reddsun1 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 like a BOSS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Thats pretty dang good considering the lack of steering control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondTheGrave Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 They do it because they can. BMW is not the only company that does that stuff Sometimes its cost effective others its just bad engineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Thats pretty dang good considering the lack of steering control +1! awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Is it me the only one thinking the designs coming from this Italian manufacturer are less then pleasing then the Korean manufacturer Edited February 21, 2012 by pfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Is it me the only one thinking the designs coming from this Italian manufacturer are less then pleasing then the Korean manufacturer Perhaps. But you gotta admit--the fascia on the Ferrari evokes a much more haughty smirk. Cripes--it's like a fuggin charicature for an upcoming installment of Pixar's CARS... ed: the Kia looks like it's trying to manage a scowl *grrrr! don't mess with me, man--I got sports seats!* Edited February 21, 2012 by reddsun1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Is it me the only one thinking the designs coming from this Italian manufacturer are less then pleasing then the Korean manufacturer Not my favorite Ferrari, but it still looks pretty good. I DO think KIA is making huge strides in design though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Cripes--it's like a fuggin charicature for an upcoming installment of Pixar's CARS... I was waiting for someone else to say it new mondial comes o mind, I think Lambo has taken a lead in the Italian stable and I have always been a Ferrari fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) in I was waiting for someone else to say it new mondial comes o mind, I think Lambo has taken a lead in the Italian stable and I have always been a Ferrari fan Indeed. The Aventador has made Lambo's truly lust-worthy again. What does that roughly translate to again? "kicks a$$ and takes names" or something to that effect? I think Kia and Hyundai are the new Toyota and Nissan [or Honda, etc], i.e. I think this point of automotive history will be looked back upon as a period of ascendancy for them [at least in the States, I think]. Edited February 21, 2012 by reddsun1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 taking my mom to test drive the new Kia Optima next Friday---oddly I'm kinda pumped up about it. ...normally loathe car shopping in general... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) and today's *facepalm* is... brought to you by the letter Q. Edited February 27, 2012 by reddsun1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) taking my mom to test drive the new Kia Optima next Friday---oddly I'm kinda pumped up about it. ...normally loathe car shopping in general... I like car shopping. In some ways, looking at daily drivers the average joe might buy is more fun to me than looking at super cars I'm unlikely to afford in this lifetime. That said, what's up with the new Optima? I'm not saying they're bad, but I was unaware of anything particularly stand-out about them. Then again, maybe it's just Korea's time. Hyundai has certainly gone from making cars you buy because they're affordable to making cars that are actually desireable. EDIT: Looked at it on Kia's site. To each his own, but I'm not really a fan of the front end. Reminds of the Sportage... and I wasn't really digging it then, either. Rest of the car's not bad. Edited February 29, 2012 by mikeszekely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 The Optima looks like a fun daily driver. There's also the Hyundai Sonata. Both share the same platform, but it's a matter of preference on which looks better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The Hyundai borrows a lot of lines from Mercedes C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the interest guys...mom has had an 04 Kia Optima she bought new and so she wants another Kia. She's had zero problems with it and the dealership is clammering to get their hands on low mileage 04's apparently.... FIne by me....however...gotta let a playa play as they say, so me being the car nut in the family, we are going to drive the new Sonata...maaaybe go by the Ford and Chevy dealers as well...just so she has something to compare the new Optima with. Mind you, mom is looking at $$$ first, and everything else second! LOL! I gotta say----I'm in the Sonata camp so far....that's one good looking car IMHO! Edited March 1, 2012 by derex3592 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ferrari has unveiled its latest front-engined supercar and, reportedly, the fastest Ferrari ever built: the F12berlinetta. Under the hood is a 6.3 liter V12 that generates 730 bhp and 509 lb-ft torque. And with a curb weight of 3,362 lbs., the F12berlinetta goes from 0-60 in 3.1 seconds and does a top speed of 211 mph. 2012 Ferrari F12berlinetta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'm guessing that Ferrari looks a lot better in person... 'cause I'm not a fan of the pics online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Like the greenhouse. Definitely do NOT like the fascia and sides treatment(s). But it's kinda like they know they can get away with building an ugly car.... "cause we're fu**ing Ferrari, man." Edited March 1, 2012 by reddsun1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 wow is Ferrari behind the times in performance and a bit in styling. I actually like the styling on this car, except maybe the headlights, but it still seems dated. Lambo is definitely taking the horse to the glue factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 That ferrari is really not that attractive... If it had a Nissan or Mazda badge on the front people would be laughing at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I wouldn't kick it out of bed...... better than the hidious 599 anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Here's an excellent epic road trip video featuring the Lotus Evora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Ferrari's building ugly cars? Lotus is building big, heavy, complex cars for all weather driving, including in the snow? The world's gone topsy turvy! Again! Edited March 6, 2012 by reddsun1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Ack! http://photos.speedtv.com/gallery/1330980458283 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Ack! http://photos.speedt...y/1330980458283 Lambos and convertibles don't mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Ack! http://photos.speedt...y/1330980458283 If it had an actual windshield it would be pretty cool. Edited March 6, 2012 by anime52k8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Lambos and convertibles don't mix. there's something missing,,,, I just cant put my finger on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I like it, there's a cool 80's era super car vibe while still being modern that I dig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 I like the color, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areaseven Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 It does look better than on the previous photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 It does look better than on the previous photos. Ugh! Hadn't seen any shots from the rear perspective yet. Something off about the shape of that rear windscreen, looks out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 People will be all over it because its a Ferrari, but like I said before, if this were the new Mazda or Honda or Nissan sports car, people would fall over laughing at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 People will be all over it because its a Ferrari, but like I said before, if this were the new Mazda or Honda or Nissan sports car, people would fall over laughing at it. it looks like a fat kid grinning from the front a fat ass in a thong from the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 LOL, indeed, it does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 that looks damned uncomfortable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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