Mr March

Macross II is Macross enough. It doesn't have to fit into the Macross history. It's got the valkyries, the music, the alien menace, the war story, the love story, et al. I may not have liked it, but it is Macrossy enough to be Macross. So what if it's a parallel world; no harm there. Still, I'd personally prefer it if Macross II remained outside the Macross history. At this point, it's just too far out of sync with the main continuity and each sequel only pushes MII farther and farther away. The entire setting, the post-war development, the anachronistic technology, the lack of colonization, and so forth just rubs everything the wrong way. At this point, it's like Macross Frontier vs. Shadow Chronicles; the two have diverged to such a degree they are now totally different animals.

Good idea. Change made and page updated. Make sure to hit refresh when revisiting.

Yeah, it's also been listed as "Macross-Class" on my website for a long time too. Temporary brain loss I guess. I've changed the 04 Global from SDF to Macross for now. I'll err on the side of caution for now and see what the Chronicle says I love you Seriously, thank you for the high resolution pictures. I'll add it to the SDF-2 profile as soon as I can.

That looks like the Quarter's beam slicing up something

September 23, 2008 Minor Update In an attempt to prepare for the 25th and final episode of Macross Frontier, this minor update features all the material available for that section. This minor update features only 4 new profiles. Please enjoy the small update and the conclusion of the latest Macross series. Macross Frontier Section RVF-171EX VF-171EX VF-171EX Super Macross Zero Section Destroid Cheyenne Additions/Corrections Added a front page link to the new Macross Mecha Master List Page. Added the Macross Chronicle to the Books Page. Added Macross Timeline to the For Fans Only section Revised the ALL VF-25 entries with new statistics Revised the VF-27 entry with new statistics Revised the Valhalla III entry with new description and updated statistics. Line Art Added to Macross Class SDF-1 (Cruiser mode profile) Line Art Added to New Macross Class (Carrier mode profile) Line Art Added to VF-1J Valkyrie (Battroid Stylized) Line Art Added to VF-1J Max (Battroid Stylized) Line Art Added to VF-1J Milia (Battroid Stylized) Line Art Added to VF-171 (fighter ventral, battroid rear, GERWALK rear) Line Art Added to New Macross Class Colonization Ship (Macross Frontier/25) Line Art Added to ALL VF-25 pages (Knife) Line Art Added to Macross Galaxy bridge Line Art Update VF-1J GERWALK and Fighter (Color) Line Art Update VF-1J Max and VF-1J Milia Battroid, GERWALK and Fighter (Color) Line Art Update Vajra Warship (Color)

Oh, I see. That makes sense.

So the Megaroads stole away the Class designation from the SDF-1 Macross, so even if there were more SDF Macross vessels, they cannot be named "SDF"? I'm completely lost. I'll go with the Compendium if that's what it says, but that isn't making any sense at all

This is very interesting, but I'm confused regarding the apparent desire to do away with the SDF-prefix. Why wouldn't the 04 Global be called SDF even though it is in fact an SDF Class ship?

*click, save, click, save* Thanks Graham. One really weird part: Macross Galaxy Since 2336? What the heck does that mean?

Yeah, re-imagining ala DYRL. That would be great. I like movies that are made for the fans like that.

Must...have...high-resolution...version... *beep, whirrr, crunch*

Hmmm, you might be right VF-25 Messiah, but it's difficult to nail down the size of the Quarter. It might be larger than depicted in the picture above but it also might be smaller. I'm going to use RedWolf's chart and take a guess. Here goes... According to the few facts out right now, the Macross Quarter is supposed to be approximately one-quarter the size of the NMC Carrier. So if the NMC Carrier is 1,510 meters long, the Macross Quarter would be 377 meters long. However, the literature so far has also stated the Macross Quarter is the same size as current non-Macross carriers. The current carriers in service in 2059 are still the Guantanamo Class Stealth Carrier (400 meters) and the Uraga Class Escort Battle Carrier (550 meters). So the Macross Quarter may be somewhere between 400-500 meters long. Perhaps it's 410 meters? LOL At any rate, the Macross Quarter would NOT be one-quarter the height of the NMC Attack Mode. The NMC Attack Mode isn't as tall as it is long. At the same time, what is the height of the Macross Quarter Attack Mode? The pair of booms that sit atop the Macross Quarter in Attack Mode mean it's height is probably much closer to it's length than what is true for the NMC. Further complicating the issue is the fact that the Macross Quarter's legs actually shorten in Carrier Mode (the "knees" of both legs bend, recessing the "legs" into the amidships). Both factors (top booms and shortened legs) probably means the Macross Quarter Attack Mode is as tall as the Carrier Mode is long. Lastly, the SDF-1 Macross Class (1,210 meters) is actually much taller in Attack Mode than it is long in Cruiser Mode. Notice that the "back end" of the main guns rest upon the "hips" of the SDF-1's "legs" in Cruiser mode. However, in Attack Mode, there is a large gap between those two sections. The SDF-1 Macross is likely 1,300 to 1,350 meters tall in Attack Mode, but it's hard to calculate. One last thing to keep in mind: the Battle Frontier may be larger than other NMC vessels (much like Island 1 is much larger than City 7) So what do we do? Well, I'll try something here. According to the side schematic of the Battle 7, the length of the ship in Carrier Mode is just a bit bigger than the length from the "tip" of the gunship to the edge of the white portion on the leg's "hip". Working from that assumption, I can then properly size of the SDF-1 Macross next to the Battle 7 based on the length of the Daedalus (488 meters) or Prometheus (512 meters). Lastly, I'm going to assume the Macross Quarter is roughly 400 meters tall taking into account the rear booms and the shortened legs in Carrier Mode. From all that lengthy analysis, I end up with this: Just a guess for right now. Perhaps the Macross Chronicle may enlighten the situation. I'm hopeful

Hehehe, poor tiny little Quarter I'm thinking the Macross Galaxy wastes the Macross Frontier, then the Macross Quarter comes in to save the day

SDF-02 bridge! Very nice! I've never seen that line art before. Any chance of a larger scan?

I never even noticed. Big thanks to RedWolf for the screen shot.

I hate camera problems, or any game where you have to fight with the interface itself. I've read a ton of reviews and they all say the same thing. Sounds like TFU would have been a good game, but the dropped the ball. I'm passing on this one. It's definitely NOT the killer app I was hoping it was going to be, so I'm not going to take the plunge for a new console for TFU.

Just had another thought (sorry if they are all pouring out like a mad man)... So I guess that orange Dulfim-like ship was Grace's base of operations this whole time? This is where her VF-27 fighters come from and likely where she was "downloaded" after her "death" on Gallia IV? Makes sense and I'm kinda embarrassed that I didn't guess that was the case this whole time

Ah, good catch fellas (Shun and VF-25 Messiah). My mistake. Must have been too excited by the episode and all the eye candy. Thanks. Still only one big boy in the fleet

Whoa, just realized, was that a "second" New Macross Class in the Frontier fleet? It showed both the Frontier still attached to Island 1, but also showed a NMC ship out in front with the rest of the fleet. We also got a side view of an NMC cruising by itself during the defold of the NUNS fleet into the Vajra system. Multiple NMCs (or City ships for that matter) is not unprecedented of course, but it comes as a surprise to me, given that we've not seen multiple NMCs in the Frontier fleet up until this point.

I'd just like to ponder some of the new Valkyrie statistics for a moment. It sure is interesting that aside from wing-mounted ordnance (like reaction missiles), the VF-25 doesn't have any internal missiles or launcher pods. It appears to rely upon Super Packs and Full Armor for missiles, much like the VF-11. Of course the big difference with the VF-25 is that it can retain it's Full Armor in all modes, which makes it a lot more potent that previous valkyries. The caliber for the guns is interesting. I think this is the first time that Macross has given a barrel measurement for energy weapons, such as the 12.7 mm coaxial beam gun and the 25 mm beam machine guns. In most eras past, they just used small/medium/large bore to describe energy weapons. Speaking of size, the new Howard GU-17A 58mm 5-barrel gatling gun pod is an interesting change. For the longest time the Macross gun pods got smaller as their lethality increased, such as the VF-11 Thunderbolt's 30 mm gun pod. At 58 mm, the GU-17A is definitely the largest gun pod built for a "main variable fighter". Only the VA-3 Invader's 60 mm gun pod is larger and it's an attack craft, not a main variable fighter (I suppose there is also the caliber of the monstrous XS-06 Long-Range High-Piercing-Round Gun Pod, which is currently unknown). This larger gun pod caliber is again another parallel with the VF-1, which used the GU-11 55 mm gun pod. The Anti-Vajra ESA munitions and the later MDE munitions also make the gun one of the most powerful gun pods we've seen, with the exception of the aforementioned XS-06 and the new BGP-01β Beam Gun pod/Beam grenade of the VF-27. Lots of new tech to geek out over

Or equipment failures and manufacturing defects! Plus Anti-UN terrorist bombings and bad weather...in space! "Let's she what's she's got said the Captain, and then we found out didn't we?"

Actually, I always did appreciate the elements of the Battlestar Galactica mythos. The story itself was fascinating as was the setting. That era was a good time for creative concepts in science fiction and I can understand why modern film and television producers have been mining the 50s, 60s and 70s for "new" science fiction productions. It was simply the execution of the original BSG which stank. Especially when around the same time I was beginning to get into anime, which had progressing narratives and dynamic character development. The original BSG seemed dated by comparison to the anime I was watching, even for it's time. That and it was a little too much like Star Wars

I had considered those factors. The Macross 7 fleet is capable of building new warships and most of the fleet consists of vessels described as cheap and easy to produce, so an elastic fleet count is really not that relevant. Also, Fleet counts in Macross have never include mecha; they have always referred to warship counts only (Bodol Zer Main Fleet, Varauta fleet, et cetera). The mention of a specific figure would not be artistic license; might as well call the 280,000 kilometer range of the SDF-1 gun or the 4,795,122 warships of the Bodol Zer Fleet artistic license. Moral of the story; I think we're safe with 100k Meltran ships

The VF-1 appears in Macross Frontier, looking the same as it does in all of the original Macross productions. So no, the VF-1 has not been retroactively redesigned as a chronological result of the more aerodynamic appearance of the VF-0 in a prequel series. Besides, for all intents and purposes, the VF-0 basically is a retroactively redesigned VF-1.

Eagerly await them