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I posted the name here: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...mp;#entry682258 on Nov 13 2008, and knew about it earlier than that. It's also been on the Compendium for a few weeks: http://macross.anime.net/wiki/YF-24

Nods. True, true. Nevertheless, the point was to point out someone else being bigoted...

slightly different image, but contains the majority of structures used in the image above:

How is it that they have too much money when others, specifically looking at North Americans and Europeans, have a longer history of building record breaking tall structures? Shouldn't we be celebrating the fact that the people of the UAE (and by extension other countries in the region around it) having reached a developed economic state and are able to invest in record breaking tall structures?

Well, there's always the Monty Python tactic, and I quote, "run away!".

I don't see it. The smallest structure is either the Eiffel tower or the Tokyo tower.

IMHO, downgraded just means the use of more commonly manufactured (or easily available) components. Due to the economies of scale, they would be comparitively cheaper but otherwise offer a similar capability. There may even be cases were the commonly manufactured components have a superior capability. For example, the leg micro-missile launchers - being standardized on a lot of other VFs or their FAST packs, they would be relatively cheaper, and being an internal component (as opposed to being a changeable component in a weapon pallet system that the VF-17 has in the same position), they could hold a couple to a few more micro-missiles than a launcher of the same in the weapon pallet system. There are also upgrades to take into consideration. So, it may be possible for the "downgraded" VF-171 to meet or exceed the abilities and capabilities of a non-upgraded VF-17.

Death Star. Not only does it have the capability to warp around the galaxy, it can blow up planets, unleash hordes of smaller minion/pion mecha, and it has it's own gravity well! Just make sure you seal the ventilation shafts before going into combat...

and both ships probably do the same amount of damage

In the instance of the 7th New Macross Class Super Long Range Emigration ship, than yes, that is correct. I believe the shortend names for the two ships are Battle 7 and City 7.

NMCAC is an English fan made term. The correct name of the ship is "Battle Class". The Compendium states that the Vinderance group is a terrorist organization. However, given that Wilbur Garland is a UN officer, it may be better to consider it an attempted coup d'etat.

<sigh> no. (feels like this conversation is repeating itself as I go and get my translation notes) There are 25 known Battle Class Stealth Attack Variable Space Carriers. There are less than 15 known (as the specific number has NOT been confirmed) New Macross Class Emigration ships with a Battle Class Stealth Attack Variable Space Carrier as a component of the two-component emigration ship. Going by the text in "Kazutaka Miyatake Design Works", the Battle 13 came from the Macross 13 Fleet. It is implied that that is the 13th Super Long Range Emigration fleet, however it is not specifically stated that it is, or is not. The only other clue about the Battle 13 is that it is a "Next Age" Battle Class design. "Kazutaka Miyatake Design Works" also identifies the Saratoga II as a "Macross 13 Fleet Carrier". It doesn't say if it is the only one of it's class, or is the basis of all the ships in the Macross 13　(naval) Fleet*. Unknown if there is, or is not a restriction. To date, only the Macross 13/Battle 13 was shown without an emigration fleet; though as it appeared from the Factory Satellite in Earth's orbit, it isn't too much of a stretch to presume that a City ship was nearby or in the process of construction. *The text uses 艦隊 (naval fleet/armada), which is quite different than the 船団 used to describe the emigration fleets. Perhaps it's intent is to convey that the 13th fleet is more militarized?

Opening? http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AA%E3%...%83%A7%E3%83%B3 (as opposed to ED (ending).)

I'm not sure if such a thing exists. It's starting to look like some things (I'm looking at you, fleet numbering!) aren't really thought out or are an over-catagorization of things.

The Jamming Birds are a bit more than that - they are VF-11D Customs. In this case, it's a lot clearer what the differences are: Regarding the MAXL question: All info (as well as linkies) found here: http://macross.anime.net/wiki/VF-11

I think the technical name is "Zentradi Varient (standard adjectives and descriptors) Battle Big Ass A & B".

Big ass emigration ship A and Big Ass emigration Ship B

Macross Plus wasn't that big of a hit in Japan. At the very least, it was only a blip on the anime radar for a limited period of time (say 1 episode every 2 or 3 months for a year, max), and only available at rental shops. Macross 7, on the other hand, was on TV for 2+ years, followed by a video release - making it very visible. Macross F has just finished it's run, and it's the prime reason the publication is being made (it's created the interest). The other thing to consider is - what else can be added to the Macross Plus storyline? If anything, only a lead up to Isamu's being transferred... but would that make a good character story? And with the wrong artist, a mecha-action focused story would be really, really terrible.

Hmmm... looking at it from a publicists point of view (which I am not), it doesn't make much sense to keep the star both out of the loop and away from the public eye for an extended period of time. (My view is, of course, coloured by the Japanese and Korean presentation of musical stars - which remain firmly in the public eye as long as they are hot, and only disappear for a break when they work on a new album; with it's associated dance routines, etc.. It's not a lifestyle for anyone but the committed.) Regarding time diliation: I wonder how much of that is due to the fold rifts/disolcations/fractures and how much is due to the actual fold itself? I'm still not confinced that the in-bound flight Sheryl et al were on at the start of the series was anything but a short range flight (and I'm going to leave that vague other than define it by a timelimit: 8 to 16 hours for the people inside.)

As I said earlier: There is no further information on them (that I have come across) and they are not identified as being part of the numbering (nor are they indicated as being not part, but the implied meaning is that they are not part of the numbering, and are simply copies of the 5th New Macross Class combined ship.)

Maybe he's referring to the OVA releases...

Could be, but couldn't it also mean "Galaxy Fleet Tour"? Presuming that it could be (a tour of the Galaxy), wouldn't it make more sense for the passengers to be in a larger vessel, such as the civilian ship Myung uses in Macross Plus to be transported to Earth? From a passenger comfort point of view, it doesn't make much sense to have a hundred or so paying customers couped up in a small cabin for a multi-day or multi-month journey, right? From consideration of that, and my having read somewhere that the Macross Galaxy Fleet was close enough to allow regular transport flights between the two fleets, I am of the understanding that that particular flight originated from the Macross Galaxy Fleet. (Again, I have to stess that I'm probably basing this on info that I read in Japanese...) I am open to agreeing that the Macross Galaxy Fleet is (just) outside of the Segittarius Arm and the Macross Frontier fleet is (just) inside of the arm.

Have you tried Animate? I was at the local store yesterday, and I saw five or six copies, each, of this book and the Pash book on Macross F. I also saw the 2nd series of cards for the first time (no, didn't buy. Not getting sucked into that.)

Yes, let's keep Star Trek and Star Wars out of a MACROSS discussion. (there are other forums for that )

No. Yes, there has been 30 Megaroad Class Fleets, but there has not been 25 New Macross Class fleets. There have been 25 Super Long Range Emigration fleets with a Battle class Transforming Stealth Space Carrier (I think that's the correct term for them, not checking my notes here) indicated as existing in Macross, to date. Of those 25 fleets, some have been the New Macross Class, some have been the Island Cluster Class, and some have been other class(es). For example, the Macross Galaxy Fleet is neither the New Macross Class nor the Island Cluster Class. For further info, see: http://www.macrossroleplay.org/forums/index.php?topic=2017.0 (specifically Emigration Fleets and Super Long Range Emigration Ship Types and Fleet Composition.)