Valk009 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Wow...very impressive! Can't wait to get one of those, keep up the good work John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain america Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Hi Sean. I get my modelling board here http://www.mfcomposites.com/ You can work the Ren Shape with any milling machine or lathe, as well as a dremel for removing large volumes. You can then very easily sand it with regular sandpaper for fine finishing. Just so that you know, the dust put off by the material is toxic, so you'll need a mask to work it. You can get a relatively good finish on the parts, but as it's still technically somewhat porous, you will need to seal it with primer prior to molding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytwolf Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Sweet, thanks for the info John! Man, you're one hell of a modeler though Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobywan Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Just so that you know, the dust put off by the material is toxic, so you'll need a mask to work it. What are the side effects of prolonged Ren dust exposure? I wonder if my constant colds are a result of my work environment. There are so many things wrong with my work area. I can't even start. I can't wait to see the finnished patterns on this booster. I am totally stoked that we are going to get master craftsmanship on this Macross kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Pinche Haro! Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 that's simply beautiful!!!!... i think i wet myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain america Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Hi Coby. From what I've seen, the short-term effects of breathing modelling-board dust is quite simply... The sniffles. That's not quite as harmless as it sounds though, as when you blow your nose, you'll see that the stuff accumulates rather fast. Over the long term, you may begin to exhibit breathing problems and/or develop a hacking cough from constant accumulation of dust in your lungs. I see that a lot with veteran model-makers and body-shop workers. There may or may not be other hazzards related to the dust, but personally, I plan to NOt find that out firsthand... I always wear a mask. Your constant colds may be a result of exposure to chems in the workplace, or, silly as it sounds, you may also have a problem with fungus. Most people worry so much about the industrial-strength goo, that they overlook simple things like mold, that can be every bit as hazzardous if not more so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeo-mare Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 a definete work of art, any chance for a 1/48 Yamato Compatible version? i cannot wait to see this thing painted chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 What are the side effects of prolonged Ren dust exposure? I wonder if my constant colds are a result of my work environment. There are so many things wrong with my work area. I can't even start. Dude, where a mask!!! Back when I was finishing my ID degree, I developed a nasty allergy to the particles from modeling foam (the cheap-o 5-10 lb stuff). I got lazy and stopped wearing my respirator because it was the end of the semester & everything was crazy.. multiple days with no sleep, working on final presentations & models, etc. (Anyone that has gone through a design program worth it's salt has experienced this. ) Anyhow, it got to the point where as soon as I came near that foam and smelled it, my throat would pinch up & I couldn't breathe. Not a pleasant reaction, and not one you wanna have when you have to work with the stuff... Thankfully, it no longer affects me this way, but I learned my lesson: wear proper protective gear. Most modeling compounds and materials are toxic to some degree, and your health is way too important. If you were to make the same mistake laying up something like fiberglass, it could prove to be fatal. As for this project: SWEEEEET!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulcy Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 What are the side effects of prolonged Ren dust exposure? I wonder if my constant colds are a result of my work environment. There are so many things wrong with my work area. I can't even start.I can't wait to see the finnished patterns on this booster. I am totally stoked that we are going to get master craftsmanship on this Macross kit. Don't forget, I believe it was myersjessee who was laid up for a while, because he became sick from over exposure to just modeling resins and mold rubbers... You should always either work in a well ventilated area (at the least) and wear a protective mask (or use a respirator with changeable filters)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myersjessee Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Yep...that was me. The darn "cold" lasted for over a year and a half on and off...I finally had to have surgery...it turned out to be a sinus infection way up in my sinuses. My Dr said he had never seen one so bad. I can't blame it on the resins for sure...but I had never gotten a sinus infection before I started working with resins...and even now I'm not as healthy as I was. Im working in a better area though and wear masks (most of the time at least) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobywan Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Well this is Very informative. I may need to get a checkup and see what's going on. A 1/48th scale booster would be ginormous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neptunesurvey Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I just bought a respirator myself. I had a really nasty cough, cold early this year. It did not help me either that I had fly to Japan on business right as it was starting. Nothing like dry,plane air to make things worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytwolf Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 (edited) Just another quick question--to Monkey-Nugget this time--I know the Zent fighter pod was a Big West approved licenses product, is the valk booster? I'm not usually a stickler for this sort of thing, but I don't know what sort of legal issues exist for garage kits for Macross in North America, as HG owns all merch rights correct? Just wondering, mostly because I would like to release a Macross kit of my own and don't know how/if I could get it licensed or if I should just do it under the radar.... Hope I didn't kill the mood Sean [on edit: if I could type I'd be golden ] Edited August 1, 2004 by whytwolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobywan Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Wonderfest licensing is an event only deal. Anybody can get the license for the event if you are attending and can get the approval of said license holders. The license doesn't extend out of the sales room and I think there is a limit to the number of items you can sell there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobywan Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 HG is toothless and if you are making 20 of an item for a $10 profit then they wont bother you. The only reason John stopped the Legioss is because he tried to get a proper license and they gave him a CnD when he guaged the interest in the kit. If you don't advertise your product in a magazine it probably wont be an issue. It wasn't for me and I made 40 Lancer II kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robokochan Posted August 1, 2004 Author Share Posted August 1, 2004 Thanks for answering cobywan he is right they are only for one day events. You can get a license but it takes about 3 to 6 months. You have to pay the royalties to Big West up front before you sell any kits. Basically what you do is get a sub-license from a company that has a long term license. You submit a sample to them, tell them how many you plan to sell and at what price. They look it over and tell you what changes need to be made. If they approve it then youpay the royalties to them and then you get your stickers. Basically you just have to jump through alot of hoops. Also if memory serves BW only allows 10 sub-licenses for Macross per event. And yes I hope to get the Booster licensed as well for WF Winter 2005. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007-vf1 Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Basically you just have to jump through alot of hoops. Also if memory serves BW only allows 10 sub-licenses for Macross per event. And yes I hope to get the Booster licensed as well for WF Winter 2005. Rob We will keep crossing our fingers so it works for you..I think you have gone through a lot to helps us out...you deserve the opportunity.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernarias Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I have a question, is this booster being designed with the Hasegawa fighter in mind or with the Hasegawa Strike/Super variant? F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayson72 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Well it's a combination of both actually, it's designed to fit a regular fighter but with the bent knee joint from the super. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyhauser Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 In the same vein as the question above, will a Super Ostrich be able to fill in? I've never been a fan of the variant and I'd like to use the model for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayson72 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 In the same vein as the question above, will a Super Ostrich be able to fill in? I've never been a fan of the variant and I'd like to use the model for it. Super O uses the same parts at the knee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain america Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Hi guys, I'm exhausted... Time for an update To answer Noyhauser's question, I really don't know, as I don't have a super O kit. It may very well fit with some veeeery minor modification to the center fuselage on the booster. The booster is designed to accept a VF-1 with its backpack deployed "atmospheric" mode and its V-tails flat. Anyway, onto the pics... As you can see, the once flat blocks of modelling board have now been fleshed-out into a more familiar form. My webcam's lens produces a tremendous fish-eye effect on objects that I shoot from a short distance, and as a result, makes the booster look much more slender than it really is; it's actually spot-on with the side-view Rob posted at the beginning of the thread. All the parts fit perfectly, and tolerances are being kept tight. As Valkyrie had noticed earlier on, the foreward, upper tips of the booster will need to be cut-back and enlarged... I left them longer for the time being, as I'll need to adjust that entire area to conform precisely to the Hasegawa kit's surface. In a nutshell, things are going exactly as planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain america Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Pic 2 of 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain america Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 (edited) 3 of 4. Edited August 2, 2004 by captain america Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain america Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Last pic... For now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007-vf1 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 AWESOME...!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myersjessee Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Man oh man John...your flying through it...Im so envious of your skills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobywan Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I'm envious of hit tools. I wish I had my own shop to work in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayson72 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 I'm envious of hit tools. I wish I had my own shop to work in. Hey you did a great job on the Lancer without a big shop. I'm still waitin' for another great 1/72 model from ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayson72 Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Man oh man John...your flying through it...Im so envious of your skills! It's a good thing I don't have his skills, if I did I wouldn't do anything but make my own collection of obscure Macross models, then I'd really be in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robokochan Posted August 3, 2004 Author Share Posted August 3, 2004 Simply amazing! I am speechless. That Booster is a work of art! excellent work John! Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayson72 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Simply amazing! I am speechless. That Booster is a work of art! excellent work John!Rob You gotta be excited and relieved Rob, progress and pictures to prove it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batou Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 (edited) This looks just complely unbelievable so far, John. Outstanding. I'm only waiting for payday to make my contribution. Any idea as to how much this sucker is going to cost us when all is said and done? I love the idea of that launch vehicle, too, but I'm afraid it might make the price a little out of reach for some of us - from the pics I'm looking at in Perfect Memory, that addition would make this one BIG kit. I'm in either way. Edited August 3, 2004 by Batou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain america Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Hi Batou. Actually, Rob is the one handling the marketing aspect of the model, so would be the one to best answer your question regarding price. However, I can assure you that it'll be cheaper than a japanese kit of similar detail/size. As for the launch vehicle, we both decided that precisely for cost purposes, we would market them as separate kits; basically give people a chance to save-up for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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