mighty gorgon Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 A couple of trials with two different designs of suns (only the upper fin yet). Option 1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 Option 2. (both have a sharkmouth!!! ha! ha! ha!) regds, (a very tired) Gorgon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 i say the second one looks better there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 (edited) Those both look good. I always thought that having the sun centered in the middle of the tail looked better (though I guess that's obvious since I chose it for my paintjob). One of the reasons I left the sharkmouth off is because it's a variable fighter. Who would want to pilot a mecha with a mouth on it's crotch? Edited January 14, 2004 by Nied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 i'd like to see the VF-19 with the sharks mouth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Hmm... maybe I can oblige you when I start working up YF-19 and VF-19A textures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 Those both look good. I always thought that having the sun centered in the middle of the tail looked better (though I guess that's obvious since I chose it for my paintjob). One of the reasons I left the sharkmouth off is because it's a variable fighter. Who would want to pilot a mecha with a mouth on it's crotch? Ouch! and is still worse, who would want to pilot a mecha with *it's own* mouth on it's crotch?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 15, 2004 Author Share Posted January 15, 2004 I always thought that having the sun centered in the middle of the tail looked better (though I guess that's obvious since I chose it for my paintjob). Done, and with a yellow rim around the red. It appears in some references and in others doesn't... Still a lot of work to do (inner fins, starboard color map, etc.)... Regds, gorgon (I'll be back after Kendo!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Looks good. Nice job there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Beauty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 17, 2004 Author Share Posted January 17, 2004 (edited) Any chance we could see your model in the SUndowners color scheme I made? Version WITH sharkmouth. some artifacts from the rendering and some problems in the exhausts are evident, but it took 35 min to render (in a 2.8 GHz Hyperthread P4, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB Serial ATA!!!!), mainly due to the radiosity coupled with a heavy antialias setting, so I did not re-render it... Edited January 17, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 17, 2004 Author Share Posted January 17, 2004 ...and version WITHOUT sharkmouth, artifacts or exhaust. Slightly different angle but same background. Any idea for backgrounds will be welcome... (this one was rendered in 40 min, the difference was in the settings to aviod artifacts). Regds, Gorgon p.d.: work to do: finish panelling, spec and gloss maps, some other detail, redo helmet, etc. etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007-vf1 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 That is simply incredible...awesome job Gorgon. It needs abetter background though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Make that a little bit bigger and you've got one hell of a great wallpaper! One question: Are the wings all white, and if so, are they supposed to be that way? The standard "Navy" scheme is gloss gull grey over white with upper surfaces (except flaps and sometimes wing leading edges) in grey. I'll see if I can scare up some good airial photos for you to use as backgrounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 17, 2004 Author Share Posted January 17, 2004 It needs abetter background though. ...yes. any suggestion? a space scene? earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 17, 2004 Author Share Posted January 17, 2004 Make that a little bit bigger and you've got one hell of a great wallpaper! One question: Are the wings all white, and if so, are they supposed to be that way? The standard "Navy" scheme is gloss gull grey over white with upper surfaces (except flaps and sometimes wing leading edges) in grey. I'll see if I can scare up some good airial photos for you to use as backgrounds. The wings were white, because I made a mistake with the surfaces... I had the proper layer (gull gray), but I did not activate it. I thought the difference was because of different surface orientation, but no... it was just a plain old mistake. I am checking the correction with a render now (25% done and running), and I'll repost the renders. No problem to render it at 1280 x 960, but I should find a better background or at least post also the alpha map! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 18, 2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2004 (edited) Just a small render, to see how it looks under a wide angle lens (background from airliners.net). Proper gray on the upper wings now. Edited January 18, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 Another fisheye render (with lousy radiosity). I like the image, but I could not get the radiosity right. I'll try later this week with some fake radiosity technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 And finally a large render of the last version with "no step" signs in the wings, white ailerons and pilot name (myself!) Regds. Mighty "Iceman" Gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 wow! that last one's good enough to be my wallpaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 No exhaust fx? Is it just gliding? I absolutely cannot find anything wrong with your renders bro, they look awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neova Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 And finally a large render of the last version with "no step" signs in the wings, white ailerons and pilot name (myself!)Regds. Mighty "Iceman" Gorgon Sweet! Might want to clean up the AA a bit but other than, brilliant. Now can you produce the same shot but with different squadron and color schemes? How about an Enigma, Blue Rose, Low Vis or something like that? Keep it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 (edited) Sweet! Might want to clean up the AA a bit but other than, brilliant.Now can you produce the same shot but with different squadron and color schemes? How about an Enigma, Blue Rose, Low Vis or something like that? Keep it up! You are right... the AA was a bit low (LOW was the precise setting). Somehow I could not get the CPU above 50% and I did not used a higher AA. Now it is Ok (Enhanced High). Other schemes? Yes, but give me some time... I would like to make first a couple of flanker schemes and another mesh also (see my other post!). And of course a scheme of the SVF-999 "Norwegian Blue Parrots"!!!! Regds, Gorgon (at low AA) Edited January 21, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share Posted January 24, 2004 (edited) First (public) attempt at weathering. Main surfaces look OK, but I am not completely satisfied with the drips in the horizontal ailerons... It is exactly the same as in the wing leading edge, but it stands out too much over the white... Must improve that. *** UPDATED *** following Doktor Gonzo observation (below) p.d.: I rendered it too large... I'll keep the other WIP smaller... Edited January 24, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Gonzo Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Gorgon: Looks great! Getting to the point though where that rendered jet exhaust is starting to look really hokey by comparison. Why not drop that effect entirely, and paint it in with Photoshop after the fact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I love this particular angle of the VF-4. This shot is going to make a great high res wallpaper. *eagerly awaits finished shot* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share Posted January 24, 2004 (edited) Gorgon:  Looks great! Getting to the point though where that rendered jet exhaust is starting to look really hokey by comparison. Why not drop that effect entirely, and paint it in with Photoshop after the fact? Ouch!!! You're right! I have the desktop at 1024x768 and I did not notice the lousy exhaust!!! I'm trying to get a better effect (turbulence ideally), but it's still miles ahead... *** I 'VE UPDATED THE IMAGE ABOVE *** Edited January 25, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Why show the exhaust at all? In real life you wouldn't be able to see anything unless the engine is set to full throttle. Most of you shots show it cruising, so no exhaust effect at all might be more apropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 You could try putting the glow from the engine fire inside the exhaust housing... At the risk of sounding critical, the engine pod thrusters look as if they should go deeper than what they appear. Good model, But it just doesn't seem like it could pass for a 'real' VF-4 yet...but good nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 (edited) Mmmm... Three weeks of heavy work are finally over. I could finally get back to the VF-4. Not much really (and that's why I reduced a little the image posted). Just added position (based on the F-14 distribution) and anticollision lights. I know this can be a little "controversial", but I decided to add the anticollision lights of the tail fins (upper and lower) in the leading edge, rather than the other way around (as most profiles suggest), as the screengrab I got from 2012 shows them this way. Comments welcome, before going to the next step... FINISHING THE DARN MODEL!!!! Regds, Gorgon (already fed up with the surfacing of the VF-4) Edited February 11, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 Here it goes, this evening render (usual image/angle/background). (did I already mention that I *HATE* the surfacing part of modelling?) Regds, Gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Loving it so far mighty gorgon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodavan Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Very nice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Looking good. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I can't wait to see the finished VF-4 in all her GLORY. Keep it up Mighty G! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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