly larger charge to the battery when it enters combat. And since the Sillouete packs have various requirements on the battery, it would make sense to find a way to delay the use of the PS-armor. The idea behind the Sillouette packs are illustrated in episode 2. If the need to change equipment becomes necessary during combat, the Sillouette packs can be deployed quickly. Strike was not intended to have that capability (Sky Graspers had to be built to accomodate that ability and even then, there had to be a lot of planning for the equipment swap procedure. With Impulse, all Shin needs to do is call up Minerva and request a package). The Zakus are much like Strike in this case. A Zaku can't change it's armament upon leaving the ship. And unless you wish to develop a Sillouete package for a Zaku (which is probably what Impulse was designed for), hope that what you take with you is what you need. Saviour would have to launch fairly compacted to launch out of the dorsal catapult. I'm guessing the wingspan and the plasma guns in their forward position would make it a tad large for that catapult.

Which is why I'm saying the whole "Mayans come from fish" myth is just that, a myth.

Cuz the other stories aren't about them. And I still say that whole Mayans came from fish, etc. is just part of their myth.

Hummm........ Protoculture made AFOS. Protoculture made the "Evil Series" (which would later be inhabited and permanently become the Protodevlin). I think that pretty much answers that.... http://www.anime.net/macross/story/chronol...0000/index.html

I think it boils down to a "he said/she said" arguement.

That's a matter of opinion... One's junk is another's treasure.

Yes. Ummmm, no. For generalization purposes for the VF, we include the boosters and weapon systems as part of the entire set (even though we really shouldn't) since it would be easier to explain to many people (in a few instances, weapon and additional systems are built in to the FAST packs). FAST packs really are just what they stand for. Fuel and sensor pods. Refer to Noyhauser's note about different requirements for different environments. At that point, the FAST pack package they had (Super parts for just the legs) was all that was built for the VF-0 (that all they thought would be needed). But since they needed more thrust and more weapons, the flight crews added on the additional missile launchers (located on the dorsal side above dorsal fuel tanks) and the Ghost booster. That was a field modification. Not a prototype FAST/Super pack prototype. Actually I could argue it for both. The VF-0 was a tad underpowered. So to compensate for it, we see its Super parts. However, since it was such a nifty idea, the idea also served as a test to the VF-1. Conceptually, a VF-0 and VF-1 are pretty close. Actually, the Anti-UN got the VF data when DD defected to the Anti-UN (see here). And if the SV-51 was deployed already, you would have to bet that the UN needed to counter that threat. edit: can't spell.....

I think we're just misunderstanding each other.... Conceptually, yes. Practically, no. That would sort of fall under the catagory of no. The missile pods that they mounted on could be used by any later VF but those are just weapon systems, which any VF or normal fighter could probably use. So that would fall under no. The Ghost booster was definitely a no. ....Yeah I could agree with that. I would seriously doubt that. Test equipment for a VF-0, concept for a VF-1.

But those were FAST packs. They're on practically every VF we've seen so I would hardly call them those things VF-1 prototypes.

Actually, it sounds like the whole system was a field improvision than a prototype. The flight crew basically strapped all of these options on in a matter of hours. They needed a booster so they strapped on a light-weight Ghost (slightly lighter without most of the computers on it). The missile pods were extra weapon systems they were testing and they needed more missiles than the FAST packs could carry so they attached those as well. It may appear conceptually that this specification is what led to the VF-1's FAST packs but in this instance, this sounds more like a field improvision. I truly doubt this was a prototype system.

I think Roy didn't become a womanizer until after Aries' death. Roy has always been a womanizer. But at that moment, he's got his attention on Aries. And whoever said Shin was a womanizer?

Or so as their myth says.... Actually, I think that honor fell solely on the Nome family. Mao would have been next in line should Sara have died before AFOS was awakened. Mao would have been able to trigger it if something dramatic happened. But Mao was incapacitated and the turn of events favored Sara. But the sequence of events, if you could call it that, probably began when Sara met Dr. Hasford when Sara was younger.

Probably. So no more SV-52.

... I left you speechless... Were you thinking of me naked or something? That leaves most people speechless. Please keep your warped thoughts to yourself. I, for one, don't need to know them. (Actually I was responding to what you and the guy I quoted below you said in that post in 1 easy sentence as opposed to seperate replies) Yep. Perhaps....why do you have a problem with that?

More like, we don't do speculation (i.e. what should be the next Macross, what's the next VF, what really happened to person X etc, etc, etc) in this thread, period.

That's probably what the reason behind it becoming part of the fanchise (can't recall off hand). Anyways.... It was an F-14....... Well as Chief Nakajima said, it''s love.

Various spots. Can't remember where. I think Egan mentioned it once at a con, it was mentioned in a book, but I can't recall. The concept of M+ itself wasn't suppose to be part of the Macross franchise (this was in the planning stages of M+ ; pre-pre-pre-pre-production so it wasn't a last minute thing). The story concept, IIRC, was the same, 2 pilots, a girl, 2 prototype fighters, etc, etc, etc. Then Kawamori changed his mind (probably since it was the 10th anniversary of Macross) and made it part of the Macross franchise.

Good point. However, given the scope of what Macross Plus was originally (Remember, it wasn't suppose to be part of Macross originally) I won't read into M+ that much. But then again, I don't see AFOS really testing humanity as much as I see it teaching humanity it's final lesson. In addition, Claudia doesn't really give us dates. We are working off visual cues in the scene. In the original SDFM, the ranks of UN were wearing those funny uniforms, yet when we go to M0, Roy, Shin, Edgar, and all those pilots were wearing flight suits from our time.

Please see the entry for the VF-0. http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_.../vf0/index.html There are 2-seat versions for the VF-0A, which is what the VF-0B from Hasagawa is (until otherwise noted). Read: http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_.../vf0/index.html VF-17D is not a 2-seater.

2) The Varauta system is in the vicinity of the "center of the galaxy". It is also the area where Megaroad-01 is believed to have disappeared. But considering that the "center of the galaxy" is a huge area to cover and is vastly unexplored by humans, they could be anywhere or not even there.