bake_art Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 (edited) Tatsunoko Pro has won the latest round in the ongoing Macross lawsuits. Presiding Supreme Court Judge, Hiroshi Fukuda, has dismissed Studio Nue's appeal, recognizing and cementing the ruling that Tatsunoko Pro owns the copyright for Super Dimensional Fortress Macross. Having been dismissed by the supreme court, this case can not be apealed any further and the ruling is final.In a seperate court case, currently under appeal at the supreme court, the Tokyo High Court ruled that Studio Nue owns the character designs related to Super Dimensional Fortress Macross. the rest of the article is in here This could be why HG is making DYRL superposeables now. Edited February 23, 2004 by bake_art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bub Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Sad news indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Where'd they get this news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abombz!! Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 It was actually known that TP owned SDF Macross and BW owned the character designs. If I'm not mistaken this was just an appeal by BW in reference to the court case that happened last year. Doesn't really change anything since DYRL and the sequels were not really involved in the case. As for HG making DYRL toys.... they probably bought the license from whoever owned it in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 This is old news/no news... Nothing has changed, and this has NOTHING to do with DYRL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMax Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Oh well..... darn it...... as long as it it doesn't change the current situation worse, i guess i;m ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bake_art Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 This is old news/no news... Nothing has changed, and this has NOTHING to do with DYRL. That's good news then, I wasn't sure whether the meaning "copyright to superdimensional fortress macross" extended to DYRL or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Yeah, this seems like it is just the finalization of the previous lawsuit, in which Tatsunoko confirmed that they had anime distribution rights to SDF Macross. They own the show. Not the storiess, characters, designs, nor the rights to make sequels or derivatives, just SDF Macross itself. This isn't bad at all, because this has been the case for years. Even before any of this legal mess came up. It's only slightly different in that Tatsunoko can now distribute the tv series in Japan as well as internationally. This particular case does not specifically touch on derivatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 It's only slightly different in that Tatsunoko can now distribute the tv series in Japan as well as internationally. Are you sure about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 (edited) It's only slightly different in that Tatsunoko can now distribute the tv series in Japan as well as internationally. Not so. The memorandum is still in effect. Therefore, even though Tatsunoko owns the copyright to the animation, they still cannot distribute or air it in Japan- BigWest still retains the rights for domestic distribution. Edited February 23, 2004 by the white drew carey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Really? Huh. I coulda sworn that came up in the debate thread as one of the results of this trial. Still, makes sense. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Yawn. Nothing's changed. Same sh**, different day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 I posted the same info the other day over in the pinned legal debates thread in the Other Anime forum. The only news here is that the lawsuit over the line art is also being appealed to the Supreme Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 By the way, ANN hasn't been the most reliable reporter of developments in the Macross legal disputes. In fact, they often seem to be cribbing off of MW, and that could be what's happenening here. They may be looking at the same sources I was and (mis)translating 作品の基礎になるキャラクターの図柄については、別の訴訟でぬえ側に著作権を認める東京高裁判決が確定している。 as saying that there's been an appeal of the lineart copyright case to the Supreme Court. Let me see if I can get the attention of someone who actually knows Japanese... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Apparently...people don't read the other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 anyone ever get the feeling that no matter what develops nohing will really change? sorry to be the pessimist but yea..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Border Red Devil Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 anyone ever get the feeling that no matter what develops nohing will really change? sorry to be the pessimist but yea..... Heh.... yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druna Skass Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 anyone ever get the feeling that no matter what develops nohing will really change? sorry to be the pessimist but yea..... I'm starting to get the feeling that nothing's really going to happen in my lifetime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePoseur Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 By the way, ANN hasn't been the most reliable reporter of developments in the Macross legal disputes. In fact, they often seem to be cribbing off of MW, and that could be what's happenening here. They may be looking at the same sources I was and (mis)translating作品の基礎になるキャラクターの図柄については、別の訴訟でぬえ側に著作権を認める東京高裁判決が確定している。 as saying that there's been an appeal of the lineart copyright case to the Supreme Court. Let me see if I can get the attention of someone who actually knows Japanese... At least in that sentence there's no mention of an appeal. In fact the verb 確定している (or "kakutei shiteiru" for the Kanji impared) is usually translated as "set in stone" but in this case I'd go for reaffirmed or upheld. In fact, I thought I even translated the press release that came from if it is the one from quite a few months back... oh well. Again, nothing new. Tatsunoko Pro owns the footage to the TV show and Big West owns the characters/designs/likenesses; and like the Duke said, this has nothing to do with DYRL except in HG's twisted logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bake_art Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 Apparently...people don't read the other threads. ummm.... so, do you guys know when the yamato YF-19 with fast packs are coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 This was already a subject on the debate thread. There's nothing really that new to warrant a new topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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