jenius

You don't need to keep arguing your opinion.... it was settled.

Definitely this. The VF-25 metal ball joint shoulder definitely has not aged well.

Quantifiable? You're not doing that at all. In fact, you're going out of your way to avoid "Quantifiable" because it refutes what you say. How many countries did it have to air in to be "large"? How many markets did it have to penetrate? "I think not a lot of people like it today" is as close as you've come there... That's a very convenient thing to say since any cursory google search of Robotech will define it as a "Hit show from the 1980s that aired over most the world." That's helpful. Bizarrely, if I run a search on these things my numbers are very different. Maybe Seto draws the line for "large" at something that would have 15 million hits or more and I would say something that hasn't had a successful sequel since 1985 and still generates about 9 million hits was large and impactful (my Robotech search results in 14.5Million hits, Thundercats returns 20.5 million). There you have it, a quantifiable end to this debate and we can all choose where we fall.

Whoa! Loving the little pilot figure. What's the side by side picture saying? They made the thighs larger or it has an extension gimmick?

It will be mine....

Have you offered definitions of "large" and "Impactful"? The sense is that your idea of "large" is like "top 10 of the decade" and "impactful" is specific to today rather than in its era. You speak of the 'declining fandom of Robotech', a show that was on almost 40 years ago and has had a continued (though declining) fandom since then as proof it didn't have an impact... but it is the opposite. The fact there was such a large fandom from 40 years ago that it is measurable by any means today shows it had impact. The fact there are volumes of merchandise, failed attempts at sequels by a company that had a history of only being motivated by quick cash grabs, proves there was a "large" audience there. This is just haters trying to hate.

At least the super parts are included.

It's the last paragraph where you continue to be wrong. It was a modest hit, created plenty of fans who craved more, and comic book creators tried to cash in on that. Their failure to produce quality products, much like HG's sequel attempts and Matchbox's merchandise ushered what could have been something bigger into an early grave. Saying "yeah but today not many people care about it" doesn't mean it never did well. ALL of my friends owned at least one Robotech product, or Jetfire. Your idea of "large" and "impactful" is not "bigger than average" and "generated a lot of merchandise, developed a robust fandom, and inspired a lot of kids and writers". You have some other definitions you're playing by but I disagree with them.

It seems like a part that can be drilled out and replaced with a metal dowel if you could find one of the right diameter. Really good to know about this issue though, seems like it will be a widespread thing.

Obviously, you're entitled to the opinion, but I feel like you ignore your own arguments to make your point. There was so much demand for ANYTHING Robotech that indie companies crapped out comics by the truckload to try to make a buck. The sheer volume absolutely is telling. I would argue that Robotech was a very brief hit that left a large mark on, compared to most drivel from the 80s, a lot of people. By no means the largest, but still, a not insignificant amount of people. It could have been much more impactful had it been created by a company that wasn't just looking to make a buck on other people's hard work, a company that had deeper connections, and if the license wasn't sponsored by a toy company that was out of its element. If HG had connections to the comic book industry like some of the major TV companies did, things might have been very different. Coming in 40 years later to a forum that still owes much of its existence to this show and saying "it's not impactful" just strikes me as willfully obtuse. I guess we all have different goal posts here for "large" and "impactful". Certainly nothing I've ever done has reached as broad an audience.

Wow!

I was referring to when Robotech comics first started getting pumped out when a bunch of kids were around wondering why that show never got a second season.

Doesn't the sheer volume of Robotech crap argue against your point though? Clearly there was a large audience hungry for more and getting nothing from HG so they hoped comics would scratch the itch... It didn't work out well. I don't know, maybe I'm just interpreting things differently.

With the super parts on and the wings canted downward, it gives me a Klingon ship vibe.

Thanks, I'm thinking about getting a 3D printer this holiday season.

It may have felt like an ad hominen, but it wasn't. Just a reflection on the fact that Robotech had a pretty large and clear impact on a lot of folks here. Had Robotech been the child of a company that wasn't just a cash-grab licensing outfit, it could have been much more impactful for sure. It's true, it wasn't as impactful as a great many things from the 80s. Saying "it wasn't impactful" though is setting a subjective, arbitrary bar that the words you are typing, in the location you are typing them on, undermines the argument. The sheer volume of trees wasted on garbage Robotech comics was impactful . As for impact, a lot of love for anime blossomed from the combine efforts of Robotech and many other 80s imports and helped foster that industry. You could never say Robotech is responsible for popularity of Japanese anime in the states, but it probably helped. So, Robotech compared to the Bible? Not impactful. Robotech comics impact on the comic book industry? Not impactful. Robotech compared to Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors or DinoRiders? Hey, Robotech was a big part of the inspiration of ExoSquad and that cartoon rocked.

Very nice! What printer are you using?

I wonder if there's pressure on the span in fighter mode that's causing the break over years of storage.

You guys have pictures? Sadly, I just broke a tab off an Arcadia Vf-1 hip using their trouble fighter mode display stands adapters... Grrr.

Feels kind of hollow when a guy on an English language Macross site probably pressing 50 years old says Robotech didn't have much of an impact.

You must have an issue with the position the neck plate is in... I haven't encountered that problem before. Transform back to Gerwalk and fiddle with the plate below the head.

I would have guessed a 'full set pack' like the YF-19 but since the next YF-19 reissue is no longer full set... I have no clue.

I think this is just the normal TV pilot Bandai has always used for this line.

Hopefully that also means repurposing of the YF-21 as a VF-22

A reissue of the ride armor??? WHY NOT THE BETA???