Firefox Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 I've enlarged it and did some clean up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted May 6, 2004 Author Share Posted May 6, 2004 Here is the RAF desert storm like color. Could anyone show me how the 'Desert Pink' actually looks like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oihan Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 What series is that from? Is it a VF? This is the first time I've seen the plane. Looks beautiful though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted May 6, 2004 Author Share Posted May 6, 2004 It is a VF. I'm cleaning the robot mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 (edited) Looks like a stylized F-104 Starfighter Edited May 6, 2004 by Knight26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 The LV-7 isn't from Macross, and it's (technically) not a VF. Kawamori designed it for the Air Cavalry Chronicles. I don't remember if it was supposed to be a game or something, but I don't think it ever got past the planning stages. The VA-3, VF-9 and the Fz's from M7 are derived from Air Cavalry Chronicles designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Looks like a stylized F-104 Starfighter I believe that was the inspiration. I like the design alot but the battroid mode sucks (I hate HATE coneheaded robots) and I'm not feeling the forward swept wings much. But it's a cool design. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSW Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 The LV-7 isn't from Macross, and it's (technically) not a VF. Kawamori designed it for the Air Cavalry Chronicles. I don't remember if it was supposed to be a game or something, but I don't think it ever got past the planning stages. The VA-3, VF-9 and the Fz's from M7 are derived from Air Cavalry Chronicles designs. Air Cavalry Chronicles eventualy became the Vision of Escaflowne (note the names of the different forces in Air Cavalry: Asturia, Fanelia, and ZaiBach Empire) ... Quote from the MAHQ site: Next up is a mecha section for Air Cavalry Chronicles, with pictures courtesy of Jameson Leaser. While not a true Macross design series, it is related. These designs, which consist of some originals and some recycled Advanced Valkyrie designs, were originally for the project that evolved into Escaflowne. Many of these designs have since appeared in Macross 7 and other projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-ZeroOne Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Here is the RAF desert storm like color. Could anyone show me how the 'Desert Pink' actually looks like? Its very hard to show what desert pink looks like, as most people who see it only see a blur streaking past at zero feet, in front of the smoke column that used to be whatever they were defending... Nice colours, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 (edited) Is Desert Pink really still used? I read about Mountbatten Pink (something like that) which was used on ships in WWII, but eventually abandoned. I assumed Desert Pink was also relegated to the realm of nostalgia. Anyway...so this thing has a battroid mode? Edit: Ah, okay. Edited May 7, 2004 by ewilen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted May 7, 2004 Author Share Posted May 7, 2004 I thought the Jaguar and the Tornado during Desert Storm were in desert pink scheme? Anyway, here is the cleaned up LV-7 battroid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabbit Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Nnnooooo, not swords..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Nnnooooo, not swords..! Swords are fine, it's the conehead that pisses me off. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Nnnooooo, not swords..! Swords are fine, it's the conehead that pisses me off. Vostok 7 You don't like the VF-14 then, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Nnnooooo, not swords..! Swords are fine, it's the conehead that pisses me off. Vostok 7 I take it you don't like the VF-9 then, huh? If so, I don't know if I can talk to you anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Looks like the Pope in power armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerwalk25 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Swords are fine, it's the conehead that pisses me off.Vostok 7 The head looks pretty cool IMHO it reminds me of the 2nd group of Decepticon Seekers: Thrust, Dirge and Ramjet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Looks like the Pope in power armour. "I am Pope John Paul Kick Ass, time to reinvent the Holy Roman Empire!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis! Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 I thought the Jaguar and the Tornado during Desert Storm were in desert pink scheme?Anyway, here is the cleaned up LV-7 battroid So this is where Kawamori got the inspiration to do the SV-51 niceeeee What relevance does the head unit have ? does it have to look ok for some to like the entire mecha ? damn , some people are just picky. Well , some like that trend , some other people don´t . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Only thing missing is transformation sketches. Of course weather they really exist or not is a mystery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyowelb Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 the robot mode looks like he's going for skiing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikiryou Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Lol, skiing. Personally, it struck me as resembling a Mortar Headd instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Looks like the Pope in power armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Why give 'em swords, Shoji?! It was part of the original theme for the project he was working on. As stated above, this WAS NOT a Macross project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final Vegeta Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Only thing missing is transformation sketches. Of course weather they really exist or not is a mystery... Battroids and Fighters are not strictly related with Kawamori... I can't see a complete transformation. I feel like the swords were supposed to morph into wings. Aegis, for me the SV-51 Battroid came from proto-Elgerzorene. Cone head, small forearm shields, crotch and all. Macross 7 Elegerzorene also gave SV-51 its purple/yellow colour scheme. Air Chronicles, if you didn't see it FV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted May 9, 2004 Author Share Posted May 9, 2004 I like LV-7. It resemble to F-104, in fact, in the Macross Handbook, Shoji Kamawori mentioned the F-104 (though I don't know much about Japanese), while the page shows this LV-7. Yes I don't like the sword either, I would prefer it to be equip with gun. Here is the LV-7 in Thunderbird scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellohikaru Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 LV-7 reminds me of the Russian Ekranoplan Wing Over Water concept. Was it supposed to skim over water ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellohikaru Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/aircaval...kou-fighter.jpg http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/aircaval...er-fastpack.jpg I have a feeling Shoji was inspired by the Su-27 when he design the SeiRan. Looks very sleek to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 What relevance does the head unit have ? does it have to look ok for some to like the entire mecha ? damn , some people are just picky. Hah. Yes. The head unit is key. Hence the hate some have for Firevalks. And my personal ambivalence towards the SV-51. And a bunch of other Kawamori designs. It just doesn't fly if it's wearing a silly looking giant hat. Picky we are. -Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindem Herz Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/aircaval...kou-fighter.jpghttp://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/aircaval...er-fastpack.jpg I have a feeling Shoji was inspired by the Su-27 when he design the SeiRan. Looks very sleek to me. Inspired is an understandment. The forward fuselage is virtually identical. I LOVE it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindem Herz Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 (edited) Ok, while we're at it, I think I'll hijack the thread just a little bit. Here's a pic of the Fast Pack Battroid mode (not really the same as the solo one, guess is a second version or something - it's more bad ass anyway ) Edited April 11, 2005 by Lindem Herz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindem Herz Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 (edited) Damn, double post. Ah, might as well use it. Does anybody out there knows something of the feasibility of THIS design. As far as I know, it's supposed to attach and detach in midair - but I don't know how possible it is without entering into a world of pain like a flat spin or something. Last post about the Seiran 99, I swear. Edited April 11, 2005 by Lindem Herz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skypoet Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I have a feeling Shoji was inspired by the Su-27 when he design the SeiRan. Looks very sleek to me.Inspired is an understandment. The forward fuselage is virtually identical. I LOVE it WOOOOOOOWWWWWW! A Su-27 inspired VF!!!!! COOOL! I have been trying to do sketches for a transformable su-27 and this sketch by Kawamori is 10X better than what I've done... We once again recognize the unrivaled master of mecha design here The su-27 is my favorite real-life fighter! I play a su-27 sim for PC very often, don't know if you've ever heard about it, it's called Lock On: Modern Air Combat, and it rocks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skypoet Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 BTW, if Lindem Herz or anyone else has other sketches of this kind, please share!!!! I'm very curious about Kawamori's attempts to VF-ize real life warplanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skypoet Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Damn, double post. Ah, might as well use it.Does anybody out there knows something of the feasibility of THIS design. As far as I know, it's supposed to attach and detach in midair - but I don't know how possible it is without entering into a world of pain like a flat spin or something. Last post about the Seiran 99, I swear. NOOOO please more posts of SEIRAN + PICS, PLEAAAASE, we loves it! About the feasability of such a design, where in fact the plane is made of two VF's that detach in flight, well I don't know much about that... That would be called a "parasite design" and that was studied very thoroughly in the fourties and fifties.The idea was to attach a small, short-range fighter (or several of them) onto a bomber. The fighter(s) would separate from the bomber if attacked by enemy fighters. The separation phase was generally successfull, but the docking phase was very often a problem because of the turbulent wake of the bomber,which caused a controllability issue for the parasite... it was very hard for the parasite aircraft to dock onto the "bigger" aircraft! Sometimes a failed approach would result in a crash of the parasite onto the bomber. That happened with the "goblin". Examples of (such) parasite designs: The (US) goblin (fighter) and the B36 (bomber) (cancelled because too dangerous) The (soviet) I-16 (fighter) and the SPB (bomber) (successful I think) Sorry that's all I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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