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Everything posted by Duke Togo
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The prequel era stuff creates a lot of issues with the continuity, which is why I choose to ignore it.
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The Clone Wars took place 22 years BBY. The new generation of Jedi Luke was training were wiped out by the Kylo and his Knights of Ren, and the new Jedi Temple was burned to the ground. Whether or not any of the other students where included among the Knights of Ren is currently unknown. Ben is 30 years old as of TFA, and it's estimated the fall of the new Jedi Temple occurred when he was 15 or 16, in 20 ABY. The Rebellion against the Empire officially ends 5 years ABY with the Battle of Jakku, and 27 years after the Clone Wars. Ben Solo is born sometime in the year and a half before the Battle of Jakku. This gives Luke roughly 15 years to train new students if he started right away. That leaves 14 years since the destruction of the new Temple that no new Jedi have been undergoing training. Note: For the record, Alec Guinness was 62 when he filmed the original Star Wars
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The Republic was powerful enough by itself to stop the First Order before it really even got started, but chose not to. It's the reason why the Resistance exists: they saw the inaction of the Republic as an opportunity for the Imperial remnant forces to regroup and grow strong. It's the rise of Nazi Germany on a galactic scale, along with the appeasement and blind inaction that went with it. For many the Jedi are a myth.
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In another dimension? How many forums are left?
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No, not at all. I'm saying you don't seem to have been very engaged by the story of 7. I also strongly disagree with you over what makes a compelling hero. I was a lit minor in college and have been fascinated by mythology and mythological stories since I was a little kid. You aren't going to change my mind on what makes for a good hero. Again, Empire is held in such high esteem because it adds complexity and depth to characters born out of a fairly simple template. For instance, Vader just being pure evil isn't anywhere near as compelling as Vader being a fallen Jedi Knight and father to the hero of the story. Luke disappoints Yoda and then goes on to lose his duel with Vader, and along with it his hand. Faults and failures add to the characters, not subtract.
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You're entitled to your opinion, and you don't have to follow the films from here on out. Free country, dude. Being you've only seen 7 once and you haven't been able to remember basic story points discussed within the movie, I'm not even sure why you're in here discussing 8. It doesn't sound like you were engaged by 7.
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Up until the movie, civilization wasn't depending on him at all. It was going along just fine. And no, I don't believe most people could withstand what he's gone through and still want to stand up and fight. He's a farm boy who had destiny thrust upon him. Ever since then he's known nothing but war and death, mostly at the hands of his family. Of course he walked away, 99% of us would as well.
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I'd like to put you in his shoes and see how you handle it. I'm sure you'd be real gung-ho to go after your nephew after already having squared off with your father in a duel to the death. It's called complexity, and it makes for more interesting and compelling characters. It's why Empire is a better film than Star Wars.
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Here's the thing, myk: Scully isn't a skeptic anymore, and I think the story loses something when she's walking around with her alien DNA. She has bought into it because she's living proof, and that's just less interesting to me. And why do they still call each other Scully and Mulder? They had a kid together. You'd think they'd be on a first-name basis.
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The_foul pretty much hits it on the head: he can't bring himself to face--and potentially kill--his nephew. He was put in that position with his father and can't bear to do it again. It's not that complex of an idea, guys.
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Um, they state exactly why he walked away in 7. No great mystery. He blamed himself for Ben's turn and the death of his other students, and exiled himself.
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Principle photography in slated to begin on 8 in the next few weeks (around two weeks later than planned), so whatever changes that were made to the script were minor.
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Much better and more coherent than episode 1. Also, Akira. I'm thankful they're moving off the alien conspiracy storyline for episode 3, as it was always my least favorite facet of the show. I'm much more a fan of the monster of the week.
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It is a bit of an incomprehensible mess which totally fails at world building and establishing its logic for the audience. There was a moment where I thought it was going to go super-meta, and Mulder was going to realize they were actually part of a fictional TV show. But no, it was nothing that interesting. I hope the other five episodes are better than this.
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On Demand is your friend
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It's Star Wars. If you're looking for something other than fantasy, I suggest you try one of the Star Trek threads.
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Kinda like the Falcon traveling across the galaxy in a small period of time? Or AT-ATs as effective machines of war? Or any one of a thousand things Star Wars has always hand-waved away? It's Star Wars; it's fantasy.
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This. Starkiller Base was built into a planet and it does move. One star = one shot. That's official canon.
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Well, now we know why they moved Star Wars: Avatar 2 is no longer scheduled for release that holiday season. Knowing that, they jumped at the chance for the money it'll bring in opening Star Wars then. The script re-write sounds like small potatoes, given that they've only delayed the start of principle photography by about two weeks. The rumors swirling around it were likely just that: rumors.
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I'm having trouble investing in Rebels. I'm on episode 11 of season 2, and I can't get past the continuity issues. The fledging rebel alliance has three Jedi along with A-Wings and a B-Wing five years BBY? And while I know and remember the Inquisitors being talked about in the old EU, how they're presented in the show creates even more problems when it comes to meshing with the story of the OT (never mind diminishing the importance of Kenobi, Luke, and Yoda, along with Vader and the Emperor, for that matter). The show isn't bad by any means, I just can't reconcile the issues it creates within the canon.