Montarvillois Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I just purchased the Aliens 1/72 scale, diecast UD-4L Cheyenne Dropship with the APC. I was wondering if anyone here got this bird and can comment on it. I've always been a huge fan of the Cheyenne and I just can't wait to put my hands on this one. Here's a few pictures (not mine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat S Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I ordered the limited edition APC and Dropship from HLJ, it was ready to ship on July 5th if I remember right. I still haven't received it. Looks great though, can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 While that looks cool, it is a bit expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobob77 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I can't wait to hear some more reviews of this thing. I have to be pretty well convinced this thing is worth the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I must say the end result has certainly warmed me to the product. It is a tad expensive and the missile racks aren't exactly what I'd hoped for, but the pictures of the final version are very impressive. I like the details and the look of the machine. Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Kune_Do Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 So does the standard issue just includes the Marines and Pilots? (How many figures) Does the Limited Edition also include the marines and the aliens? - Jin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesonme78 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Just got mine yesterday was so nicely weathered love it like mad anyway, for mine, it was with the marines pilot.. ha.. that is nice anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Ordered the Dropship and the APC. Can't wait. This has given me the urge to read through the Colonial Marines Technical Manual again. Fantastic book. If you're an Aliens fan and you don't own it, you're really missing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) Ordered the Dropship and the APC. Can't wait. This has given me the urge to read through the Colonial Marines Technical Manual again. Fantastic book. If you're an Aliens fan and you don't own it, you're really missing out. 313136[/snapback] What's in it? Edited July 22, 2005 by Gaijin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT 1010 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 What's in it? The Aliens Colonial Marines Technical Manual is a book that focuses on the marines and their equipment from the movie. It's really interesting. The book talks about the guns, vehicles and equipment you see in the movie (and some you didn't. It has a lot of Extended Universe stuff too). It's considered by many to be the Aliens Bible. Unfortunately, it's been out of print for years and it's usually not that cheap (they're around $50). If you can find one, I highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) Well VT 1010 is basically right about the book. Aliens Colonial Marines Technical Manual is basically all about the USCMC from the movie Aliens. It contains numerous full color photos of the props and large photos of the full sized mock-ups; including the actual working APC from the film. You'll also find large cross section drawings of the UD-4L Dropship and the USS Sulaco, as well as three-view schematics of the UD-4L Dropship, USS Sulaco, and the M577 APC. While the focus is on the three most prominent pieces of military hardware we see in the films, the book also features details on the extended universe equpiment of the USCMC, including sniper rifles, rocket launchers, tanks, space suits, and more. There are also pictures and scehmatics on synthetics and power loaders. What seperates this book from most other fan books is the thought and effort that went into creating the descriptive text and technical analysis. The book goes into detail you'd find in modern military texts, talking about everything from design purpose, limitations, logistics, cost, effectiveness, combined arms, and all the factors of military hardware you'd expect to see considered in a proper dossier. While it's not flawless, author Lee Brimmicombe-Wood presents a work which is on par with fictional technical authors like Curtis Saxton and is about the best a fan can ever expect from this franchise. As has been mentioned before, the book is somewhat hard to find. The Aliens Colonial Marines Technical Manual was published in 1996, a decade after the 1986 film and well past time the popular culture hype had disappeared from public notice. As a result, it had a relatively low initial print run. I personally wasn't even aware the book existed until the late 1990's, mostly thanks to internet access and investigation on my part. It is no longer in print and you must find it via eBay, various online new&used traders, and used books stores. However, I only purchased my copy (in near-mint condition) about two years back, so you can still obtain it. Here's a link to the details Aliens Colonial Marines Technical Manual Edited July 22, 2005 by Mr March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 If anybody is interested in some of the "missing pages" from the Technical Manual, shoot me a PM. I think there's maybe 10 pages on my hard drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I bought my copy off the shelf of a Mall store bookseller in the late '90s in San Antonio. It sat on that shelf for months and I remember pulling it out and leafing through it a few times before buying it. It for some reason was jammed in with the D&D and Role Playing books. I still have it somewhere in a box with tons of my other books, I'll have to pull it out and read it again... it's been a while. Oh and Bsu SEND ME THOSE PAGES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Whoa! "Missing pages"? I have to know what those are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnurmin Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Just curious, how much does Aoshiima's dropship cost? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 You have to purchase the Dropship and APC seperately (at least from HobbyLink Japan). I've been hit with 16,600 yen total for the two, which is about $177.14 CAD or $145.37 USD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 They look awesome. Is there any word if these items will be available States side? Domestic release would be preferred...shipping from Japan is a killer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifand Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 The Dropship is an excellent display model, I got the 02 limited version. The detailing is top notch and the swing-open wings are very sturdy. Only minor downsides: 1. The landing gears do not retract. Separate 'closed' and 'deployed' gears are provided. This is probably due to the weight of the craft. 2. Cockpit is empty (understandable... but still, no Bishop!) and does not open. 3. With the APC loaded, its weight makes the ramp work smoothly, but sometimes the 4 arms will still catch on the slots inside the bay. Ramp works poorly when not loaded. 4. For the miniature figurines, whether Aliens or Marines, detailing is probably as good as it gets for such tiny figs - but are are basically PVC throwaways. Even the Queen. 5. The APC should have been included! It's way too expensive sold separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT 1010 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Whoa! "Missing pages"? I have to know what those are! My guess would be the articles in Aliens magazine that was done by the author of the technical manual. Am I correct bsu legato? BTW, are those the same ones that were posted on The Alien Legacy board? Also, I almost forgot, there's a place somewhere (I can't remember where) that has most of (can't remember if it had all the pages either...) technical manual for download. If anybody wants, I can try to dig up the link out of my long list of favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 okay, what are the differences between 01 and 02 exactly? my 02 is clean, has no pilot figures and comes with an alien queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 (edited) The Dropship is an excellent display model, I got the 02 limited version. The detailing is top notch and the swing-open wings are very sturdy. Only minor downsides:1. The landing gears do not retract. Separate 'closed' and 'deployed' gears are provided. This is probably due to the weight of the craft. 2. Cockpit is empty (understandable... but still, no Bishop!) and does not open. 3. With the APC loaded, its weight makes the ramp work smoothly, but sometimes the 4 arms will still catch on the slots inside the bay. Ramp works poorly when not loaded. 4. For the miniature figurines, whether Aliens or Marines, detailing is probably as good as it gets for such tiny figs - but are are basically PVC throwaways. Even the Queen. 5. The APC should have been included! It's way too expensive sold separately. 313356[/snapback] I'm okay with part swapping the Landing Skids. It would have been difficult to make gear that could support such a large diecast piece. Even from the limited pictures available on HLJ, it was clear the figures lacked any significant detail. Especially the small marine figures. I agree that this Dropship and APC is way too overpriced. As impressive as they are, they simply lack the detail one would expect to find in such an expensive product. For the kind of money you pay, the landing gear should be built-in for both retractable/extended modes, the APC should be included, the cockpit/pilot should be accessible, etc. Problem is, there just isn't any other option if you want a dropship. The old Halcyon model is way too delicate, the customs are too few, and this is about the only non-model version of which I'm aware (it's also the best looking I've ever seen). So like my Yamato Valkyrie, Aliens Tech Manual, and all my other small, meaningful but unique products, I'll have to shell out the cash to get this ship cause the time between such product releases are decades and I don't have the time to wait that long. Edited July 24, 2005 by Mr March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 okay, what are the differences between 01 and 02 exactly? my 02 is clean, has no pilot figures and comes with an alien queen. 313549[/snapback] Hmmm, I'd like to know this as well. I wasn't aware there was any significant differences, at least not as advertisied on any of the websites selling the dropships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 okay, what are the differences between 01 and 02 exactly? my 02 is clean, has no pilot figures and comes with an alien queen. 313549[/snapback] that's pretty much the difference... 01 is weathered and has a pilot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 dang! those differences are almost good enough reasons to get the 01 bird as well O.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 From what I have seen 01 is the Bug Stomper cheyenne with the APC that the marines fly down to LV-426. It is weathered because it is the primary service ship and it has had a few drops under it's wings. As we all know a critter gets aboard and eats Spunkmeyer then rips the head off of Ferro and the 01 Bug Stomper goes loose and smashes into the side of the Atmosphere Processor, hitting the derilict APC in the process. (This is the point Hudson says "Game over man! Game over!" ) The 02 Smartass cheyenne has no APC and it is stored in the Sulaco as the secondary back up dropper, hence why it is "brand new". This is the ship Bishop remote activates, preps and brings down to rescue them and is the same ship that secapes the atmosphere processor when it becomes a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska. From what I have seen of the two different toys they are quite accurate to these two cheyennes, sporting painted on Bug Stomper and Smartass decco. The Smartass even comes with the Queen, who stows abord in the rear gear bay. I just wish the Queen would have come with a tiny Bishop pilot that cut in half and that the Bug Stomper would have a little Ferro and Spunkmeyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinohara Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 These are differences between the two version Limited Dropship (02) clean paint job, with alien queen figure, no pilot Limited APC, clean paint job, with alien warrior figure Regular Dropship (01) weathered paint job, with pilot REgular APC, clean paint job, with couple marine figures Hope this help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 From what I have seen 01 is the Bug Stomper cheyenne with the APC that the marines fly down to LV-426. It is weathered because it is the primary service ship and it has had a few drops under it's wings. As we all know a critter gets aboard and eats Spunkmeyer then rips the head off of Ferro and the 01 Bug Stomper goes loose and smashes into the side of the Atmosphere Processor, hitting the derilict APC in the process. (This is the point Hudson says "Game over man! Game over!" )The 02 Smartass cheyenne has no APC and it is stored in the Sulaco as the secondary back up dropper, hence why it is "brand new". This is the ship Bishop remote activates, preps and brings down to rescue them and is the same ship that secapes the atmosphere processor when it becomes a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska. From what I have seen of the two different toys they are quite accurate to these two cheyennes, sporting painted on Bug Stomper and Smartass decco. The Smartass even comes with the Queen, who stows abord in the rear gear bay. I just wish the Queen would have come with a tiny Bishop pilot that cut in half and that the Bug Stomper would have a little Ferro and Spunkmeyer. 313616[/snapback] Makes sense. I like the attention that Aoshima paid to the film making these dropships. I have a friend who is just as big a fan of the Aliens series as I am. I'm gonna consider buying him a dropship for his birthday and I'll get him Unit 01. Thanks JsARCLIGHT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBebop Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Wow! You reminded me of the injection molded model kit I bought of the drop ship many moons ago. I started it, but never finished! It's somewhere in my stash of un-built models. Now if I can only get my hands on this, I can keep postponing my completing of my plastic replica! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 From what I have seen 01 is the Bug Stomper cheyenne with the APC that the marines fly down to LV-426. It is weathered because it is the primary service ship and it has had a few drops under it's wings. As we all know a critter gets aboard and eats Spunkmeyer then rips the head off of Ferro and the 01 Bug Stomper goes loose and smashes into the side of the Atmosphere Processor, hitting the derilict APC in the process. (This is the point Hudson says "Game over man! Game over!" )The 02 Smartass cheyenne has no APC and it is stored in the Sulaco as the secondary back up dropper, hence why it is "brand new". This is the ship Bishop remote activates, preps and brings down to rescue them and is the same ship that secapes the atmosphere processor when it becomes a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska. From what I have seen of the two different toys they are quite accurate to these two cheyennes, sporting painted on Bug Stomper and Smartass decco. The Smartass even comes with the Queen, who stows abord in the rear gear bay. I just wish the Queen would have come with a tiny Bishop pilot that cut in half and that the Bug Stomper would have a little Ferro and Spunkmeyer. 313616[/snapback] Makes sense. I like the attention that Aoshima paid to the film making these dropships. I have a friend who is just as big a fan of the Aliens series as I am. I'm gonna consider buying him a dropship for his birthday and I'll get him Unit 01. Thanks JsARCLIGHT 313626[/snapback] Still with all the attention they paid, you think they would have added a little bishop into the cockpit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Or at least given the Bug Stomper Ferro and Spunkmeyer... does the 01 pilot even look like a little Ferro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 (edited) Or at least given the Bug Stomper Ferro and Spunkmeyer... does the 01 pilot even look like a little Ferro? 313687[/snapback] Given the lack of detail with the marine and alien figures, I doubt there's any resemblance with the possible exception of the pilot's outfit. Edited July 25, 2005 by Mr March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I wish they would have made the dropper big enough to have a little Ferro with "Fly the Friendly Skies" on her helmet. At least give her character a bit more exposure... she lasted all of ten minutes in the film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I wish they would have made the dropper big enough to have a little Ferro with "Fly the Friendly Skies" on her helmet. At least give her character a bit more exposure... she lasted all of ten minutes in the film. 313900[/snapback] Such is to be the fate of the flat character in a horror flick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I wish they would have made the dropper big enough to have a little Ferro with "Fly the Friendly Skies" on her helmet. At least give her character a bit more exposure... she lasted all of ten minutes in the film. 313900[/snapback] what would really be awsome would be a 1/12 drop ship with a full crew. Radio controlled flight mode, real launching missiles and special explosion action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Hell I'd be satisfied with a 1/18 dropper... and the crew is really only Ferro and Spunkmeyer, everyone else would come with the 1/18 scale APC with remote control action! Now that I think about it a 1/18 scale Cheyenne would be about the size of my pool table... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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