bsu legato Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 ...and the second one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Meh... I always found him not to look anything like Sir Alec Guiness. <_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 At least he got the beard shaping skills right.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted September 20, 2003 Share Posted September 20, 2003 At least he got the beard shaping skills right.. Yes, that's a considerable Jedi skill. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 (edited) Didn't see anyone mention this rumor... word has it that besides the new Padme footage Lucas is shooting for the original trilogy, he's entertaining the idea of redoing Ep 4's light saber fight between Obiwan and Vader using digital doubles to make them look more exciting. I sure hope Sir Alec Guiness is not rolling in his grave. Edit in: Original AICN report Edited September 22, 2003 by Jolly Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 (edited) Didn't see anyone mention this rumor... word has it that besides the new Padme footage Lucas is shooting for the original trilogy, he's entertaining the idea of redoing Ep 4's light saber fight between Obiwan and Vader using digital doubles to make them look more exciting.I sure hope Sir Alec Guiness is not rolling in his grave. WHAT?!?! edit: I suck at teh intarweb. Vostok 7 Edited September 22, 2003 by Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effect Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 (edited) I have mixed feelings about that. Personally after seeing Luke and Vader fighting in ESB and even Yoda getting down in AoTC. I always feel that fight could have been a lot better and had more to it. Then again I'm not all for change it with CG. Maybe in episode 3 someone could have some sort of vision into the future and show them fighting. We don't get the see the entire thing if I"m remembering correctly. It cuts to other scenes during the beginning of their fight I think. Not sure though. But if that was the case the additional scenes could have happen then. But not actually changing the A New Hope footage. Edited September 22, 2003 by Effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Didn't see anyone mention this rumor... word has it that besides the new Padme footage Lucas is shooting for the original trilogy, he's entertaining the idea of redoing Ep 4's light saber fight between Obiwan and Vader using digital doubles to make them look more exciting.I sure hope Sir Alec Guiness is not rolling in his grave. I don't think he would dare..... we are talking about mass riots here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 I have so many versions on VHS I don't remember what did and what didn't come out anymore... Well word is that not only is Lucas refusing to release the original trilogy as we know and love them, but when they do finally come out on DVD, it'll have those additional and updated scenes. He also refuses to release the SE edition we saw in the theatre right before Ep.1 came out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I don't think he would dare..... we are talking about mass riots here!! This is Lucas we're talking about. Do you really think he cares? Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I have so many versions on VHS I don't remember what did and what didn't come out anymore...Well word is that not only is Lucas refusing to release the original trilogy as we know and love them, but when they do finally come out on DVD, it'll have those additional and updated scenes. He also refuses to release the SE edition we saw in the theatre right before Ep.1 came out... Thats quite a milking if you ask me... enough to make Bandai and its Gundam milking techniques a run for their money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effect Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Well he can do what he wants since Star Wars does belong to him. People will buy it no matter what it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Well he can do what he wants since Star Wars does belong to him. People will buy it no matter what it seems. All his Star Wars are belong to him? Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Well he can do what he wants since Star Wars does belong to him. People will buy it no matter what it seems. You are right... but then again... that won't stop the most vocal fanboys from make a big deal out of it... or even going to great lengths to stop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Guys (and Gals)...I hope you're not putting any faith in anything AICN has to say on Star Wars. This "Digital Redux" rumor is in no way new, since it's been circulating since 2000 or so. I highly doubt Lucas has any interest in "prequelizing" the ANH duel, since he himself described the two combatants as an "Old man and a cripple." And the supposed ROTJ Padme footage has also long since been debunked. Moreover, there's no need for extra footage, since Padme is going to DIE in Ep III. Die die, die die. Worms in her eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 Must infiltrate Skywalker Ranch and bring that Lucas clone down like mofo! "Who are you and what did you do to the real Lucas!?!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Well he can do what he wants since Star Wars does belong to him. People will buy it no matter what it seems. All his Star Wars are belong to him? Vostok 7 LOL... oldie but goodie! All Your Base Are Belong To Us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I don't think he would dare..... we are talking about mass riots here!! This is Lucas we're talking about. Do you really think he cares? Vostok 7 Not if there is money in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 You guys need to go back and read my above post before jumping on the "Lucas si t3h suxorz" comments. I'll say it again, but in a more to-the-point manner. AICN is full of crap!!!!! If you believe them, then I have an SDF-1 to sell you. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I did point out it was a rumor in the original message if you missed that... the article itself also told people to take this with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 After we read the above post, can we still bag on Lucas??? The fact that AICN is full of crap doesn't make him less of a multibillion dollar hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeta Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Ya know what, if the person who created something like a movie wants to change it, let him! I dont like not releasing the old versions, but meh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 After we read the above post, can we still bag on Lucas??? The fact that AICN is full of crap doesn't make him less of a multibillion dollar hack. Hey, c'mon now... Locas has done a lot of good things. Howard the Duck, Jar-Jar Binks... EWOKS. He's so disgustingly overrated and woefully untalented. The only reason Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were decent was because he had nothing to do with the writing or production, story and producer... Although technically producers do a lot, but surmising from his extreme involvement in Episode 2 and Episode 3, we can surmise he is the root of the crappiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 The only reason Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were decent was because he had nothing to do with the writing or production, story and producer... LOL! You have NO idea wha you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effect Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 (edited) Lucas wrote all the stories. He didn't do all the directing or screeplays though. From Star Wars.com The Empire Strikes Back CrewDirected By    Irvin Kershner Produced By   Gary Kurtz Screenplay By  Leigh Brackett              Lawrence Kasdan Story By      George Lucas Executive Producer    George Lucas Production Designer     Norman Reynolds Director Of Photography    Peter Suschitzky B.S.C. Edited By         Paul Hirsch A.C.E. Return of the Jedi CrewDirected By        Richard Marquand Screenplay By       Lawrence Kasdan                   George Lucas Story By         George Lucas Produced By       Howard Kazanjian Executive Producer      George Lucas Co-Producers         Robert Watts                     Jim Bloom Production Designer          Norman Reynolds Director Of Photography      Alan Hume B.S.C. Edited By Sean Barton Marcia Lucas Duwayne Dunham Edited September 23, 2003 by Effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effect Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Episode II CrewDirected By                George Lucas Screenplay By              George Lucas                          Jonathan Hales Story By                   George Lucas Produced By                Rick McCallum Executive Producer           George Lucas Director Of Photography       David Tattersall, B.S.C. Production Designer          Gavin Bocquet Editor And Sound Designer    Ben Burtt Costume Designer           Trisha Biggar Casting By                 Robin Gurland Music By                  John Williams Its pretty much the same thing for Episode 3 but they don't list who did the screenplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Lucas wrote all the stories. He didn't do all the directing or screeplays though. Actually, it's not too well known that Lucas actually directed the throne room scenes in Jedi, including the Anakin reveal at the very end. And although he didn't actually write the sceenplays for Empire and Jedi, he was deeply involved in story conferencing with Kasdan during the writing process. Ultimately, what's on the screen is there because he wanted it to be there. Also, e-critics also love to omit the fact that Lucas somehow managed to write and direct A New Hope all by himself, without the "help" of Kershner and Kasdan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effect Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Cool. I didn't know that. I really liked the throne room scenes. Some of the best in the movies. And the end with Anakin, Yoda, and Obiwan was really good as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 The only reason Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were decent was because he had nothing to do with the writing or production, story and producer... LOL! You have NO idea wha you're talking about. Typo there, I meant to say direction not production. But otherwise my point is valid. Few people would disagree that Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are the best of the Star Wars series. Thats the difference between them and A New Hope, Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones? Lucas' involvement in the script and direction. Hrmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Lucas wrote all the stories. He didn't do all the directing or screeplays though. Actually, it's not too well known that Lucas actually directed the throne room scenes in Jedi, including the Anakin reveal at the very end. And although he didn't actually write the sceenplays for Empire and Jedi, he was deeply involved in story conferencing with Kasdan during the writing process. Ultimately, what's on the screen is there because he wanted it to be there. Also, e-critics also love to omit the fact that Lucas somehow managed to write and direct A New Hope all by himself, without the "help" of Kershner and Kasdan. Didn't know that, but he certainly did have help from a movie called "The Hidden Fortress." A New Hope really wasn't all that good, it was a basic space opera who's most impressive part was the special effects. The whoel Star Wars backstory didn't come into fruition until A New Hope was released and became popular. By itself it's average space opera at best. Personally I liked American Graffiti, but since the early 80's Lucas' respectibility and quality of work has gone steadily down hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Jenius Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 bla bla bla They're all stupid. Just watch em for what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Didn't know that, but he certainly did have help from a movie called "The Hidden Fortress." A New Hope really wasn't all that good, it was a basic space opera who's most impressive part was the special effects. The whoel Star Wars backstory didn't come into fruition until A New Hope was released and became popular. By itself it's average space opera at best. Actually, if you want to get technical the Hidden Fortress influence faded away after the first few drafts of the ANH screenplay. Phantom Menace has more in common with Hidden Fortress that the final version of ANH. How much of the saga's backstory Lucas had in mind in '77 is often debated in SW circles, but nobody can deny that subsequent installments utilized elements that were developed but shelved for the original "Star Wars" movie. New Hope may be space opera, but it never had any pretentions to the contrary. Since 1977 Lucas has billed it as such, readily citing his influences from Flash Gordon to Kurosawa. Only the fans have raised the OT (particularly Empire) to dogmatic levels. Like it or not, these were kids movies from day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Pinche Haro! Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 is that guy like mark hamill's illegitimate child? they just look too much a like not to be related i'm not much of a star wars fan...but i'll just watch the mark hamill clone just for the hell of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Actually, if you want to get technical the Hidden Fortress influence faded away after the first few drafts of the ANH screenplay. Phantom Menace has more in common with Hidden Fortress that the final version of ANH. How much of the saga's backstory Lucas had in mind in '77 is often debated in SW circles, but nobody can deny that subsequent installments utilized elements that were developed but shelved for the original "Star Wars" movie. New Hope may be space opera, but it never had any pretentions to the contrary. Since 1977 Lucas has billed it as such, readily citing his influences from Flash Gordon to Kurosawa. Only the fans have raised the OT (particularly Empire) to dogmatic levels.Like it or not, these were kids movies from day 1. That is true, only the first half of HF and ANH really seem similar. Part of my problem with the notion of him having this elaborate backstory was the early scripts, which were very different and featured different characters, but hey, I'm not much of a Star Wars buff anymore. The funniest thing is that no matter how much people bitch and whine about the prequels or Lucas in general... We all still go to see the movies. No matter how much I dog on it or complain, the fact remains that Star Wars was a big part of my childhood, and that kind of attachment won't go away just because of Jar Jar Binks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 No matter how much I dog on it or complain, the fact remains that Star Wars was a big part of my childhood, and that kind of attachment won't go away just because of Jar Jar Binks. Heh...if Lucas had made Phantom Menace (or something resembling it) in 1977 instead of New Hope, I guarantee you that half the members of this board would have grown up sleeping in Darth Maul jammies, while sleeping between Jar Jar sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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