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Remember WTF-1. There's no subtlety in Macross with Kawamori on the helm. And did you just came up with that "need more than sexual contact to transmit it... "? Where the heck did they mention that? It clearly said it spread through bodily fluids and sex is like one of the prime ways of exchange of bodily fluids. Well if you can sleep better thinking they slept together, go ahead and think what you wanna. I personally don't want the shipper wars to continue on this board. Its getting stupid.

That made my day.

Interesting. Looks like it was stored on the left wing's missile hardpoints (assuming it has hardpoints...or maybe its the fastpack ones)

Actually for DYRL?, the music box melody was all they had. So they written the lyrics in. And sometimes, the melody can tell you what its trying to convey, and in this case they somehow deciphered it to be an old Zentraedi love song. Well it certainly didn't sound like a war song.

Well done. Its obvious that the majority of the fandom are sheryl shippers and majority means they tend to attract more ppl who are blind to everything else except cases that support their shipped object. In this case i support Redwolf. There's no way Sheryl will have sex with Alto since she was so concious of her disease and not even wanting Alto to come near her bleeding finger what more her intimate parts. Get a grip, junior. If you've watched enough harem anime with harem ends, you'll know this is the classic harem end formula. Undecided guy will always want to hold all eggs in his basket, some girls seem close to winning him but in the end, no particular girl succeeds (though the childhood friend always comes close) and they all love him and share him with the other parties with a "Makeinai" speech at the end. Besides if you ask Kawamori, i'm sure he'll give you some strange cryptic answer.....like questions about Ranka's hair.

Actually no. Quarter's cannon grazed the macross cannon and they let go of the cannon. Frontier's gunship more or less took a direct hit but was damaged rather than completely destroyed. After landing on Vajra homeplanet (which i would like to now call Planet Frontier for ease) their cannons are still intact and has abit of damaged look to it. Unless of course its a blooper.

So is Luca = Luke or Jesus? To me it seemed like he just allowed the A.I to take over the controls for the Ghosts whereas before it was subservient to its master. Prior to Judah, the Ghosts will maneuver itself but target acquisition and "commands" probably need to be issued by Luca. With Judah System, the Ghosts get full autonomy like the X-9s. In fact i think the phrase Luca says when releasing them (something about releasing yokes?) is a bible verse. Angeloni is such a stereotypical Catholic name after all.

Its quite clear Sheryl is Mao's grandaughter....no one can deny it. Its on screen for chrissakes. And not everything needs to be spit out to be true? Where were you during WTF-1?

They never said that the bird human was protoculture. All we see are flashbacks of the AFOS but i can see why you're drawing this conclusion.

Other than Dr. Mao and the ear rings...i failed to see the connections though.

Since when Macross became "artsy fartsy" ? I'm sure its just bad animation. There's no reason at all for it to be stylised. Apart from ep 10, there's the infamous panty chasing episode too.

He'll be with Bobby!

Well he WAS trolling....and Code Geass IS a trainwreck....a pretty one sure but still a trainwreck. A meme's longevity is supported by the accuracy of what its describing after all. i'm lol-ing. That made my day. I don't go there but I wonder what kinda discussions do they have comparing Frontier to .....*cringe*..... Shadow Chronicles.

Ah ok thanks. It was because of this D-pulse thing that they lost communications with Frontier as well and was unaware of the DE until Alto and Michel returned with the whole vajra fleet.

Ermmm...yes? Or is the idea of "plot hole" hard for some ppl here to comprehend? The discussion is healthy since we're trying to see if certain parts of the show were explained or not. (though i'm not speaking for this case since there were communications between Galia 4 and Frontier up to a certain point and that's how the Vajra knew where the Frontier was)

Probably when grace uploaded herself back to Frontier....they used that as the direction hostilities are coming from. Grace did say let the fold communications guide them back to Frontier. Speaking of Gallia 4, was it ever explained why Alto's plane malfunctioned near the Global?

Now after watching the subs, it was more or less an Enderverse explanation for the Vajra. Great job. Only difference now is that its confirmed that the vajra are a collective hive mind, not 1 intelligent queen that contols all vajra. The Vajra do not understand individualism and thus do not understand the need for communications as well as death can be bad for individuals. Imagine trying to have a conversation with the hairs on another person's head....the vajra probably thought this way when trying to "talk" to humans. But the vajra DO have feelings despite their alien mindset and wish not to harm the humans once they understood them.

Alto throws off his gunpod (sniper or normal...can't tell) before firing off all his missiles with hands empty. He transforms into fighter mode, and goes face to face with Grace, the sniper gun reappears in his hand. As for the Konig Monster...hard to say .....the machine guns being fired from the arms in battroid mode are on the opposite side from the missile launchers in destroid mode, so even if damaged i suppose it can still fire the machine guns.

If you might have noticed, his Ghosts are named after the 12 apostles and Judah(also known as Judas...i checked wiki ) is one of them. You probably can try to fan-wank a theory on how "the traitor" relates to the Ghosts....but the system means the Ghosts were allowed self-autonomy without commands from Luca so they are similar to the X-9 in Macross Plus. So i guess its assumed the very short clip of them going off on their own was to counter the V-9s. That was implied.....assuming they still needed a physical body and have not ascended omni-presence through the fold network. Well said. And after all Alto says they are both his wings. Hey she's there right next to Wilder. Breathe easy now, soldier.

Commander/queen yeah. The fold network after all is in a hierachical structure, with the "super queen" being at the top of it. The rest of the queens are sub-nodes and by killing one off, the connection to the smaller vajra is lost temporarily thus the confusion in the ranks until the root node takes control again either directly or through another sub-node. So if Ranka was still on Frontier, her original plan will be to use Ranka and Leon on Battle Frontier instead of using Battle Galaxy? That's probably true. She probably did not anticipate Brera throwing out his tracer (whatever that is) and running off with Ranka and neither did she anticipate Sheryl's recovery and ability for fold waves.

Are you talking about Gallia 4 , Ep 25 or generally since the beginning of Macross Frontier? Cuz if you're talking about Gallia 4, the vajra knew her actions (which i assume is the experimenting and parsing) were hostile and thus retaliated. Grace didn't control the vajra. She was preempted by them. Ep 25, as Final Vegeta said, she was able to interpret the Vajra fold network and by use of the queen control them. If generally, Grace manipulated them to attack Frontier through some unexplained means. Probably Like putting up vajra nests in Frontier's routes or something. Sorta like dropping proximity mines in space.

But Grace was setting it up with the tech. Was expecting some sabotage to happen like the anti-grav failing and Sheryl going splat after she says "Watashi No Uta Kikke". So erm...why did Grace set it up...i thought it was a build up to something sinister but meh...never happened.

Thanks! But crap i think one of the decals got stuck to his left thumb while he was transforming it! Or is it paint?

If its a retelling, it will go down the route of DYRL?. Snip off all development for all characters and rely on tv series for their background development. Use them as plot devices that die for dramatic effect. By the time the movie starts, Frontier fleet is already a veteran against the Vajra attacks when they discover that their reaction missiles have little effect. Gallia 4 will be on it. Hydra arc won't be. Michel and Klan are cameos and might die. Epic final battle with more mecha pr0n.

Since i'm too used to harem anime (urgh...i shouldn't be) i don't really mind the triangle unresolved too. But I am more annoyed by the shipper wars especially the sheryl ones who insist alto has made his choice Sheryl....when its obvious he hasn't.