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Episode 3 rocked! Good balance between the bullshit and mecha/space action!

Something to consider is that the IN-BETWEEN frames today are far-far-far better than they ever were. Macross had fantastic designs, and many closeup shots were drawn beautifully, but the average frame of animation was pretty terrible. Sloppy and quickly drawn, no detail, etc etc. Macross7 is pretty horrible in this regard too. Most 80's Mecha OAV were definately drawn better, with more time devoted to the inbetweens. EVA was animated very well too, but there were so few actual Mecha scenes... The TV stuff today is pretty awesome though... shows like Aquarion are amazing. SO much detail on the inbetweens! I wonder, is it computer animation or is it just a bigger budget?

I like the Hasegawa airplaine kits. LOTS of detail for a 1/72! Much more than you see on your typical old-school Revell/Monogram or Testor's kit. Very modern kits cast with all the latest bells and whistles. They don't transform, but look much more beautiful in fighter form than anything else you can buy (built or unbuilt) Something you might want to try is the Bandai VF2SS kit (from MacrossII). It's a snap-together kit molded in color. Easy construction, and LOTS of parts! Not too much detail, but it's pretty solid.

I think a lot of it is that many of us are much older than we were when we first watched those old 80's anime, and have thus learned to appreciate better story telling. I sometimes think that those old anime stories I loved so much might actually be utter trip, but nostalgia plays tricks on the memory. Then again, Macross really was great, Bubble Gum Crisis was pretty damn original (for it's time) and no one can deny that Gundam REALLY tried to tell a compelling story. I give you 3 examples of great anime... and how many crap anime am I not naming? Back in the day, anime was hard to get, and even harder to fan-sub. You had a filtering process - people wouldn't waste time discussing crap anime, much less translating and fan-subbing it. I mean, HG imported Macross, NOT GOD MARS (ugh, what a piece of crap that show was). Early fans LOVED Gundam and GE999. AnimEigo imported BGC to help start the anime crazy (they also imported MADDOX-01, utter crap!) Ugh... Project A-KO. One of the first otakish anime I ever watched (with the horrible dub!) and I LOVED it, because there was nothing to compare it to. Show it to a non-fanboy today, and they will NOT be impressed, though back then even non anime/sci-fi/comic book fans would think that A-KO was somehow special. There's also changing themes to consider. You just might not be "into" the topics they like to anime these days.

Effect, that's a great point -- The whole Coordinator thing is crap from the very start. Unexplicably, amazingly, and utterly superior human beings, who just "know" things that experts who've devoted their whole lives to cannot figure out (i.e. the Gundam OS, the ability to pilot mecha, etc. etc.) You would think that if the Coordinators actually were so amazingly superior to normal human beings, they would never have needed to steal the Mobile suits - just design your own as a weekend science class project, and then go take over the Earth with them.

So... MAJOR FLAME/TROLL ALERT.... Is Seed the dumbest, least compelling, and unoriginal Gundam installments ever? Doest Seed Destiny any better? DISCLAIMER: I ask this only having watched the disgusting, horrible dub on Cartoon Network.

I had similar experiences back in the day with my IMAI designed Monogram "Go-Bots" (Legios & Mospeada). The plastic was so fragile... I was a kid, I did stupid stuff like strip the paint off using amonia. Make the plastic even more brittle. Luckily the pieces were molded kinda thick.

Ugh, 1,2600en is way too expensive. That's going to cost you around $300 + shipping to get the armor and a valk to display it on. I'd rather drink that money (in the form of Vodka)

It's the legs & arms on the WOTW mecha. They really had an "alive" way of moving around. Like the way we move our arms & legs, as opposed to the way the Honda ASIMO robot moves mechanically and unnaturally. Now that I think about it, those WOTW mecha moved a lot like Octopuses and Squid under water. That smooth, coordinated flowing movement... totally creepy! (Did you know that giant squid have a whole seperate brain & nervous system attached to each arm, that are coordinated by the central brain? When prey moves by an arm, the sub-brain does ALL of the work involved in catching it!)

Man you have some serious anger issues. Deep breath... HG is just a bunch of guys trying to get by and make a living. They made a cartoon franchise that's lasted 20 years, kicked the crap out of every other cartoon back in it's day on US TV, and made a lot of people very happy for a long time. Are they going to protect their ability to make money with the Robotech and Macross products they licensed back in the day? You betcha. You'd do the same. If you didn't, you'd be a fool.

Is the 1/48th resin valk about the same size as the size as a Yamato 1/48? My yammy's HUGE....

I've heard here & there that they are going to do the rest of both shows as "season 2". You figure they want to draw it out to keep people coming back. US TV usually doesn't have 50+ episode seasons. Personally I wouldn't have attention span for it...

Personally... I think both Macross (orig TV & Movie) & Robotech BOTH have very juvenile, silly plots. That doesn't change the fact that I like them both a lot...

What else would be an example of this "soft" pvc? Is it the type of stiff plastic that you can easily mark up with a fingernail? I have a very old, 4" Tall 1/200 Gundam F-91 from the early 90's. It's stiff, shiny plastic, but the shoulder fins were definately the sort of plastic I could snap or mark up. Are these made entirely of this material?

So it's been a few years since this thread was started -- Anyone have anything new to report? I'm considering getting a Deep Striker - It's the ultimate machine from the Gundam Sentinel universe, and one helluva impresive looking toy. However, some of the things I've read here are making me apprehensive about it.

The XB-70 inspired who to make which anime?

Think about it this way.... Models, Toys, Books; they are all mass produced items. There are THOUSANDS of VE-1 Ostrich toys out there. How many Gunbuster cells are there? 30 minutes per Ep, say 10 frames a second. That's 108,000 cels total. Out of those 100k, say only 5% are interesting. That's a mere 5000 cels..... and EACH ONE IS UNIQUE! Guys, lets face it-- most of us are ANIME fans. Thats ANIMATION. Don't lose sight of that. Cels are a 1-of-a-kind, real piece of the most defining aspect of this crazy Japanese stuff we all love.

I thought there was already a thread on this one. love the MS's in it. 322928[/snapback] You know, sometimes it's better to let sleeping threads sleep.

Baronv, that Voltron cel.... IS NUTS! That's a real piece of anime history you have there.

Damn Noriko! That's one helluva a find. I'd have charged upwards of $900 for a cell like that.

This particular Gundam gets my motor humming like a 'Stones tune. http://www.gundamstoreandmore.com/ban915914.html

Sorry but I wasn't entirely clear with that post. I meant to say that the REAL Yamato VF-11B is sturdier than a BOOTLEG *VF-19*.

From http://www.gearsonline.net/gundam/sentinel.php More goodness -- my FIRST Gundam kit and still my favorite. Someone brought this back for me from Taiwan back in 1988.

Just going to say this once. Gundam Sentinel Mech designs = #1

I will say this -- After getting my hands on a Yamato VF-11B, I can say for sure that the bootleg toy is MUCH tougher-built than the Yamato. You can actually play with the bootleg and not expect it to break, much like the original 1/55 Taka/Bandai VF-1's. Honestly, I'm a little afraid every time I transform or re-pose my Yamato 1/48th VF-1. Sure, they are VERY different beasts (especially in terms of surface detail) but Bandai sure does make a tough PLAYABLE toy, and these Bootlegs are *almost* as tough. Like I said before, I gave one to a 6 year old, and it's been 3 months; he hasn't destroyed it yet! Hell, I'd strongly recommend these as toys for kids. They are much cheaper than any comparable transform, and way cooler!