The Last of Us - the HBO series

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Official Trailer.

 

[505thAirborne]

THE LAST OF US Season 2 started last night, I thoroughly enjoy it. Captures a lot directly from the game as well as its own personality. 

 

[azrael]

I thought they would drag this out but nope, guess we're doin' this. Get ready for some real brutal stuff.

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I would love it if they brought some of those brutal kills montage videos to TV cuz I really want to see Ellie go brutal on WLF NPCs. Yeah she's gonna kill all of Abby's friends but I really wanna see Ellie go ruthless on the NPCs like you can in-game.

If anyone thinks Abby is gonna get off easy, keep watching.

 

 

[Convectuoso]

Awesome episode. Loved it

[jvmacross]

I had no previous exposure to the Last of Us game franchise....really enjoyed Season 1....but was really shocked that they killed off Joel...wtf?!?

I am not sure if I am all that interested in any of the other characters, especially Ellie....I find her sort of annoying...

It sort of reminds me off how they killed off Glenn from Walking Dead....personally, the show went downhill after that.....the death of Joel is eve worse....he's literally the main character as far as I'm concerned...

Oh well....will keep watching for now

 

[Duke Togo]

17 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

he's literally the main character as far as I'm concerned...

But he's literally not in the second game, so...

[Big s]

34 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

I had no previous exposure to the Last of Us game franchise....really enjoyed Season 1....but was really shocked that they killed off Joel...wtf?!?

I am not sure if I am all that interested in any of the other characters, especially Ellie....I find her sort of annoying...

It sort of reminds me off how they killed off Glenn from Walking Dead....personally, the show went downhill after that.....the death of Joel is eve worse....he's literally the main character as far as I'm concerned...

Oh well....will keep watching for now

 

Most people thought they were just gonna kill him off last season. I do get what you’re saying though. They made him into such a big character and to be honest I thought it was a mistake to get rid of him for the game as well.

It’s definitely going to be missing something big going forward without Joel, but it’s also one of the better shows out right now. Overall, so far it’s definitely better than the new season of Andor, but that could change either with the lack of Joel or the next batch of Andor episodes that could be great

[Tking22]

I don't know, Joel was a solid character, but I just didn't get as attached as others did from the first game, especially at the end, I figured someone somewhere should be wanting revenge, and there you go. I also loved the story of Last of Us 2, I know it's dark, and the message is pretty much revenge is bad and the cycle to seek it never ends, but it made perfect sense within the context of the first game's events. And the Abby "twist" was fantastic, I loved seeing the other side and getting dual protagonists basically being the other character's antagonist, it all worked for me. 

[azrael]

13 minutes ago, Tking22 said:

I don't know, Joel was a solid character, but I just didn't get as attached as others did from the first game, especially at the end, I figured someone somewhere should be wanting revenge, and there you go. I also loved the story of Last of Us 2, I know it's dark, and the message is pretty much revenge is bad and the cycle to seek it never ends, but it made perfect sense within the context of the first game's events. And the Abby "twist" was fantastic, I loved seeing the other side and getting dual protagonists basically being the other character's antagonist, it all worked for me. 

It's why I want see the producers (who also are the game's creators) recreate some of those kill montage videos folks have posted on YT. I really want the producers to show us how much anger and brutality Ellie is willing to demonstrate to get to Joel's killers.

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And yes, Ellie killing Abby's friends will be pretty dark and traumatic itself. As well as the Rattlers sequence. But...

I really want the producers to SHOW, not tell us, how far Ellie is willing to go to get revenge.

[jvmacross]

1 hour ago, Duke Togo said:

But he's literally not in the second game, so...

As I said...I had no knowledge of the game's events so was just enjoying the show without any expectations....but killing off your main character is pretty bold, regardless of the media....it's a great show so far, so will give them the benefit of the doubt that they can keep it going....

[Tking22]

8 minutes ago, azrael said:

It's why I want see the producers (who also are the game's creators) recreate some of those kill montage videos folks have posted on YT. I really want the producers to show us how much anger and brutality Ellie is willing to demonstrate to get to Joel's killers.

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And yes, Ellie killing Abby's friends will be pretty dark and traumatic itself. As well as the Rattlers sequence. But...

I really want the producers to SHOW, not tell us, how far Ellie is willing to go to get revenge.

Yeah the level of visceral violence in the second game was nearly a character itself, Ellie and Abby both go to great lengths for revenge, and their path there is frakking brutal. like, put the controller down for an hour brutal. 

[505thAirborne]

Really good episode last night, lots of scenes were straight out of the game or damn near close, so that's a big plus. I still miss having Joel in the story, killing him off so early in the game/story I always felt was a mistake but it's how Neil Druckmann wrote it. Still very entertaining. 

[Tking22]

The actress for Dina really carries the show now, she's fantastic, Bella is still rather meh as Ellie, but I can deal. 

[jvmacross]

1 hour ago, Tking22 said:

The actress for Dina really carries the show now, she's fantastic, Bella is still rather meh as Ellie, but I can deal. 

Agreed....now that she is appatently the co-lead...I can deal with it as well....plus she's really cute so there's that....

[505thAirborne]

Last night was so good. 

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If I remember correctly, we don't see the very last conversation between Joel & Ellie until the end of the game but we see it last night. Damn, Pedro sold that scene for all he was worth as well Bella. Another nice intro scene, with a quick glimpse as a teen Joel & his father have a moment. 

And of course, Ellie's birthday at the museum in the space capsule, they nailed it!! 

 

[Big s]

5 hours ago, 505thAirborne said:

Last night was so good. 

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If I remember correctly, we don't see the very last conversation between Joel & Ellie until the end of the game but we see it last night. Damn, Pedro sold that scene for all he was worth as well Bella. Another nice intro scene, with a quick glimpse as a teen Joel & his father have a moment. 

And of course, Ellie's birthday at the museum in the space capsule, they nailed it!! 

 

Definitely a heavy emotional episode. But now there’s only one to go supposedly and I guess the big stuff may have to wait till next season whenever that is

[azrael]

From the looks of it...

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This season ends where you would switch from playing Ellie to playing Abby. I'm guessing Owen and Mel will meet their ends this season. Next season will probably start in the days after Abby's group left Jackson.

 

[Duke Togo]

So, they've now announced there will be a 4th season. I'm confused as to how the first game was covered in one season, but they need three seasons for the second game.

[505thAirborne]

3 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

So, they've now announced there will be a 4th season. I'm confused as to how the first game was covered in one season, but they need three seasons for the second game.

Just my theory, but situations like this tell me that HBO didn't have a lot of faith in The Last of Us and gave the production a restricted budget to get everything in Game 1 made all in one season. (HBO with fingers crossed, they would get their investment back.) 

Now that the series was a huge hit, HBO is like here's the company platinum credit card, spend as much as you like and a few more seasons! 

Sadly, who really wants a season's worth of Abby as the central figure?

[Duke Togo]

4 minutes ago, 505thAirborne said:

Just my theory, but situations like this tell me that HBO didn't have a lot of faith in The Last of Us and gave the production a restricted budget to get everything in Game 1 made all in one season. (HBO with fingers crossed, they would get their investment back.) 

 

If they didn't have faith in the show, it would never have been on HBO to begin with. I do think it's likely that it was a bigger hit than expected, so they asked for more seasons than 2 or 3.

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[azrael]

6 hours ago, Duke Togo said:

So, they've now announced there will be a 4th season. I'm confused as to how the first game was covered in one season, but they need three seasons for the second game.

Not sure.

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Season 3 might cover all of Abby's arch from Jackson to the aquarium. Season 4 probably picks back up from the last arc of the game. Season 2 and 3 end at the same point, narratively, then Season 4 merges the 2 storylines.

 

[505thAirborne]

Well, season 2 is now behind us and it's looking the next round will be primarily about Abby. 

As for this season's finale... 

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The scene where Ellie takes the motorboat to the aquarium was really good, pretty much right from the game. However, a missed opportunity was NOT having Jesse & Ellie battling it out with the WLF like in the game, so rushed with only one quick scene in a parking garage vs the scene in the game where they have to shoot their way out of a neighborhood and use a truck to escape both clickers & soldiers. For the budget this show has, it's a shame that so much of the action scenes from the game can't get into the show. This season needed 9 or 10 episodes, 7 is too rushed IMO. 

I have other nitpicks, but this is just about the season finale. 

I'm not sure what will happen with season 3, but with it primarily being Abby's storyline, I'll watch it but not in any hurry for it. 

All of this is my opinion, doesn't have to be yours. 

 

 

[Big s]

36 minutes ago, 505thAirborne said:

Well, season 2 is now behind us and it's looking the next round will be primarily about Abby. 

As for this season's finale... 

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The scene where Ellie takes the motorboat to the aquarium was really good, pretty much right from the game. However, a missed opportunity was NOT having Jesse & Ellie battling it out with the WLF like in the game, so rushed with only one quick scene in a parking garage vs the scene in the game where they have to shoot their way out of a neighborhood and use a truck to escape both clickers & soldiers. For the budget this show has, it's a shame that so much of the action scenes from the game can't get into the show. This season needed 9 or 10 episodes, 7 is too rushed IMO. 

I have other nitpicks, but this is just about the season finale. 

I'm not sure what will happen with season 3, but with it primarily being Abby's storyline, I'll watch it but not in any hurry for it. 

All of this is my opinion, doesn't have to be yours. 

 

 

Hopefully there’s still a next season. Seems that the viewers dropped off after they killed off the main character and there seemed to be a lot of hatred for the side character that took over. I still enjoyed the show and didn’t play the second game, so I thought the story was pretty good, even though I think killing Joel might’ve been a mistake.
Not sure if making Abby the main character is a good choice or not. Hopefully we get a chance to see the next season though 

[505thAirborne]

22 hours ago, Big s said:

Hopefully there’s still a next season. Seems that the viewers dropped off after they killed off the main character and there seemed to be a lot of hatred for the side character that took over. I still enjoyed the show and didn’t play the second game, so I thought the story was pretty good, even though I think killing Joel might’ve been a mistake.
Not sure if making Abby the main character is a good choice or not. Hopefully we get a chance to see the next season though 

So far season 3 is confirmed, not sure about 4 yet. Since they (the writers & producers) were going to change some things from the game to the TV series, killing off a main character right away is not a smart move (despite that's how it happened in the game), they could have changed his fate to another point in time, it's one reason game 2 has such mixed reviews. 

Whether it's the budget or other reasons, scenes like the one below not being filmed is a big miss for this series. I appreciate good acting & character development, but tense action scenes like these shouldn't be ignored either, at least that is my way of seeing it.