CryptCat Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I've seen the Animeigo Macross Box Set - with the black outer slip case, and the 9 DVDs in individual cases inside - two ways. In one, the individual DVD cases themselves are black. In the other, the individual DVD cases are each a different color, corresponding to the minimalist artwork on each's cover. I have two questions: 1. Why the difference? and 2. Is there anything more than aesthetics different between these two otherwise seemingly identical sets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 its been so long I can't quite remember the details on the individual sets-but found this https://www.mechatalk.net/viewtopic.php?t=8726 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptCat Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 So, it sounds like one was the original release and then the other was the leftover stock, as both come in a single package slip case wth nine DVDs inside. The only difference being the color of the plastic of each DVD case - one set all black, the other multi-colored. Not sure which set is which, but it sounds like the contents are identical either way. Thanks for the response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, CryptCat said: So, it sounds like one was the original release and then the other was the leftover stock, as both come in a single package slip case wth nine DVDs inside. The only difference being the color of the plastic of each DVD case - one set all black, the other multi-colored. Not sure which set is which, but it sounds like the contents are identical either way. Thanks for the response! I got my set direct from Animeigo and the cases for each disc in my set are black. I'd assume, based on that, that the color-matching cases are the leftover stock that was the repackaged leftover stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 This brings back memories. I remember ordering the first set from Animeigo on their proto-crowdfunder. Ended up costing me 450 CAD. Worth it at the time since SDF Macross didn't have a previous release other than the incomplete robotech perfect collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorCanine Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I've only ever seen one listing for a copy with multicolored cases, so I assume the owner just did that themselves. I think the set ONLY ever came in black cases, officially. I actually just bought a copy of this set a few weeks back, really love having it! Not bad for only being a Macross fan for about a month now. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, CollectorCanine said: I've only ever seen one listing for a copy with multicolored cases, so I assume the owner just did that themselves. I think the set ONLY ever came in black cases, officially. I actually just bought a copy of this set a few weeks back, really love having it! Not bad for only being a Macross fan for about a month now. lol As starting points go, there are few finer... welcome aboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorCanine Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 35 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: As starting points go, there are few finer... welcome aboard. Thank you! Glad to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff J Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, CollectorCanine said: Thank you! Glad to be here.These Wow, still shrinkwrapped for vol. 2-9. What a find! I'm visiting my parents's place and looked at my old boxed set. The colors on the spines are so faded lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorCanine Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I was an infant when this set was released, so I'm pretty happy to have found a copy! I paid way more than I should have, but I felt like I needed to have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff J Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, CollectorCanine said: I was an infant when this set was released, so I'm pretty happy to have found a copy! I paid way more than I should have, but I felt like I needed to have it. I'm biased of course, but I think you'll like it. I was digging into internet archives, and I had forgotten that AnimEigo had also released individual discs for $22.45 a pop, meaning collecting the nine individual discs or the three three-disc sets was going to cost twenty-something percent less than buying a boxed set. The $260 we early adopters paid for the boxed set was a marked up price. But hey, we got to enjoy it a year earlier, plus we got a box and the lenticular-motion picture! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eevli Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 IIRC I missed the first release and got the second which was 3 slip cases containing 3 episodes apiece. I don't go looking for them but I keep my eyes open and I've never seen colored cases so I'd bet that's a custom job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorCanine Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I think my only complaint with the set is that it takes up a ludicrous amount of space on the shelf. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazuo Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/27/2024 at 1:00 PM, Jeff J said: I'm biased of course, but I think you'll like it. I was digging into internet archives, and I had forgotten that AnimEigo had also released individual discs for $22.45 a pop, meaning collecting the nine individual discs or the three three-disc sets was going to cost twenty-something percent less than buying a boxed set. The $260 we early adopters paid for the boxed set was a marked up price. But hey, we got to enjoy it a year earlier, plus we got a box and the lenticular-motion picture! 🤣 Perhaps a better way to look at it is the pre-order group were the ones that made the release happen. Literally, as I recall. Pretty sure Robert Woodhead said that without sufficient preorders, it was dead in the water. But it's possible I am misremembering. Too lazy to look. Maybe I'm mixing it up with the Zeta Gundam DVD boxset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorCanine Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) It's always so fascinating for me to hear about events that happened in fandoms long before I was ever a part of them. Though it is frustrating to get into something, only to find out that its only physical releases in the USA came out when I was an infant or child and are now loooooong out of print and very expensive... I paid way too much for this Macross set, but it was still cheaper than what ADV's set is going for! Though... I paid around the same amount as its original retail price mentioned above, so I guess that's not horrible? Edited March 1 by CollectorCanine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff J Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 56 minutes ago, kazuo said: Perhaps a better way to look at it is the pre-order group were the ones that made the release happen. Literally, as I recall. Pretty sure Robert Woodhead said that without sufficient preorders, it was dead in the water. But it's possible I am misremembering. Too lazy to look. Maybe I'm mixing it up with the Zeta Gundam DVD boxset. That lines up with my recollection of the AnimEigo panel at Anime Central 2001. They also had pricing tiers based on the number of pre-orders they received. Basically, it was the 2001 version of a Kickstarter campaign. EDIT: Oops, floating cursor... Anyway, funny comment under bullet one about English dubs... Edited March 1 by Jeff J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 8 hours ago, Jeff J said: Anyway, funny comment under bullet one about English dubs... How nostalgic! Yeah, HG's official line was there won't be an english-dubbed release of Macross, because "we already have that, it's called Robotech". That went out the window as soon as the Animeigo license expired and ADV got it. I genuinely believe they were trying to screw over Animeigo from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) On 3/1/2024 at 5:47 PM, JB0 said: How nostalgic! Yeah, HG's official line was there won't be an english-dubbed release of Macross, because "we already have that, it's called Robotech". That went out the window as soon as the Animeigo license expired and ADV got it. I genuinely believe they were trying to screw over Animeigo from the start. Which is why AnimEigo screwed back and (mind you this is pure assumption based on what I saw from both releases) gave HG back their sh!t quality audio masters as the source when ADV did their release. Edited March 16 by Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Keith said: Which is why AnimEigo screwed back and (mind you this is pure assumption based on what I saw from both releases) gave HG back their sh!t quality audio masters as the source when ADV did their release. Pretty sure it was just that HG didn't want to pay up for access to Animeigo's remastered/cleaned-up audio tracks... and they either figured audiences wouldn't care, or hoped that ADV Films would do the job just as well. I've always privately suspected that Animeigo got the license because Harmony Gold believed its own hype and thought it'd never sell. When it sold well, they suddenly wanted it in the hands of their main distribution partner, probably because of more favorable license terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 5 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said: Pretty sure it was just that HG didn't want to pay up for access to Animeigo's remastered/cleaned-up audio tracks... and they either figured audiences wouldn't care, or hoped that ADV Films would do the job just as well. I suspect they either didn't know Animeigo would do an extensive remaster, or they were just too incompetent to include "transfer the remastered audio and video to us at the same time you deliver all unsold stock for us to repackage when we cut you out" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectorCanine Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) Honestly, from watching my old AnimEigo DVD set and my Lionsgate/A&E Networks Robotech Complete Set, the video quality is identical. They look like they were definitely taken from the same video source and AnimEigo is credited with "footage restoration" on the Robotech set. This leads me to believe they used AnimEigo's restored Macross footage for every release after, including re-creating Robotech's edited footage with it, yet didn't use their remastered audio for whatever reason. Edited March 16 by CollectorCanine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 8 hours ago, JB0 said: I suspect they either didn't know Animeigo would do an extensive remaster, or they were just too incompetent to include "transfer the remastered audio and video to us at the same time you deliver all unsold stock for us to repackage when we cut you out" It's unlikely to be the second one, since it's SOP for the localization distributor to claim a copyright on any parts of the localization they produce themselves... like remastered audio or video tracks, subtitle scripts, dub audio tracks, etc. HG can't have been in the dark about that because that's the genesis of their copyright on The Other Series. That's also why the Macross II kickstarter had to acquire the rights to the English dub audio tracks from the 90's release. It's not automatically included. It's also a safe bet that they knew in advance Animeigo intended to do a remaster, because that would probably have been a part of the license agreement in the first place. The most likely explanation is that HG just cheaped out, as they did with so many other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2024 at 2:46 PM, Seto Kaiba said: It's unlikely to be the second one, since it's SOP for the localization distributor to claim a copyright on any parts of the localization they produce themselves... like remastered audio or video tracks, subtitle scripts, dub audio tracks, etc. HG can't have been in the dark about that because that's the genesis of their copyright on The Other Series. That's also why the Macross II kickstarter had to acquire the rights to the English dub audio tracks from the 90's release. It's not automatically included. It's also a safe bet that they knew in advance Animeigo intended to do a remaster, because that would probably have been a part of the license agreement in the first place. The most likely explanation is that HG just cheaped out, as they did with so many other things. Par for the course with them; Frank's daughter is just as stingy as he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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