EXO Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 M-66, while not innovative nor original, has pretty good action sequences. It's just straight out fun, IMHO. But don't expect any more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Oh man, Orion. I couldn't understand what was going on the first time I read through that book, and there are still some story elements which remain cloudy. His little side notes left throughout the book were informative, but added more stuff to look up. That was the first and only comic that made want to research Eastern religion and mythos just to know what the hell was going on. The twin warrior "monkettes" with their spell breaking swords were sweet. As far as his other works, I’m still trying to finish Landlock. The local video store has only had the second part available for the past few years, without bothering to stock the first installment. The character designs are definitely Shirow, but the story seemed dull. I'll have to see the whole thing to make something of it. I'm also curious about Gundress; it looks like more girls and guns schlock but it can't be all bad. (Right?) BTW, has anybody played through Sampaguita on the PSX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nghia59 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 After looking at those poster book collections, I don't doubt you for a second. When I see stuff like that, I can't help but feel like we'll never see anything like Appleseed again.Don't expect to see anymore Appleseed except for a picture or two. Doesn't anybody read my posts... There's a new Appleseed movie comming out next summer. All under Shirowsan's supervision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestroidsRage Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I cant really imagine Masamune Shirow drawing hardcore bestiality and kinky stuff. Which of his works include this? I'd very much like to obtain them, if only to prove to myself he did it, because all I've seen is sexy "almost nude" artwork of his... Which is... Very very nice. So yah.. Which of his works include this stuff??? I fail to believe it. The ManHorses in those pictures insinuate some stuff, but theres no graphic representation of what your mind thinks might happen. -BEN-MAN- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Fine don't believe it. Doesn't change the fact that he's doing hardcore pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted October 2, 2003 Author Share Posted October 2, 2003 Doesn't anybody read my posts...There's a new Appleseed movie comming out next summer. All under Shirowsan's supervision. Yes, I'd read that. But a movie/OVA is still not a replacement for Appleseed Book 5, unless Shirow decided to pick up the story where book 4 left off. I imagine it will instead be an alternate/side story much like Stand Alone Complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted October 2, 2003 Author Share Posted October 2, 2003 I cant really imagine Masamune Shirow drawing hardcore bestiality and kinky stuff. Duke Togo speaks the truth. Click this link: http://shirow.web1000.com/pbcollection.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I cant really imagine Masamune Shirow drawing hardcore bestiality and kinky stuff. Duke Togo speaks the truth. Click this link: http://shirow.web1000.com/pbcollection.html And while its not showing any parts... thats hardcore enough. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 And while its not showing any parts... thats hardcore enough. Really. There's a few of those that are one more tenticle away from being hardcore hentai. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 If I wake up one day and find Shirow with a gun to my head telling me to buy his hentai crap, then I'll be offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nghia59 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Yes, I'd read that. But a movie/OVA is still not a replacement for Appleseed Book 5, unless Shirow decided to pick up the story where book 4 left off. I imagine it will instead be an alternate/side story much like Stand Alone Complex. Well remember that he just came off of 2 stories after Applseed book 5 (Dominion and GITS Man Machine interface) and not to mention the Neurohard project. So it's not like he's not doing any more stories. It's just taking a bit longer to do because of all the smaller projects and illustration jobs that he's had to deal with. He also has to do a lot of consulting with The GITS series, the New GITS movie, the Apple seed movie, and the Orion RPG. I'm just surprised that no one has noticed exactly how busy the guy is. When I talked to Toren Smith a few years back he said that Shirow had enough work to fill About 5 Intron Depot books and that he has absolutly no time to edit them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Hungry Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 (edited) Even in ID3 - Ballistics, Shirow mentions that he is extremely busy. Sounds like the poor guy barely has enough time for himself. nghia59 - where did you find information regarding a new GITS movie? Each time I've searched for info regarding newer stuff from Shirow, I don't seem to find much. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places. Edited October 2, 2003 by Capt Hungry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted October 2, 2003 Author Share Posted October 2, 2003 nghia59 - where did you find information regarding a new GITS movie? Production IG is doing it. I believe it's even mentioned on their web page now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nghia59 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Even in ID3 - Ballistics, Shirow mentions that he is extremely busy. Sounds like the poor guy barely has enough time for himself. nghia59 - where did you find information regarding a new GITS movie? Each time I've searched for info regarding newer stuff from Shirow, I don't seem to find much. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places. Try aint it cool news. They have a 2 minute trailer of really hi rez footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I have no idea why he has taken the direction he has. Very very simple. Money. If there's an audience and there's money to be made... These days most artist no matter how talented will do hentai/porn stuff. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Hungry Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Try aint it cool news. They have a 2 minute trailer of really hi rez footage. Thanks for the info. I'll have to check AICN and or Anime News Network more frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I have no idea why he has taken the direction he has. Very very simple. Money. If there's an audience and there's money to be made... These days most artist no matter how talented will do hentai/porn stuff. I really don't understand how it has to do much with money. Can't we just accept that SHirow has a sick side and it doesn't bother him to let everyone know? I'm sure there's a lot of other pockets of society he can make money off, so I can't see how this is a financial decision. I don't really know what's worse for each of us, a sell out or a pervert, but I would prefer it if we insult them by what they are, not what we think of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I have no idea why he has taken the direction he has. Very very simple. Money. If there's an audience and there's money to be made... These days most artist no matter how talented will do hentai/porn stuff. I really don't understand how it has to do much with money. Can't we just accept that SHirow has a sick side and it doesn't bother him to let everyone know? I'm sure there's a lot of other pockets of society he can make money off, so I can't see how this is a financial decision. I don't really know what's worse for each of us, a sell out or a pervert, but I would prefer it if we insult them by what they are, not what we think of them. I'm not saying that he doesn't enjoy what he's doing nor do I think it makes him a pervert. (I just don't care for it) To do detailed work of any sort with the passion he has, one MUST enjoy it. I'm just pretty sure that money played a big roll in it too. I guess it would atke one of us asking him why he's doing this and why the plate full of work and projects he's given himself. Doesn't he sleep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beware of Blast Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I really don't understand how it has to do much with money. Can't we just accept that SHirow has a sick side and it doesn't bother him to let everyone know? I'm sure there's a lot of other pockets of society he can make money off, so I can't see how this is a financial decision. I don't really know what's worse for each of us, a sell out or a pervert, but I would prefer it if we insult them by what they are, not what we think of them. I can't say I agree with the hentai direction Shirow has taken, but I'm not against it either. As always, his work will sell no matter what topic he chooses to draw. However, I'm somewhat convinced that his phase as a good storyteller has pass. Or maybe he simply chooses to kickback and just draw with minimal direction... who know? Imo, his hentai ideas are nothing new, but I do welcome his art - It's like seeing the old Sempai again. I'm just glad he chose to put his sick side on paper than say... going out at nights commiting heinous crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted October 2, 2003 Author Share Posted October 2, 2003 Ok guys, come on....less porn/bestiality/anthromorph talk, more "other" talk. Surely there's enough cool Shirow stuff that we don't have to sit around dissecting his...er, more questionable works. <_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Ok guys, come on....less porn/bestiality/anthromorph talk, more "other" talk. Surely there's enough cool Shirow stuff that we don't have to sit around dissecting his...er, more questionable works. Yeah... you keep telling youself that. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Does anyone else remember the quote from Shirow in the first Intron Depot art book when he was talking about drawing the "sex" pannel from GITS? He made some comment like: "I really didn't want to put a guy in there, because then I'd have to draw some guy's naked butt..." Makes me think that Shirow is more or less in love with the female form and he just likes drawing it in increasing levels of nudity and perversion. Artists are like drug addicts, once you start working at something you really like the next one has to be better... if you look at Shirow's track record in his manga he has been slowly creeping up his level of "kinky" in his works. The man likes his kinky stuff... more power to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mislovrit Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Very very simple. Money. If there's an audience and there's money to be made... These days most artist no matter how talented will do hentai/porn stuff. Oddly enough many hentai artists stop doing hentai (at least temporary) when they start doing non-hentai work to be consider legitimate artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDisco Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 (edited) i have no clue whats going on in GitS2. i buy the comics just for the amazing artwork/fan service. so i'm a perv i will buy anything he has to offer in terms of hiquality artwork...i'll leave the story telling to others. any good websites out there that showcase his talent? Edited October 2, 2003 by MrDisco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Very very simple. Money. If there's an audience and there's money to be made... These days most artist no matter how talented will do hentai/porn stuff. Oddly enough many hentai artists stop doing hentai (at least temporary) when they start doing non-hentai work to be consider legitimate artists. The oposite can also happen. Many serious anime artists do hentai art work too. I guess its considered hobby or something.... maybe its healthy to dischage those kind of ideas once every so often. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Ok guys, come on....less porn/bestiality/anthromorph talk, more "other" talk. Surely there's enough cool Shirow stuff that we don't have to sit around dissecting his...er, more questionable works. No matter how hard I try it seems to gravitate towards that... Shows you what people are interested in more. I was reading the latest issue yesterday... latest for me, I just don't make it to the store as often as I would like.... but Major Kusinagi looked a lot like Deunan. I don't really see why he says he can't draw her anymore. That perverted bastard!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 The oposite can also happen. Many serious anime artists do hentai art work too. I guess its considered hobby or something.... maybe its healthy to dischage those kind of ideas once every so often. That was a very........ odd........ way to put that Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightbat Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Makes me think that Shirow is more or less in love with the female form aren't we all strangely, i f I were to be able to draw, although the female body might be better to look at for me, the traits of the male body would be an equal challenge to do (technically speaking ofcourse,..I think men are ugly creatures that should never have been allowed to roam this planet ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mislovrit Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 (technically speaking ofcourse,..I think men are ugly creatures that should never have been allowed to roam this planet ) Coincidentally you've stumble upon the answer to why there's lesbian, naughtly tentacles, and beastiality hentai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 (edited) (technically speaking ofcourse,..I think men are ugly creatures that should never have been allowed to roam this planet ) Coincidentally you've stumble upon the answer to why there's lesbian, naughtly tentacles, and beastiality hentai. Yeah... just because the Y chromosome is useless and dying.... doesn't mean those things are cute. <_< Edited October 2, 2003 by Abombz!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I'm just glad he chose to put his sick side on paper than say... going out at nights commiting heinous crimes. Err... how do you know he has done that already, and is simply taking on new things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beware of Blast Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I'm just glad he chose to put his sick side on paper than say... going out at nights commiting heinous crimes. Err... how do you know he has done that already, and is simply taking on new things? Someone once told me that there is a poet in every artist... then, out of ten, you get one who is also a murderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Yeah... just because the Y cromosome is useless and dying.... doesn't mean those things are cute. And guys are? I think a tenticle is cuter than a guy. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 (edited) Yeah... just because the Y cromosome is useless and dying.... doesn't mean those things are cute. <_< And guys are? I think a tenticle is cuter than a guy. Vostok 7 Sure... you guys are not much better then horses.... but at least we can get some communication, and at least you guys are bipedal. B) And besides, while some are winners, horses don't have credit cards. Edited October 2, 2003 by Abombz!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Hungry Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 From Shirow to hentai to chromosomes...........it'll be interesting to see where this thread goes next. This thread did inspire me to change my avatar though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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