Seto Kaiba Posted Wednesday at 03:36 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:36 AM 3 hours ago, Chronocidal said: Honestly.. if we're going with Palpatine surviving, there's no reason Ben didn't. After all, he just fell over and disappeared. Not like he was dropped down a hole into a reactor that exploded, or anything. Nah, Kylo Ren/Ben Solo wasn't even a real Sith. He was basically Palpatine's unpaid intern. He ain't just gonna walk off death itself like everyone's favorite evil space wizard. Quote
Big s Posted Wednesday at 06:00 AM Posted Wednesday at 06:00 AM 2 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Nah, Kylo Ren/Ben Solo wasn't even a real Sith. He was basically Palpatine's unpaid intern. He ain't just gonna walk off death itself like everyone's favorite evil space wizard. Definitely not a Sith, he was. Knight of Ren and Stimpy or something Quote
Thom Posted Wednesday at 02:24 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:24 PM 12 hours ago, Froy said: There was a novel telling a history about Palpatine having a some clones around the galaxy and how siths "survived" by passing their essence into other living beings or even objects. Sadly Disney ditched all of that. At less they could have a explanation on the Palpatines return on the ROS and the history wouldn't have ended being a huge meme. All they had to do was completely refilm the Last Jedi to include Palpatine's resurrection, having that be the real story of the entire film, basically turning the entire opening crawl of RoS into its own screenplay. In fact, I consider the Last Jedi as a lost film that, when finally found, would seamlessly and without rush, tell a beautiful tale of the battle between good and evil. In another dimension... Quote
pengbuzz Posted Wednesday at 02:40 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:40 PM (edited) 8 hours ago, Big s said: Definitely not a Sith, he was. Knight of Ren and Stimpy or something Not mine, but funny all the same: Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3h87g5/knights_of_ren/ Edited Wednesday at 02:42 PM by pengbuzz Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Wednesday at 05:33 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:33 PM 3 hours ago, Thom said: All they had to do was completely refilm the Last Jedi to include Palpatine's resurrection, having that be the real story of the entire film, basically turning the entire opening crawl of RoS into its own screenplay. In fact, I consider the Last Jedi as a lost film that, when finally found, would seamlessly and without rush, tell a beautiful tale of the battle between good and evil. In another dimension... That'd make a pretty short film, wouldn't it? He dies, and his spirit inhabits a clone body and that's all she wrote. Pretty much the same as in those terrible old novels. He dies, his ghost goes to possess a new body that immediately starts falling apart because of his evil dark side magic, lather, rinse, and repeat. 2 hours ago, pengbuzz said: Not mine, but funny all the same: Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3h87g5/knights_of_ren/ That would've made the tantrums feel a bit less undignified. Quote
Dynaman Posted Thursday at 02:02 AM Posted Thursday at 02:02 AM The idea of such a pathetic whiny character getting another movie was even considered is a bad sign. Between his temper tantrums and admiral snivel the First Order was a joke at best. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Thursday at 05:40 AM Posted Thursday at 05:40 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, Dynaman said: The idea of such a pathetic whiny character getting another movie was even considered is a bad sign. Between his temper tantrums and admiral snivel the First Order was a joke at best. Nah, it's just a sign of Business as Usual at Disney LucasFilm. Bringing a character back from the dead unnecessarily for the sake of a hackneyed redemption arc and the promise of The Continuing Adventures is right up Dave Filoni's alley. So much so that it'd be like the third or fourth time he'd have pitched such a story in the last couple years. That was the entire premise of The Book of Boba Fett, bringing Boba's dusty arse back from being sarlacc chow to be a crime lord in name only who saves Mos Espa from the real crime lords. That was Asajj Ventress's story in Tales of the Underworld too, her coming back from the dead unable to go back to her old life and becoming an antihero. I kind of imagine the meeting worked out like that one Jimmy Neutron meme. "Dave, this is the third time you've pitched us a story about a lame and overhyped villain coming back from the dead to become a nominal good guy. Maybe get some new ideas? Ones that aren't demonstrably shite?" Edited Thursday at 05:42 AM by Seto Kaiba Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted Thursday at 07:20 AM Posted Thursday at 07:20 AM For me the franchise is over. Can`t believe after almost Five decades, loving it, then finished and even I gave and sold almost my SW collection. 😞 Its over. Quote
Thom Posted Thursday at 03:36 PM Posted Thursday at 03:36 PM (edited) 22 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: That'd make a pretty short film, wouldn't it? He dies, and his spirit inhabits a clone body and that's all she wrote. Pretty much the same as in those terrible old novels. He dies, his ghost goes to possess a new body that immediately starts falling apart because of his evil dark side magic, lather, rinse, and repeat. That would've made the tantrums feel a bit less undignified. Well, you fill it out, obviously, though maybe not the casino part, or the lame chase part, and you make a better training scene without crapping all over Luke, or killing Luke, and you give Finn a meaningful story line rather than some throw away crap, or... or.........🤷♂️ Edited Thursday at 03:37 PM by Thom Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Thursday at 09:22 PM Posted Thursday at 09:22 PM 5 hours ago, Thom said: Well, you fill it out, obviously, though maybe not the casino part, or the lame chase part, and you make a better training scene without crapping all over Luke, or killing Luke, and you give Finn a meaningful story line rather than some throw away crap, or... or.........🤷♂️ 😆 So the important bit is barely long enough to boil an egg and the rest is filler? This feels a lot like that suggestion that Star Wars's creative team use the World Between Worlds from Rebels to retcon the sequel trilogy out entirely... which would then require them to explain WTH the World Between Worlds even was, and feel like the same kind of cheap knee-jerk as what it replaced. Quote
Thom Posted Thursday at 11:27 PM Posted Thursday at 11:27 PM 2 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: 😆 So the important bit is barely long enough to boil an egg and the rest is filler? This feels a lot like that suggestion that Star Wars's creative team use the World Between Worlds from Rebels to retcon the sequel trilogy out entirely... which would then require them to explain WTH the World Between Worlds even was, and feel like the same kind of cheap knee-jerk as what it replaced. No, you work up to it. Done right, that opening crawl could fill two hours with total excitement! Quote
pengbuzz Posted Friday at 08:18 AM Posted Friday at 08:18 AM 8 hours ago, Thom said: No, you work up to it. Done right, that opening crawl could fill two hours with total excitement! I read that a little too quick and thought you said: 8 hours ago, Thom said: No, you work up to it. Done right, that opening crawl could fill two hours with total excrement! Quote
Big s Posted Friday at 08:36 AM Posted Friday at 08:36 AM 9 hours ago, Thom said: No, you work up to it. Done right, that opening crawl could fill two hours with total excitement! That has got to be the most epic opening crawl ever. Not sure if we get an intermission after those two hours before the movie actually starts or if the movie only has a two hour run time and credits just roll after the crawl Quote
Thom Posted Friday at 02:43 PM Posted Friday at 02:43 PM 5 hours ago, pengbuzz said: I read that a little too quick and thought you said: Nooooooooooooooooooo, you are twisting my words!! It's not too far off though! 5 hours ago, Big s said: That has got to be the most epic opening crawl ever. Not sure if we get an intermission after those two hours before the movie actually starts or if the movie only has a two hour run time and credits just roll after the crawl And what I mean is that the opening crawl has the seed of what Ep8 should have been. The Resistance still under assault, but with whispers of a powerful evil returning. getting rid of the stupid chase scene and the stupid bomber scene, have Kylo fire and try to kill Leia, have Finn and Co hunting down what turns out to be the rumors of Palpatine returning, with maybe them being the ones who find out and tell everyone, while having Luke maybe having been trapped by the darkness of the cave-thing for a few years in his hunt for ancient Jedi secrets and more than ready to train Rey, keep Kylo betraying Snoke and asking Rey to join him and ending with Palpatine appearing and Luke and Rey showing up just as the Resistance is about to be crushed and Kylo teaming up with Palpy (for the moment) to put the Resistance out of its misery, culminating and Luke and Leia teaming up to battle them with Luke giving Leia her saber, though both of them end up being injured as they buy time for the Resistance to escape. ROLL CREDITS! Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Friday at 05:51 PM Posted Friday at 05:51 PM 17 hours ago, Thom said: No, you work up to it. How does one work up to an event that's basically unrelated to the plot thus far, though? After all, the main criticism of Palpatine's return for The Rise of Skywalker is that "Somehow, Palpatine returned" comes out of nowhere. There's no sense that he was involved in any way with the goings on in The Last Jedi or The Force Awakens and it's clear that the First Order exists despite him rather than because of him. He was hiding out on Exegol making his own First Order with blackjack and hookers superlaser-spamming star destroyers and red stormtroopers. IMO, any way you shake it Palpatine's return was a stupid idea and all the sequel trilogy did was repeat the same mistakes that made reading pre-Disney EU books feel like picking over the contents of a skid full of medical waste. 17 hours ago, Thom said: Done right, that opening crawl could fill two hours with total excitement! Granted, two hours of reading slowly scrolling yellow text on a black background would be more exciting than The Last Jedi... 2 hours ago, Thom said: And what I mean is that the opening crawl has the seed of what Ep8 should have been. The Resistance still under assault, but with whispers of a powerful evil returning. IMO, that's just introducing unnecessary complexity in what's meant to be a fairly straightforward Good vs Evil narrative. There was already a powerful evil in the story in the form of Supreme Leader Snoke and his First Order. Why muddy the waters by introducing a second, unrelated one whose role amounts to being a walking plot hole? It would have made more sense to either A. not kill Snoke off in The Last Jedi so that he could be the Big Bad for the trilogy's final movie or B. make Kylo Ren a competent Dragon Ascendant whose soldiers actually fear and respect him instead of a comically serious tantrum-throwing manchild desperate for someone else to take the reins. Y'know what? I'm gonna garnish that last one with a hot take. Adam Driver was the worst casting decision in the sequel trilogy. I'm not saying he's a bad actor, just that he's not the right man for that role of Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren needed to be someone who could project a commanding and intimidating presence with or without the helmet, and Adam Driver just can't deliver that. His overall look is more "nerd" than "warrior" (he does great playing a comedic nerd like "Matt the Radar Technician") but he also has resting sadface, so his neutral expression makes him look like he's trying not to cry. That role needed someone with screen presence more like Ed Skrein or Michael Fassbender. Someone who can look vaguely unsettling and creepy and play "unhinged" very effectively. He's supposed to be an unstable person prone to flying into psychotic rages, but Driver's performance delivers something more like an angsty teenager throwing tantrums. If they'd had a more effective and appropriate actor for the role of Kylo Ren, they could have gotten away with offing Snoke in The Last Jedi and making Kylo Ren the main villain for The Rise of Skywalker. The return of Palpatine is 100% a vote of no confidence on Disney's part in Driver's ability to convincingly play a villain. No, I say the movie they should have made is a new menace from outside the galaxy! All those words flying through space for the opening crawl have to be going somewhere... and the extragalactic alien civilization being bombarded by all that excess verbiage should declare war on the Star Wars galaxy! 🙃 Quote
Thom Posted Friday at 07:35 PM Posted Friday at 07:35 PM 1 hour ago, Seto Kaiba said: How does one work up to an event that's basically unrelated to the plot thus far, though? After all, the main criticism of Palpatine's return for The Rise of Skywalker is that "Somehow, Palpatine returned" comes out of nowhere. There's no sense that he was involved in any way with the goings on in The Last Jedi or The Force Awakens and it's clear that the First Order exists despite him rather than because of him. He was hiding out on Exegol making his own First Order with blackjack and hookers superlaser-spamming star destroyers and red stormtroopers. IMO, any way you shake it Palpatine's return was a stupid idea and all the sequel trilogy did was repeat the same mistakes that made reading pre-Disney EU books feel like picking over the contents of a skid full of medical waste. Granted, two hours of reading slowly scrolling yellow text on a black background would be more exciting than The Last Jedi... IMO, that's just introducing unnecessary complexity in what's meant to be a fairly straightforward Good vs Evil narrative. There was already a powerful evil in the story in the form of Supreme Leader Snoke and his First Order. Why muddy the waters by introducing a second, unrelated one whose role amounts to being a walking plot hole? It would have made more sense to either A. not kill Snoke off in The Last Jedi so that he could be the Big Bad for the trilogy's final movie or B. make Kylo Ren a competent Dragon Ascendant whose soldiers actually fear and respect him instead of a comically serious tantrum-throwing manchild desperate for someone else to take the reins. Y'know what? I'm gonna garnish that last one with a hot take. Adam Driver was the worst casting decision in the sequel trilogy. I'm not saying he's a bad actor, just that he's not the right man for that role of Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren needed to be someone who could project a commanding and intimidating presence with or without the helmet, and Adam Driver just can't deliver that. His overall look is more "nerd" than "warrior" (he does great playing a comedic nerd like "Matt the Radar Technician") but he also has resting sadface, so his neutral expression makes him look like he's trying not to cry. That role needed someone with screen presence more like Ed Skrein or Michael Fassbender. Someone who can look vaguely unsettling and creepy and play "unhinged" very effectively. He's supposed to be an unstable person prone to flying into psychotic rages, but Driver's performance delivers something more like an angsty teenager throwing tantrums. If they'd had a more effective and appropriate actor for the role of Kylo Ren, they could have gotten away with offing Snoke in The Last Jedi and making Kylo Ren the main villain for The Rise of Skywalker. The return of Palpatine is 100% a vote of no confidence on Disney's part in Driver's ability to convincingly play a villain. No, I say the movie they should have made is a new menace from outside the galaxy! All those words flying through space for the opening crawl have to be going somewhere... and the extragalactic alien civilization being bombarded by all that excess verbiage should declare war on the Star Wars galaxy! 🙃 This is why I feel that Ep8 is a 'lost' movie, that when found it would fill the gap between TFA and TRoS with some meaty, connective story-telling that would make it all work, and not be some disjointed mess that has the line, 'Somehow, Palpatine returned...' to explain away something very, very big. This lost movie has that 'somehow' explained in a cohesive and exciting way that makes it all worthwhile. Sure wish someone would find it. I last heard it had been lost somewhere deep in the Disney Vault... And I was fine with Driver's look and performance. His look is that of a 'good guy,' which you would expect of the child from Han and Leia, and when he finally turns back to the good at the end, it works. But I agree, he came across as too wishy-washy, with a bad mix of conviction tempered with a fair dose of explosive doubt that kept him flipping back and forth from devoted Sith Ren (what the heck is that again?!) to whiny whiner. Which is one reason why I wish they had just kept him bad. Darth Cadeus was bad to the end and if they were even remotely modelling Ben on him, then they should have kept it that way and really dived into the fact that not everyone can be, or wants to be, saved. Quote
Chronocidal Posted Friday at 07:56 PM Posted Friday at 07:56 PM (edited) 21 minutes ago, Thom said: This is why I feel that Ep8 is a 'lost' movie, that when found it would fill the gap between TFA and TRoS with some meaty, connective story-telling that would make it all work, and not be some disjointed mess that has the line, 'Somehow, Palpatine returned...' to explain away something very, very big. This lost movie has that 'somehow' explained in a cohesive and exciting way that makes it all worthwhile. Sure wish someone would find it. I last heard it had been lost somewhere deep in the Disney Vault... I like the idea, but I don't think any re-write of the connective tissue between 7 and 9 could ever actually make either of those movies work in a "cohesive" way in the first place. Nothing about the setting of the sequels works from the foundations upward, so you can't really rebuild anything without nuking it to bedrock level first. I can't disagree that there was potential in some of the ideas they explored, but it was all built on nonsense that falls apart if you think about any aspect of it for more than 5 seconds. Edited Friday at 07:58 PM by Chronocidal Quote
Big s Posted Friday at 08:33 PM Posted Friday at 08:33 PM 2 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: His overall look is more "nerd" than "warrior" Wasn’t he a marine or something? Anyway, I didn’t mind him at all in the first of those movies. And he seemed far less nerdy than Boyega who was supposed to have been a life long soldier. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted Friday at 08:56 PM Posted Friday at 08:56 PM 26 minutes ago, Thom said: This is why I feel that Ep8 is a 'lost' movie, that when found it would fill the gap between TFA and TRoS with some meaty, connective story-telling that would make it all work, and not be some disjointed mess that has the line, 'Somehow, Palpatine returned...' to explain away something very, very big. This lost movie has that 'somehow' explained in a cohesive and exciting way that makes it all worthwhile. Sure wish someone would find it. I last heard it had been lost somewhere deep in the Disney Vault... Eh... I don't think there's any saving The Rise of Skywalker. No amount of spackling over the sequel trilogy's constellation of plot holes with moon logic and fanservice will ever make that transition between 8 and 9 feel less like the kind of shift that leaves you picking gear teeth out of your oil for a fortnight. Turns out when Palpatine was telling Anakin how the Dark Side was a pathway to unnatural things, he meant plot developments. I mean, c'mon... they literally replaced the main villain twice in quick succession. Kylo Ren offs Snoke like 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through The Last Jedi and by the next film has proven ineffective to the point that he's summarily replaced by a 119 year old literal corpse who can't even get out of his chair. 26 minutes ago, Thom said: Which is one reason why I wish they had just kept him bad. Darth Cadeus was bad to the end and if they were even remotely modelling Ben on him, then they should have kept it that way and really dived into the fact that not everyone can be, or wants to be, saved. Honestly, that's the dumbest part of Kylo Ren. He's not even original. If I had a nickel for every time Han Solo's son grew up to become a whiny emo kid who turns evil and starts cosplaying as Darth Vader because of questionable mentorship, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. I have to hand it to pre-Disney LucasFilm though, giving their version a name that conveyed how truly stupid and useless the idea was. They probably meant for his name to mean "Slaughter" or "Murder" (Caedes) but they apparently couldn't be arsed to pick up a Latin dictionary because the word they used was "Caedus" (lit. "can be cut down"). In short, he was Darth Expendable. Just now, Big s said: Wasn’t he a marine or something? Anyway, I didn’t mind him at all in the first of those movies. And he seemed far less nerdy than Boyega who was supposed to have been a life long soldier. Yeah, he was. He was a grunt trained as a mortarman and got a medical discharge. Reality and dramatic fiction play by different rules. In the real world, a total badass can look like anything... even a cartoonish mug. In fiction, you want characters to look a certain way that communicates aspects of their personality or character that you don't have time to communicate verbally. A strong character should have a big upper body, an evil one should have an unsettling look, that kind of thing. John Boyega's character may have been trained from childhood to be a soldier, but his role in the story was comic relief for the most part. He's meant to be a bit of a loser among stormtroopers, who are memetic losers for the most part. So not having the appearance of a hardbitten soldier works for him. Especially since he spends a lot of the first film as the plucky comic relief whose very expressive face is best used to convey his outrage and dismay at the latest inconvenient thing happening to him. He's actually a pretty good casting choice, IMO... though it is a shame his character got shortchanged so badly. Quote
renegadeleader1 Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM 3 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Reality and dramatic fiction play by different rules. In the real world, a total badass can look like anything... even a cartoonish mug. In fiction, you want characters to look a certain way that communicates aspects of their personality or character that you don't have time to communicate verbally. A strong character should have a big upper body, an evil one should have an unsettling look, that kind of thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Vining Quote
pengbuzz Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 18 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: John Boyega's character may have been trained from childhood to be a soldier, but his role in the story was comic relief for the most part. He's meant to be a bit of a loser among stormtroopers, who are memetic losers for the most part. So not having the appearance of a hardbitten soldier works for him. Especially since he spends a lot of the first film as the plucky comic relief whose very expressive face is best used to convey his outrage and dismay at the latest inconvenient thing happening to him. He's actually a pretty good casting choice, IMO... though it is a shame his character got shortchanged so badly. Do you think there's any potential for Finn to get his own miniseries? I think there's some storytelling potential there, and the comedy could work in his favor, allowing for some lighthearted adventures (just keep the Jedi out of the story along with Dave Filoni!!). The one counterpoint I can think of though is that Boyega may not have the gravitas/ ability to carry a miniseries as a main character, and that Finn might not be persuasive/ interesting enough a character. Your thoughts? Quote
Big s Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 20 minutes ago, pengbuzz said: Do you think there's any potential for Finn to get his own miniseries? I think there's some storytelling potential there, and the comedy could work in his favor, allowing for some lighthearted adventures (just keep the Jedi out of the story along with Dave Filoni!!). The one counterpoint I can think of though is that Boyega may not have the gravitas/ ability to carry a miniseries as a main character, and that Finn might not be persuasive/ interesting enough a character. Your thoughts? I think Boyega is strong enough to do a show, but his character was weakened a bit too much. Although I guess that since he didn’t end up with lil miss Skywalker that they could try and do something a bit more detached with him and Rose. But that involves using one of the more hated characters. Personally, I think they should just move ahead without using any established characters in a new adventure that doesn’t rely so much on cameos, but gets the narrative moving beyond the Rey era. Basically just leave the past in the past and give us a new beginning Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, pengbuzz said: Do you think there's any potential for Finn to get his own miniseries? I think there's some storytelling potential there, and the comedy could work in his favor, allowing for some lighthearted adventures (just keep the Jedi out of the story along with Dave Filoni!!). The one counterpoint I can think of though is that Boyega may not have the gravitas/ ability to carry a miniseries as a main character, and that Finn might not be persuasive/ interesting enough a character. Your thoughts? Honestly? In my opinion, any potential Finn might have had as a character was squandered by The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker. He didn't have a lot to do in The Force Awakens aside from being Rey and Han's comic relief sidekick. The film did briefly tease that he might have the force potential to become a Jedi in later installments, but that was ultimately dropped. His subplot in The Last Jedi was one of the most heavily criticized parts of the movie and I think that was ultimately what got him demoted to almost an advertised extra in The Rise of Skywalker (alongside Disney's worries about the box office take in China). None of the main characters in the sequel trilogy are what I'd call well-developed, but I feel like Finn was the one who had it the worst by a significant margin. He's basically only ever a sidekick. First to Poe, then Rey, then Han, then Poe again, then Rose, and finally back to Rey. He gets Worf'd so Rey can look good, he sets up catchphrases for Poe, etc. He doesn't ever really get to be his own man... which I find disappointing because he was set up to have a much more interesting character arc than Rey (the Chosen Mary Sue) or Poe Dameron (cocky Ace Pilot rogue) given that he was a defector from the First Order. All of that said, I feel like at this point characters and set pieces from the sequel trilogy are water from a poisoned well. He didn't have enough of an arc for there to be any sense of direction to his character that might drive an original series centered on him. If anything, he might get to come back as a minor character in some far future story where we'll learn that he's serving as a general in the Defiance as they fight the Second Order on the New New Republic's behalf because it can't be arsed. Other than that, he's probably going to be strictly an EU novels character. Quote
Thom Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago I think if they did delve into his history, it could work. As mentioned, he has the whole backstory of being a child soldier with a lost past. Make a story of him trying to find where he came from, have him encounter other troopers, mainly those who did not turn against the Imperial Remnant (First Order) and with the afro chick and Lando along for the ride. Make sure the scripts were more dramatic than funny and I think it could work. Quote
Big s Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Thom said: I think if they did delve into his history, it could work. As mentioned, he has the whole backstory of being a child soldier with a lost past. Make a story of him trying to find where he came from, have him encounter other troopers, mainly those who did not turn against the Imperial Remnant (First Order) and with the afro chick and Lando along for the ride. Make sure the scripts were more dramatic than funny and I think it could work. I don’t remember Rose having an afro, but maybe the first Star Wars romantic comedy where they try and just settle down. One character doesn’t know how to function well in a non military environment and the other is so derpy she barely knows how to handle a domestic life. And then awkward adventures keep popping up and an out of place revelation into Finn’s past to give a bit of seriousness so it’s not totally silly kinda story and gets his series some interest. Quote
Thom Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Big s said: I don’t remember Rose having an afro, but maybe the first Star Wars romantic comedy where they try and just settle down. One character doesn’t know how to function well in a non military environment and the other is so derpy she barely knows how to handle a domestic life. And then awkward adventures keep popping up and an out of place revelation into Finn’s past to give a bit of seriousness so it’s not totally silly kinda story and gets his series some interest. Ha! This chickee. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, Thom said: I think if they did delve into his history, it could work. As mentioned, he has the whole backstory of being a child soldier with a lost past. Make a story of him trying to find where he came from, have him encounter other troopers, mainly those who did not turn against the Imperial Remnant (First Order) and with the afro chick and Lando along for the ride. Make sure the scripts were more dramatic than funny and I think it could work. They've delved into his history in secondary works, based on what I can find... and his past is exactly as unremarkable as the films made it out. Basically, he was "recruited" at age 3 and raised in the First Order's indoctrination centers to be a future Stormtrooper cadet. He did well in training though got up to various comic relief-type hijinks on various assignments and the rest of his squad didn't like him so he never got a nickname. Jakku at the start of The Force Awakens was his first time in combat outside of simulations. 21 minutes ago, Big s said: I don’t remember Rose having an afro, He means Jannah, the female ex-First Order stormtrooper that Finn partners with in The Rise of Skywalker. (Yes, I had to look up her name too.) 21 minutes ago, Big s said: but maybe the first Star Wars romantic comedy where they try and just settle down. One character doesn’t know how to function well in a non military environment and the other is so derpy she barely knows how to handle a domestic life. And then awkward adventures keep popping up and an out of place revelation into Finn’s past to give a bit of seriousness so it’s not totally silly kinda story and gets his series some interest. Nobody in Star Wars gets to live happily ever after. Only misery in this galaxy. Quote
Big s Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 57 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: He means Jannah, the female ex-First Order stormtrooper that Finn partners with in The Rise of Skywalker. (Yes, I had to look up her name too.) 1 hour ago, Thom said: Ha! This chickee. I have no memory of this character. I only watched that last movie once and even though there’s a picture and a name, I don’t remember this person. Did Finn cheat on Rose to be with her or something? Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Big s said: I have no memory of this character. I only watched that last movie once and even though there’s a picture and a name, I don’t remember this person. She's a minor character in The Rise of Skywalker. Rey's group meet her and her tribe of ex-First Order stormtroopers on the ocean moon of Endor while they're looking for the throne room in the wreckage of the second Death Star. She later goes with them to Exegol to fight the Sith and brings the horses they ride on top of that one Star Destroyer. At the end of the movie, she goes off with Lando Calrissian to look for her original family... though TBH the vibe I got was that she was meant to be the daughter Lando mentions was abducted by the First Order as a toddler. 12 minutes ago, Big s said: Did Finn cheat on Rose to be with her or something? Nah. Disney backed away from the idea of Rose being Finn's love interest after she got almost Jar-Jar levels of hate when The Last Jedi came out. It did seem like Jannah was going to end up Finn's new love interest for a hot minute there since they were paired up several times in The Rise of Skywalker, but nothing comes of it either. Quote
Big s Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: She's a minor character in The Rise of Skywalker. Rey's group meet her and her tribe of ex-First Order stormtroopers on the ocean moon of Endor while they're looking for the throne room in the wreckage of the second Death Star. She later goes with them to Exegol to fight the Sith and brings the horses they ride on top of that one Star Destroyer. I remember less and less of that movie every day I guess. I kinda remember the part where they were on top of the star destroyer, but I don’t remember that character and I forgot about the horses I guess it’s kinda like that second Transformers movie where most people don’t like it and some people did, but nobody seems to remember how they got in the desert Edited 2 hours ago by Big s Quote
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