Chronocidal
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Yeah, Yamato needs to see that cel NOW. There's about 5 things right off the bat that are incredibly wrong, based on that cel. I guess we can chalk a lot of it up to inconsistency in animation.. but painting it in the current colors would be akin to using Virgin Road as the primary reference for all the 1/60 VF-1s.
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Except, it's not in line. It just stops. I dunno why this one in particular is so inconsistent between lineart and animation. I mean.. even the shape of the plane is different.
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I'm just glad that none of the hideous parts will be too difficult to de-ugly. The pink stripes will come off easily enough, and the ankle rings aren't at any significant risk for scratching. Toughest part will be the shoulders. I've never tried to take apart a VF-19 yet, but I wonder how hard it would be to mix and match pieces between the various versions. If it's not too much trouble, I might wait for a sale and stock up on VF-19Fs for spare parts. I still would prefer Yamato just go into full-bore mold-milking mode, and release a low-vis, plain white, or kit version. This is the first mold since the YF-21 to get more than 3 separate versions released. Over the entire Macross universe, I'd probably place the YF/VF-19 as only behind the VF-1 in overall popularity. On the Hasegawa side of things, it's the only kit besides the VF-1 to get the 1/48 treatment, and I see more customs of the YF-19 kits than anything else besides the VF-1s. While it's definitely not in the same price category as the 1/60 VF-1s, I still want to see Yamato make more of them, and I'd gladly keep buying them, because it's both my favorite VF design, and an amazing piece of engineering. I want to see as many of these made as possible... just.. I want the possibility of getting them in good colors. I don't think painting them is really a viable option, so that means molding them in different colors. I keep holding out hope that they'll make versions based on the Master File designs. They're already clearly pulling material from that book for the markings. I'd love to see them release versions that those markings would look good on.
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Well, think of it like the blue "movie" Alto VF-25 release.. it was different, no one bought it because they thought it looked dumb, and it got marked down heavily in clearance sales. The color didn't bug me, so I was happy to get a VF-25F with super packs at a huge discount. Yamato may have learned with the VF-22s, but this is one valk I would LOVE for them to overproduce. In its standard colors? Yeah, it's ugly. But this is also the absolute best candidate for making customs, since it's white. If I saw these on clearance with a hefty discount, I would pick up multiples just for repainting, and I'm sure a lot of people here would do the same.
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Very good point, I did get something recognizable. I do kind of wonder how these film cel things work though.. do they cut up one entire movie to be divided amongst every LE set sold, or do they just reproduce some specific scenes, so some people might get duplicates? If they aren't entirely random, I do wish they'd limit the selection to more recognizable scenes. I'd feel really bad if someone managed to get frames from in between the Zentraedi dialogue in the opening, or the bit at the end with Minmay counting, since all you'd get is a bunch of black screen.
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You know.. I thought of something. There's a part of me that is really hoping this scheme doesn't change at all, and retains all of its current uglyness for the final release. Because that might mean somewhere down the road, this one winds up in the same position as all those M&M VF-22s that HLJ can't seem to sell, and always marks down to 50% off. If that happens here, it'll be a huge benefit to the people who want to make custom VF-19s. Barring an eventual unpainted kit release, of course... I know it's not likely at all, but I will keep hoping it happens.
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Man, those Supernova YF-19s are so beautiful.. it really irks me Yamato didn't do that scheme themselves. Well, maybe second time around, they'll pull it off. I'm eagerly awaiting some hint that they're planning an update to the YF-19. In the meantime, I wonder if anyone makes those markings in 1/48 scale now...
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Mine wound up arriving safe and sound, apparently it just got delayed somehow from CDJapan. Loving the extras, but didn't get a chance to watch it yet. I envy you folks who got good film cels though. I wound up with a series of frames showing the stage before the scene involving the micloned Zentraedi. No characters in the shot, just a picture of the stage banner with the UN and Zentraedi insignias. Now to go wait for the PS3 to hit bargain basement prices so I can play the game, and download the old PS1 DYRL game.
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Ahh, got it then, that makes sense. I checked all the Yamato items and everything was pretty much back up to normal prices, though a lot of items seem to be permanently marked at 10% off. The GNU figures are still 80% off though, which really is a nice price for those. I picked up a YF-19/YF-21 pair, and while I'm a little disappointed they don't have thigh swivels, and like to pop apart easily, they look pretty awesome guarding my entertainment system. I think I would have felt really ripped off at full price, but $8 a pop feels just right.
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I just realized.. I thought you were just joking.. then I zoomed in. I think someone did build that out of a toilet seat.
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Wait, the sale is still going? What items are still discounted? I might be tempted to grab another VF-11, just to make my shipment with the DYRL Cannon Fodder VF-1A a bit more cost effective.
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I probably should go ahead and stick to HLJ from now on as well, but I just noticed they've got the VF-19F, and VF-17D with packs set to "order stop".. I'm not too concerned that they'll run out of stock, but I'm surprised because I don't remember that happening with Yamato preorders before. Bandai's preorder shenanigans has made me paranoid I guess. I've got preorders for all three (the 19F, 17D, and 19P) at AmiAmi now, so I'm not worried about getting them, but I still prefer getting stuff via FedEx here.
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I'll tentatively preorder this one there, but I wish I could combine shipping for the VF-19F and VF-17D I might cancel and preorder them all from HLJ to combine them later.
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Oh no trouble, I thought you were talking about the wing stripe, since that doesn't line up in the animation, but does on the lineart from earlier. I was just noting that in general, the markings they have on there so far don't match up with the animation.
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Actually, no, the stripe can't line up, because it's not there. The stripe doesn't even continue past the wing-glove in the original. Ugh. Oh well. I get the feeling those stripes are all going to be stripped off anyway, so not a huge deal, but still.
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Ok, good, so the ankles are supposed to be gray (or whatever they are that isn't yellow). That changes things a bit. I mean it's obvious they just painted a Fire Valk up in these colors, but I hope they fix that. The yellow really is hideous on that design. At least in fighter, it's mostly covered. I don't get the yellow pieces of the shoulders though.. those don't look painted, they look like they shot a test part in yellow. But yeah.. they need to check the colors more carefully here. They missed the tops of the feet, the ankles, and even the entire shoulder fins, which should be blue apparently. Also, the front edge of the canopy frame should be black like on the other VF-19s so I hope they don't forget that. I kind of do wonder what they were thinking when they designed the paintscheme on this plane though. If it weren't for the random yellow shoulder pieces? Sure, it looks fine. But that, and the blue speaker fins just throw the entire thing off.
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Now.. if only all that yellow was the same gray as the intake covers... Looks really good, but yeah, the colors make my eyes hurt. Random question though... are the wing stripes supposed to line up, or do they actually have that disconnect near the hip/wing glove joint?
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VF-171EX Nightmare still available through BBTS preorder
Chronocidal replied to Qintar's topic in Toys
You have to type the exact name of what you're looking for, I always type just the number designation since that's usually right in the title. Glad to hear some folks are getting theirs now from BBTS, I wound up canceling mine after getting one from Nippon Yasan. -
Glad I was right, and didn't glue my intake covers in. Now, if they'd just had the sense to do that with the super packs too, we'd all be happy.
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He's talking about online retailers, and there were definitely certain ones that had their orders cut massively, down into the single digits in some cases.
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Aircraft Super Thread Mk.VII
Chronocidal replied to David Hingtgen's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Yeah, no. That doesn't make sense at all. If you can't tell the difference between, "Hey, this clothing feels so tight I can't breathe well" and, "I'm getting lightheaded for some reason," you have no business anywhere near an aircraft, let alone any moving vehicle. That's two entirely different things. -
Yeah... I'll probably buy one, but I think.... this one is -begging- to be stripped down. Those colors just don't look good. Looks like someone went crazy with pastels on it. I hope it's just bad lighting, but that red really looks lousy, and the yellow just clashes horribly. Actually.. that's not even red. It's salmon. On the other hand.. hooray for normal looking colors on the intake covers.. but really? Gray landing gear? Is that canon?
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Actually, you can definitely force them in the wrong direction. I tried it once, but it might stress the socket, so I'm not going to keep them that way. The pins are squishy enough plastic to do it though. I'm just waiting for the super packs, then I'll be gluing the pins into place once the new wings are on. I still can't believe anyone ever thought that stupid setup was a good idea.
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I should say, they're very transformable, they're just a bit fragile, and the potential to scratch up paint or decals is high. You can take precautions to keep the impact of transforming minimal, but you'll likely have to touch things up if you do it frequently. They just aren't intended to be transformed so often as the toys. They are models after all. I wouldn't let that deter you from getting one (or a few) since they're much cheaper and easier to obtain than the 1/60 ones, and the super/armored versions aren't exclusives. The kits seem to get reissued quite often.
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I should link you to the topic discussing the kits when they were first released.. they're very accurate, but quite a bit more fragile than the toys. Transformation depends on some friction tabs for the hip section too. You kind of have to balance what you want it for. For those of us annoyed with how ugly the v.1 DX was, the kit was a very nice representation of the design, and a lot of us just wanted an aircraft kit anyway. If you put a lot of work into the kit, you can make it very detailed, but transforming it will likely damage any painting or decals unless you use many layers of clearcoat. Bottom line really.. they can be beautiful. But you should pick whether you want to build it to be transformable from the start, because that will change how you approach it. There's a lot of detail that will need to be painted during assembly if you plan on ever taking it out of aircraft mode.