DeathHammer Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) Please Delete Thanks Edited February 9, 2010 by DeathHammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I think Deus Ex was actually pretty highly regarded when it came out. Took home a few "game of the year" awards, and did well enough that they made a sequel. ... Deus Ex 2 bombed, though. As I understand things, they dumbed it down in an attempt to make it more mainstream and wound up driving people off. I have it, but I've never gotten very far in it. It was certainly an interesting game, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoveringCheesecake Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Underrated? Hardly. It is still considered one of the best games of all time by uber nerds. I've beaten it probably... 10+ times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I've heard about it too. Where can I pick up the original? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) I agree with everything said. It is not underated but considered a modern classic pc title. I've actually still got it installed on my pc right now! Edited August 23, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentrandude Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 underrated would be system shock 1/2. both all 4 are good games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Love DX. didn't mind the second, but I couldn't really get into it much. If you love Deus definitely go grab System Shock 2 from a bargain bin. I just played my copy again recently - you can get a hi-res patch and a better textures patch that fans made a couple of years ago which work really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akilae Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) I still remember the first time I heard it, literally. My roomie back in college got new Klipsch speakers and used the opening theme from Deus Ex to demo them. Since then I've played it to death. All blades playthrough, none-casualty playthrough, etc.. right now I'm waiting for the HDTP mod to finish (not looking good for them though, might die out...). The second one was just a steaming pile... Ion Storm made so many concessions to put it onto a console that lots of tweaking were needed in the ini files just to get it playable on PC. The unified ammo idea was also dumb... storyline itself might have been nice, but having to wait for an area to load every five steps was just too much. Edited August 23, 2006 by Akilae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I have heard about the first Deus Ex's reputation too, never played. Yet. I got really interested in it now... Hmm... IIRC one game that sounded interesting was Fallout. Gotta check about that too, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross73 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I bought this game months ago and still havent gotten more than few miutes into it. lack of time and too many other thigns going on. Oh well someday when i have time i'll get to it along with every other project i've thought about doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I have heard about the first Deus Ex's reputation too, never played. Yet. I got really interested in it now... Hmm... IIRC one game that sounded interesting was Fallout. Gotta check about that too, I guess. 427494[/snapback] lol.. weird! I just played both fallout games again recently too. I must have a lot of free time. They are GREAT - hard to find though, so maybe it's ok to download them via file sharing. Also play Planescape: Torment if you can find it. Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick was great too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 (edited) ^ All of those title plus the baldur's gate rpgs.. heheh. We should just call it the retro gamer pc thread. Edited August 24, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 ^All of those title plus the baldur's gate rpgs.. heheh. We should just call it the retro gamer pc thread. 427851[/snapback] Yes! Get our TIE Fighter on, and some PC Battlezone(Starcraft+MechWarrior = fun?), maybe even some Tyrian or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatula Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 (edited) Memories AHH! Memories. What a great game, sure this game has shown it's age, but still, the ability to go around most problems with many different methods was just pure awesome. What happened with the sequel? I heard it wasn't so hot. Imagine Deus Ex 3 for PS3/Xbox 360. WIN! Edited August 24, 2006 by Spatula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 What happened with the sequel? I heard it wasn't so hot.Imagine Deus Ex 3 for PS3/Xbox 360. WIN! 427911[/snapback] The sequel was dumbed down for mass-market console play. So Deus Ex3 would be far better served by staying away from the PS3 and 360. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatula Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Eeuuuuhhh.. okay, PC it is. That's what made the original so good, with the keyboard you could basically make JC do more than your like 12 buttoned controller, or however many bloody buttons those things possess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Eeuuuuhhh.. okay, PC it is. That's what made the original so good, with the keyboard you could basically make JC do more than your like 12 buttoned controller, or however many bloody buttons those things possess. 427924[/snapback] 12 is about right. 10-16, depending on how you count it. I was using a MS Strategic Commander. Deus Ex was a test game for it. The SC is a bit loose, but a hell of a lot more fun than keyboard mashing and far better suited to ANY commercial PC game than a gamepad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akilae Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 (edited) ^All of those title plus the baldur's gate rpgs.. heheh. We should just call it the retro gamer pc thread. 427851[/snapback] Yes! Get our TIE Fighter on, and some PC Battlezone(Starcraft+MechWarrior = fun?), maybe even some Tyrian or something. 427884[/snapback] There's a mod out there that lets you play the TIE Fighter campaign using the X-Wing Alliance engine called TFTC. So far only two limitations: 1) Original campaign only. 2) Even if they ever expanded the mod to work on the two expansions, the SLAM drive on the missile boat won't work. Edited August 24, 2006 by Akilae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 (edited) underrated would be system shock 1/2. both all 4 are good games. 427465[/snapback] I bought System Shock 2 long ago. That game was truly immersive. "What was that?" or "I really hope my 7 remaining rounds is enough to deal with whatever's around that corner..." As for the old TIE Fighter game and its expansions... still is, IMO, the best Star Wars game ever. Edited August 24, 2006 by Warmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Absolutely. TIE Fighter is the best PC game ever IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Absolutely. TIE Fighter is the best PC game ever IMHO. 427999[/snapback] Where else can you fly as Darth Vader's wingman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Absolutely. TIE Fighter is the best PC game ever IMHO. 427999[/snapback] I dunno about that. My friends and I had more fun playing the first Descent game then we ever did TIE Fighter. Of course, we were just out of elementary school at the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akilae Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 One of the things TIE Fighter did right was actually making you feel righteous blowing those Rebel scum out of space, something no other Star Wars game has come close to doing. The Empire was never evil! It was merely full of incompetent fools that sullied the Emperor's good name! Played Empire at War recently and I couldn't bring myself to play the Imperial campaign for long... there was an obvious bias against the Empire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 I dunno about that. My friends and I had more fun playing the first Descent game then we ever did TIE Fighter. Of course, we were just out of elementary school at the time... I was at about the same age level, and I didn't really care for Descent. Probably because I didn't have a good multi-axis stick, and tended to get lost, but still...Wish I could find some of my old shareware disks. There was a demo I had that kicked ass, but I can't remember the name or enough about the game to describe it. One of the things TIE Fighter did right was actually making you feel righteous blowing those Rebel scum out of space, something no other Star Wars game has come close to doing. Darn right! I'd also just gotten a 5200, and played the ever-living crap out of Star Wars: The Arcade Game at about the same time(I was an avid retrogamer even then). After blowing a good 30 Death Stars up in a row, you start really rooting for the empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nghia59 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Man, it's so funny to read about Deus Ex on my fav site. I was the assistant lead artist on it. I like Macross way better though. You can tell I tried to add a bit of Ghost in the Shell with that Spider mech and some of the weapons. I guess I tried to get the guys to make it an anime game as much as possible. My friend Peter was one of the lead artists on Freespace and got them to make the missles a la Macross. Ha ha. Macross fans are everywhere!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nghia59 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Here's a mech that never made it in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I was at about the same age level, and I didn't really care for Descent. Probably because I didn't have a good multi-axis stick, and tended to get lost, but still... Stick schmick. We did it keyboard-style all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoveringCheesecake Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Man, it's so funny to read about Deus Ex on my fav site. I was the assistant lead artist on it. I like Macross way better though. You can tell I tried to add a bit of Ghost in the Shell with that Spider mech and some of the weapons. I guess I tried to get the guys to make it an anime game as much as possible. My friend Peter was one of the lead artists on Freespace and got them to make the missles a la Macross. Ha ha. Macross fans are everywhere!!!!!!!!! You sir are a god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JB0 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Man, it's so funny to read about Deus Ex on my fav site. I was the assistant lead artist on it. I like Macross way better though. You can tell I tried to add a bit of Ghost in the Shell with that Spider mech and some of the weapons. I guess I tried to get the guys to make it an anime game as much as possible. My friend Peter was one of the lead artists on Freespace and got them to make the missles a la Macross. Ha ha. Macross fans are everywhere!!!!!!!!! I am suddenly compelled to go find a copy of Freespace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nghia59 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 nghia, If you don't mind me asking and if you know, will there be a third DX game anytime soon or ever? Thanks in advance Well the team has moved on in a lot of ways and Ion Storm is no more but Warren Spector is moving on to do more of the same in different genres. Harvey Smith was in charge of the second one and took it into more of an arcady feel which I don't agree with and he eventually moved on to Midway Austin. Warren however is working with some great guys and will be doing more good stuff soon. If you guys like games like DX then try out Prey, Oblivion, Resident Evil 4, and Thief. All of those are close in depth but lean in one way or another. I personally think that RE4 is the best game that has ever been made. I'm currently living in Santa Ana, CA right by the airport and shopping mall and will be joining the Oblivion team as an Art Director. If you want to see more recent stuff you can find it here... http://nghia59.cgsociety.org/gallery/ Watch out for adult content though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 (edited) I love all those games you listed. I can't recommend to people to play RE4 enough. Damn maybe you can sneak in an easter egg (maybe a dead zentradi giant soldier) in a future elder scrolls game? I'm still looking for the dragon that is supposed to be hidden in Daggerfall after so many years of not playing it. It is a rare thing to find and I thought it was just a rumor. Speaking of replaying older games, I was just playing halo 1 on pc and realised how much better this game feels with mouse/keyboard controls. I can headshot all the bird scouts so easily now. I loved the xbox game when it first came out, (the vehicles, the scope of the levels and how they don't feel like levels, the combat balance and combos you use to fight etc) and have no problems replaying this fps as it doesn't have that "scripted feel" of the typical cookie cutter fps and actually has decent replayability. But I noticed another thing about this game: the assault rifle kinda looks like the yf19 gunpod... Does anyone think someone ripped off macross plus here? Edited September 16, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 I always thought it resembled a big, modified P90 Submachinegun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 On further analysis, it really looks nothing like it. I just think from far away I am reminded of the yf19 weapon is all. mmmm a macross Halo mod with mini variable fighter instead of those flying things. A destroid instead of tanks etc.. That'd be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 mmmm a macross Halo mod with mini variable fighter instead of those flying things. A destroid instead of tanks etc.. That'd be fun. Reminds me of the old Shogo mod that never really got off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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