Apollo Leader Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 A few days ago I ordered both the F91 DVD (which I didn't think was to be officially released until next week) and the new Mobile Suit Gundam novelization (just came out) from the Right Stuf. Not only did I get the book today (I've already skimmed over the book already and it looks to be quite interesting), but low and behold, F91 was packed in, too!. This is my first Gundam DVD since Char's Counterattack over two years ago. I first saw F91 over three years ago so I know what to expect. Next stop, Zeta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeo-mare Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 cool i already have seen the bootleg but i am so hyped about getting the oficial version, how is the picture and sound transfer? also is the movie still in the widescreen format? thanks chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I haven't seen F91 since the mid 90's. It's worth it just to hear ETERNAL WIND....I love that damn song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Johnathan Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I haven't seen F91 since the mid 90's.It's worth it just to hear ETERNAL WIND....I love that damn song. I haven't seen it in about that long too. But I liked it, the Crossbone Vanguard are pretty cool. And Eternal Wind is one of the best anime songs ever. I will have to go buy the DVD I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Mine just shipped from Right Stuf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Damnit, I pre-ordered it months ago, when it was still only a 1 disc release, and they just now shipped it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macplus Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Sh.it.. there goes my money again... can't wait to get mine. And Eternal Wind is nothing compared to "The time I'm seeing you" also from F91, that song is awesome! not that EW is less cooler though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Twin Moons has had it for I think a lil over a week now, Tam got his shipment real early. I liked the dub it wasn't bad at all, espically the vocal radio effects and such, I'm a sucker for that. The story is weak in my oppinion, but it easily gets made up with the mobile suit designs and action. And you don't really have to focus to much into the music to hear some Starwars in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Getting mine from Suncoast, supposed to be out next Tuesday, might have to stop and see if they have it today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 And you don't really have to focus to much into the music to hear some Starwars in there So what's in the 2nd disc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 You know what, I haven't looked but from what I remember it was Mobile Suit designs for the movie, a timeline, I think an interview with one of the production staff members from Japan......hmmmmmm that's all I can remember, I just know that the second disc is sorta a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Sounds like it. Woulda been cool if one disc was the original theatrical release and the other one is the "complete" version released on LD and VHS, even though they were virtually identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 If you watch now and than, the frame size changes a few inches on the wide screen scale. Not too mention I think a few frames somewhere were skipped, I can't remember. I really do wish however it was turned into a series, I feel that this really got raped in the worst way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 The funny thing is that Sunrise and Bandai were behind F91 throughout the production. They were hoping it'd re-launch a new era of Gundam after Tomino killed off Char and Amuro. They loved it so much, they put most of their merchandising efforts behind the F91 movie instead of the 0083 OVA series. All the cool 0083 merchandise you see these days weren't around when the OVA was first released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 So what's in the 2nd disc? First disk has the movie with Japanese and English 2.0 audio tracks, and mechanical files (mobile suit and mecha info) Second disk has the movie with an English 5.1 audio track, an audio commentary track by the Sunrise producers, trailers, image galleries and a Universal Century timeline guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Second disk has the movie with an English 5.1 audio track, an audio commentary track by the Sunrise producers In English or Japanese? Is it by producers who were actually producers during the production of the film or just some dudes recently hired by Sunrise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 (edited) Second disk has the movie with an English 5.1 audio track, an audio commentary track by the Sunrise producers In English or Japanese? Is it by producers who were actually producers during the production of the film or just some dudes recently hired by Sunrise? Not sure, I haven't actually gotten it myself. I believe it's in English though, as the dubs ADR Director also take spart in the commentary. Edited November 21, 2004 by Panon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 The commentary is in English. The second disc is pretty much a wash, no japanese trailers, nothing vastly important in the timeline, and the art galleries are just screen captures for the most part. What bugs me about the release....the credits are in english. Bandai has been one of the few companies who actually left all of the credits alone, then included a translated version of them after. Hopefully english credits won't become a standard, we already have one ADV, we don't need another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armor Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 What is it? Is it cool looking? If it is I've got to have it. I've got to have it!.... Do I have a problem. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myriad Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Is the audio okay? Audio has been porked on a few recent Bandai titles..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effect Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The funny thing is that Sunrise and Bandai were behind F91 throughout the production. They were hoping it'd re-launch a new era of Gundam after Tomino killed off Char and Amuro. They loved it so much, they put most of their merchandising efforts behind the F91 movie instead of the 0083 OVA series. All the cool 0083 merchandise you see these days weren't around when the OVA was first released. Didn't know that. If wonder if they wanted it to relaunch the Gundam franchise why didn't they make it longer instead of reducing it to movie. They might have done better if they had made it at least an OVA so there was character development and room for more battles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeo-mare Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 the reason the series was never released was mainly because the F-91 Movie was not a big money maker so they did not go through with it sad for the fans I would have loved to see the series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Audio is fine, though the layer change is a bit funky, but overall a solid release. Just has a useless dub only second disc. Bandai's funky audio releases have mostly been related to Stand Alone Complex, so I'm sure there's some way to blame Manga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myriad Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Audio is fine, though the layer change is a bit funky, but overall a solid release. Just has a useless dub only second disc. Bandai's funky audio releases have mostly been related to Stand Alone Complex, so I'm sure there's some way to blame Manga. I found GITS SAC #3 out early but no f91 yet 8>( Thanks Keith! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I checked out the second disc lastnight, it contains a 5.1 dobly digital audio english track, Character gallery, UC Timeline.....okay this pisses me off it goes from 0080, swings into 0093 with CCA, than it whacks around the 100's till the end of F91 which a brief mention of F90. English version with Commentary, which was HORRIBLE! You couldn't hear the movie let alone what people were saying in the background! And than movie trailers, trailers consisted of Gundam F91, where the music was so loud you couldn't hear anything else but it was enough you ask yourself if that was on purpose or just being lazy. Than Gundam SEED which was screwed up, "It's the year AC195.......and two friends will fight.......for their destiny" or something like that, but it clearly showed AC 195..........................dorks....... After that was the Gundam Battle Assault 3 SEED Game which is probably one of the junkiest games for the PS2, not worth the cash, infact NONE of the Gundam BA games are worth it, just jumbling a bunch of Mobile suits, specificly SEED into multicombat enviorments poorly rendered and finished. DONE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 (edited) I have to say, for the much delayed release of F91 in English, what we got in the end was beyond horrendous and completely not worth the wait. I am glad I never got rid of my LD. Looks like what they came up with was worse than the HK boots. No wonder they've been running scared trying to stop people from selling the HK boots. Forget Bandai America. They aren't getting any dough from me if this is how they treat UC Gundam. Go peddle Seed to the Pokemon crowd for all I care. The fad will not last. Edited November 22, 2004 by Jolly Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Bitter ain't we? I mean honestly what were you really expecting? I also don't see what you mean "Looks like what they came up with was worse than the HK boots. No wonder they've been running scared trying to stop people from selling the HK boots." You can't make something worse from a movie that was poorly done from the get go....there's not much more fuel to add to this fire really. If ya hate it, get rid of it buddy that's all ya gotta do. You can I guess trade it off at Gamestop for 10 bucks, out 15-19 dollars and live with the pain. I mean can't we just be happy that we're FINALLY getting with the show biz and startin to get all the Gundam shows coming to THIS side of the pacific? I'd rather buy something official than a boot with subtitles being, "I can't believe I licked my father" with a sad Camille after killing his father. If anything, you got your money's worth with 2 discs for the price of an ordinary DVD pricing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 (edited) Bitter ain't we? I mean honestly what were you really expecting? I also don't see what you mean "Looks like what they came up with was worse than the HK boots. No wonder they've been running scared trying to stop people from selling the HK boots." You can't make something worse from a movie that was poorly done from the get go....there's not much more fuel to add to this fire really. If ya hate it, get rid of it buddy that's all ya gotta do. You can I guess trade it off at Gamestop for 10 bucks, out 15-19 dollars and live with the pain. I mean can't we just be happy that we're FINALLY getting with the show biz and startin to get all the Gundam shows coming to THIS side of the pacific? I'd rather buy something official than a boot with subtitles being, "I can't believe I licked my father" with a sad Camille after killing his father. If anything, you got your money's worth with 2 discs for the price of an ordinary DVD pricing..... What I meant was when you mentioned earlier If you watch now and than, the frame size changes a few inches on the wide screen scale. Not too mention I think a few frames somewhere were skipped, I can't remember. This does not occur on the JP LD or the VHS releases, and the earlier HK boots, which used either one as source/master and do not have the frame size changes as a result. How they managed to screw it up for the official release that's been hyped for several years is beyond me. It's not like they had a deadline crunch and had to push the product out of the doors - we've been teased about a NA release of F91 since they released MGS, 0080 and 0083 here. You said it yourself earlier that the 2nd disc was not worth the price: English version with Commentary, which was HORRIBLE! You couldn't hear the movie let alone what people were saying in the background! Along with other junky features like a timeline that "pisses me off" and demo for "one of the junkiest games" (well said!). I was only agreeing with you, no need to do a 180 and defend a poor product you didn't enjoy yourself. Learn Japanese buddy, and you'll never have to put up with poorly translated anime again. Edited November 23, 2004 by Jolly Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panon Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 (edited) Bitter ain't we? I mean honestly what were you really expecting? If ya hate it, get rid of it buddy that's all ya gotta do. You can I guess trade it off at Gamestop for 10 bucks, out 15-19 dollars and live with the pain. I mean can't we just be happy that we're FINALLY getting with the show biz and startin to get all the Gundam shows coming to THIS side of the pacific? I'd rather buy something official than a boot with subtitles being, "I can't believe I licked my father" with a sad Camille after killing his father. If anything, you got your money's worth with 2 discs for the price of an ordinary DVD pricing..... You do realise he didn't actually buy it or anything, he's just engaging in some rage-against-the-evil-Bandai stupidity based on what he's read here. Edited November 23, 2004 by Panon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Well, I'm still getting it, even though, on a whim, I checked IMDB, and they list good ole LICK Hunter in the voice credits for the English dub. Yup, big fat Tony Oliver... Good thing I only watch one or two anime titles in English, and Gundam isn't one of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 (edited) Well, I'm still getting it, even though, on a whim, I checked IMDB, and they list good ole LICK Hunter in the voice credits for the English dub.Yup, big fat Tony Oliver... Good thing I only watch one or two anime titles in English, and Gundam isn't one of them... fyi. Steve Cannon (Shiro of 8th-MS Team) is the one voicing Seabook. Tony Oliver is prolly just the ADR director. Edited November 23, 2004 by treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Biggest surprise to me.....NO ZETA ADVERTISING! There's a freakin' limited edition box set coming out next month, it's a related franchise.....NO MENTION AT ALL!! Hell, Even ADV adertised their Southern Cross & Mospeada box sets with other releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 I'll say it again, no one knows how to market Gundam in the US properly. It's a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Somebody got it right with Wing, you can't shrug that off, even people admit that the dub was actually easy to listen too. Granted, I did pull a 180, I'm sorry, but you just sorta gotta take it for what its worth you know? While everyones got their own tastes, you gotta acknowledge the fact we're actually getting product and not having to go buy a bootleg where the chances of the subtitles are probably going to be out right horrible. I will NEVER buy a bootleg again after Star Ocean EX and .Hack//SIGN, those killed it for me in the trust of Japanese to Chinese and Japanese to Chinese to English....Ingrish.....there The bonus features, yeah they were crap......the trailers were probably done as well in 5.1 which was a waste, and they messed up the SEED trailer which made me mad....its like someone called Bandai Guy to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Well, I'm still getting it, even though, on a whim, I checked IMDB, and they list good ole LICK Hunter in the voice credits for the English dub.Yup, big fat Tony Oliver... Good thing I only watch one or two anime titles in English, and Gundam isn't one of them... fyi. Steve Cannon (Shiro of 8th-MS Team) is the one voicing Seabook. Tony Oliver is prolly just the ADR director. Tony Oliver - George Azuma, Additional Voices (voice: English version) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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