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Actually, yeah. Fwiw, my thoughts on the casting: Alba's more like Crystal than Sue Storm. But hey! it's Jessica Alba! Mr. Fantastic is a bit younger in the live-action than in the comics. Actually, he's perfect, except Jessica Alba is cast as his wife. That's just not frickin' fair! Johnny's supposed to be Sue's younger brother in the comics, but he looks beefier, older and has a crewcut in the live-action. He'll do good, however. Ben's a bit of an oddity. He's bricky and wear shorts in the comics as his trademark look. This live-action Thing is quite different and more like plastered than brick. But it's actually a good-enough approximation. But the uniforms r0x0r! it's blue/black. much better than the stale corny-blue of the comics.

interesting. What was the stinker in it?

seen it earlier. trailer looks mighty good. the trailer-music r0x. and Jessica Alba's uber-hot. without even trying. she should be the human-torch coz she's just sizzlin'. The Thing was kewl. He's wearing pants. Human Torch and Mr.Fantastic were just ok. Dr. Doom's seems to look badass.

Just browsing www.animenewsnetwork.com tonite and saw the reported lackluster box-office sales-figures of Appleseed movie here in the States. They mentioned Gits-2 did better last year. So I thought, man, what if DYRL is finally shown here in the States. What would the box-office figures gonna be? Will it do better or worse than Gits/Gits-2 and Appleseed? I don't know how Miyazaki's films did here, tho. I mean, many of us grew up with Macross (or even robotech) branding and have jobs and stuff now. And Macross is still such a namebrand among us old-geezers. We still buy it's toys, for $deity's sake. I'm just wondering if it'll do better or worse here assuming it can finally be shown in the movie-houses here in the States. What do you think?

geezus. They made her look alot more like Motoko of the Gits-movie than Aeon herself. Charlize is a hottie, but her Aeon is just atrocious in those promo-pics.

http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?ban931421 anybody here got it, yet?

here's the Theater-profile version (powerdvd-5/default-values). click for full-version.

here's the version from the R1. (powerdvd 5.0 / bright-setting in color-profile (default values). snapshot converted from bmp to jpg)

google turned out this completed custom: http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~takipon/char/vf11/p_vf11a.html

Most series had bad to average endings. Especially tv-series. But a few stands out with great endings. Maison Ikkoku -- the benchmark of all endings. Just Perfect. And it's old-school, too. Kimagure Orange Road movie -- None of that Shin-KOR poo. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien -- excellent ending.

taken from AOD-forum: Shucks! I had hoped Shawne would've also stated HG's "license" as gone, too. We'll prolly see ADV as the next sub-licensee for SDF-TV, since HG and ADV are close.

Where did you read that? there could be other reasons for them discontinuing the set. Like what other reason? I see this as a similar thing that happened to ADV's recent Sailor-Moon license-expiration.

so Animeigo's (and HG's) license expired on SDF-Macross? interesting.

oh sh*t! hope these guys are non-brownlisted legits.

play on numbers. Macross Zero == zero physical SDF-Macross ship SDF-Macross TV/SDF-Macross:DYRL == one prominent SDF-1 Macross ship Macross Plus == SDF-Macross ship plus the YF-19 and the YF-21 Macross-7 == seventh-version SDF-class ship. non-canon Macross II == two or more SDF-class Macross ships.

I would definitely recommend that as well. It is coming out in 4 episode sets (I have the first 2 so far). It seems to be easy to find here in North America. Yup. Gits-SAC is a highly-recommended series. It's a no-nonsense/no-bs sci-fi cyberpunk action-thriller series. It's got non-"traditional" mechas, but it's all good. Just try to avoid the region-1 SE-versions as there were production-issues, as Bandai fscked vol-1's japanese-dts, fscked the OST1+, switched the dts/dd-5.1 discs in vol-2, and fscked the english-dts on vol-3. Fwiw, an even better one is the current season-2 (2nd Gig) and hopefully it'll come out soon in R1:

According to Keith (if I remember correctly), whom I recognize as the most knowledgeable guy around here on the Macrossverse, DYRL Minmay was able to project and manipuate Spirita in much the same way as Basara. what????!!!! geezus. I highly doubt that Keith would even go THAT far. Do yourself a favor and watch DYRL already to know for your own sake.

ok, then. here's another fodder for yah. Some fan-speculation from me. In SDF-TV, the Zentraedi were all looking for reaction weapons, right? That's why they were hell-bent on retrieving the SDF-1 rather than destroying it. It's all explained in the compendium and stuff that reaction weapons means nuclear-weapons. With Zero, that definition seemed to have changed a bit and I'll explain why. It still refers mostly to nuclear weapons on human-side, but what of from the Zentraedi side? Now the Zentraedi had an unnatural/"un-alien" reaction/aversion/repulsion/whatever with protoculture, i.e. Minmay's singing. Kinda equivalent to us humans having an instinctive fear of snakes, wolves and what have yah. But the Zentraedi's were clones and their memories have all but jumbled up from previous generation and regeneration of the cloning process. They had a supreme prime directive to not mess with protoculture, but they already forgotten the reason why as much as they had forgotten music and ship-repair. Now in Zero, Sara piloted and controlled the AFOS-mecha thru her singing. She's either half or full protoculture. But the fact remains that she waged a full battle with the AFOS against both the UN and Anti-UN ships and jets. This is the first time we ever saw a protoculture wage battle. Could it be that Kawamori wanted to re-explain reaction weapons as protoculture-weapon controlled by a muse (i.e. sara, minmay)? That should be a good fodder as to why the Zentraedi's fear of humans/protoculture and reaction weapons. That the humans can be like the protoculture and control/unleash/field and wage battle with an army of powerful protoculture-mechas like the AFOS against them. I know this completely avoids the protodevlin stuff of M7. But hey! Just speculation, of course.

*sigh* there is no "tap-dancing" involved here in this discussion. not from me, at least. they're all verifiable and confirmable with all of the Macross series. fact: Zentraedi's are not humans. They are an alien race of clones. They may share some genetic code with humans, but they're still aliens. They are not a deprived form of humanity. So Minmay affecting the Zentraedi thru her singing is supernatural because of the fact that the Zentraedi were Aliens and she's a mere human. Minmay's singing did not have the same effect on her fellow humans. Bodolza later just accepted that it may be protoculture or protoculture-legacy. Where the heck did you get that music was designed to run super weapons in SDF-TV??? Switch to Zero: Sara's maybe half-protoculture or full-protoculture. She can only affect protoculture-stuff like the AIPHOS/AFOS-mecha and the stained flowers and rocks of the sanctuary and the forest. No other person, not even Mao, can replicate Sara's supernatural abilities. Aries and Dr. Hasford knew of Sara's supernatural abilities, but are not sure of their findings about her. Mao only had a limited protoculture-legacy abilities and only got amplified with "blood"-transfusion from the AFOS. None of the Mayan people had any. Not even Nutuk. Sara did not wage psycological warfare at all with her abilities. She waged a full battle. Sara did not power any human-made jets. Sara piloted the AFOS. Sara only controlled the AFOS-mecha as the weapon. Her control-mode is her specific vocals, i.e.singing. That's it. Nothing else. Nothing is implied nor contradict anything in SDF-TV or DYRL. Switch to Plus: No protoculture-legacy at all. Switch to Seven: Protoculture-legacy just got bastardized. --- The fact that you even think that the Zentraedi are not alien-beings, but rather deprived form of humanity just tells me that you seem to have mis-understood and/or lack more tv-time with SDF-TV and DYRL. So in essence, maybe _you_ need to re-watch SDF-TV and DYRL to fully grasp and understand the concepts presented in both and not just focus yourself on jets and mechas. Maybe then you'll understand that Zero's concepts are very consistent with both TV and DYRL, and fully comparable/compatible and even directly upgradeable to Plus. Zero just can not be compared to M7 at all, no matter what the M7-fans here or M7-detractors try to do in this thread. And for fart's sake, where the heck did you see the VF-0 turned into a bird in Zero??? Have you ever seen Plus? The way Sharon took over Isamu and the YF-19? Same thing. Same concept. Just different motivation and conclusion, i.e. Sharon was guiding Isamu to his death, whereas Sara's essence was capturing Shin and taking him away. edit: cleared up for quotes

I find that to be about as supernatural as a stadium full of rockers or ravers being whipped up into a frenzy when the band is pounding. It's only supernatural if that's the sort of angle you're looking for and you use the ideas presented in Macross 7, about all that spirita babble. The fundamental difference is, Minmay's just one individual and not a stadium full of rockers. And she affected only the Zentraedis in TV, and the Zentrans and Meltrans in DYRL. Minmay's just one person. Like Sara Nome's just one person. Your stadium full of rockers is M-7, not M-Zero. Whatever your ulterior motive is, I can't really comprehend why you keep trying to mix up M7 and MZero and come up with your rather ridiculous comparisons. Because the only direct tie-ins Macross Zero has to SDF-Macross and Plus is transforming planes. That's it. Anything else is something the fans have to manufacture afterwords, with supposition, semi-educated guesses, and out-and-out fanboy wishes. And because very little has any factual ties to SDF-Macross or Plus, we're left to default to the closest thing to what we seen in Zero, which is 7. All this magic garbage (my opinion) that we see in Macross 7 is being legitimized by Macross Zero, instead of being a one-off in its own series. Like it or not (and I do not), the clown faces and giant space monsters of Macross 7 is looking more and more like the future of every Macross show. If that is the case, let me off the bandwagon now. I've had my fill of the story and it's one that I don't like at all. oh for fart's sake, Roy Focker is in Zero. That's a friggin FACT. And that fact alone ties it directly to both SDF-TV and DYRL. Zero does not legitimize any of the magic of M7. Zero and 7 are fundamentally different in form, function, story and presentation.

we'll limit this to the Macross franchise presentations/stories. supernatural -- unexplainable/not-easily-explainable. myth-based or tradition-based or alien-heritage basis. (M-TV, M-Zero). magic -- trickery. human-manufactured "harnessing energy" from singers. (M7) What has any of that got to do with what was presented in Macross franchise? Her vocals (shamanic training) and blood-heritage. The APHOS will only respond to and controlled by her. Prolly some genuine inate ability courtesy of her protoculture blood-heritage. Same as Mao's sensing APHOS-head imminent capture by the Anti-UN sub. All those flowers and rocks were within the protoculture-ruins and was prolly seeded there before by the protoculture. It can be inferred that protoculture-"blood" was spilled or spread in the sanctuary and Sara affects all those that had been stained or mixed with Protoculture blood or dna or whatever. Recall the "rocks" that floated with Sara's singing were "red" and marked. common anime dramatic license. Kawamori prolly thinks it's better to present a visual-holo than just audio. Sara is a direct descendant of the Protoculture and trained by her father. It's not and never called Spiritia in Macross Zero. Sound-energy is a concoction of Dr. Chiba. Nothing was established about Basara's heritage in all of M7's episodes, whereas Sara's and Mao's heritage were clearly defined in M-Zero. Neither the APHOS nor Sara stole any human-spiritia from others to function or be more powerful, in contrast to the Spiritia-angle of M-7.

are we gonna get this game here in the US?

/me scratches head. I'm disregarding Keith's way-out-there response and any Macross-7 tie-ins, but I think you're quite wrong in that quoted line above. SDF-TV has supernatural stuff. Minmay's singing specifically affecting or softening up the Zentraedi is considered supernatural and un-scientific. It's so obvious. Turning to Macross-Zero, Sarah's singing and willpower controls the mechanical APHOS. There's nothing magical about it. It's just protoculture-tech presented in basic human mystical shamanic form. Her singing didn't affect humans, just like Minmay's songs did not affect humans in TV. So, I really don't know where you guys are getting this "magic" stuff from Macross Zero and why some of you continue to refuse to accept that MZero directly ties-in to TV/DYRL and Plus story and presentation. MZero is a genuine sci-fi story and not a sci-fantasy like M7.

ghost in the shell: stand alone complex 2nd Gig. has the kickass opening and a good and cool ending-song. then there're the op/eds of Girls Bravo, Kimi Ga Nozomu and Kono Mini. have to wait for the new Ah! My Goddess TV and Girls Bravo 2 next year.

fyi. Steve Cannon (Shiro of 8th-MS Team) is the one voicing Seabook. Tony Oliver is prolly just the ADR director.