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Posted
2 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

Several of the HMR releases definitely had missiles painted red that way.  I believe all of the Hikaru VF-1J and CF VF-1A versions had the fins and tips painted red.

The older ones are all white for the most part, but checking the vermilion platoon versions and those have red back there.

intro for the show only has white, but in a couple scenes it shows red and others I’ve seen are white by the fins. It’s very inconsistent in the scenes I was just checking 

Posted (edited)

For Hasegawa to focus on the mainly white versions makes sense, when they got around to making the weapons sets they were mostly focused on DYRL designs, which tended to adhere slightly more closely to realistic weapons markings.

Not that the black and red markings on the missiles was unrealistic, it just wasn't the type of marking you'd see on a production air-to-air weapon.

I'd still like someone to actually detail the seeker tips with a sensor of some type, rather than just giving up and going "I dunno, make 'em blunt." :pardon:

Edited by Chronocidal
Posted
2 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

I'd still like someone to actually detail the seeker tips with a sensor of some type, rather than just giving up and going "I dunno, make 'em blunt." :pardon:

I can’t remember which have made an attempt, but I do remember one with a little hole in the front. Maybe one of the recent kits, but I think it was one of the toys. As far as kits, you could basically take either a small drill or maybe a needle point file and make a small hole. Then some red or clear red for the sensor 

Posted
4 hours ago, Papa Rat said:

This Hasegawa set has the white. It’s sort of all over the place. 🤔
 

IMG_5852.jpeg

The mostly white missiles only exist in DYRL.

The red accent missiles are for SDFM.

The color coincide with the bombs.

Posted (edited)

UPDATE: What you've all been waiting for:

First, how to rescue 31 year old decals:

100_0012.JPG.1f47c2704cd0f9285b2df7cb98e3e66e.JPG 100_0013.JPG.e73ff3f5d4db3df6d30cc8ed6c349a98.JPG

Soak them in very hot water for 30 minutes, then carefully slide them onto new decal paper (used backing) and swish around with plenty of water to get rid of all the old, yellowed glue (as seen in the first pic!).


And now, the pictures:

100_0026.JPG.222f6541555079b275fe921b8e992eff.JPG100_0027.JPG.9855b699bdaea39fc852935e85247e2e.JPG

100_0028.JPG.7bb18ce7ab44c44622a28148a320dbed.JPG 100_0030.JPG.c3b6a9b8f210804e5003fe791197ea8e.JPG

With flash:

100_0031.JPG.26217f6defee165676336b91f15f8bb8.JPG 100_0032.JPG.968d0b0f38726e7dd81d158502838df9.JPG

 

Without flash:

100_0035.JPG.1a935fb324f3f0619ff8ad4c72a59d85.JPG  100_0034.JPG.7e75231548f1335a4d5a70a4f848909d.JPG

More pics:

100_0036.JPG.db5b03e7393369d963e0cf66bb64aef3.JPG100_0037.JPG.577a679ab9b5a92967089b7526894f73.JPG  100_0038.JPG.e813d6bb54748a6a85f6fb3456de31b4.JPG100_0039.JPG.8c7cc13d9fba666b8d15053796474bdd.JPG

Wing positions:

100_0040.JPG.e5a2ee6ff6a2514e376fdefd114647bb.JPG 100_0041.JPG.6729a0c776e7e7e1b4f1a0d59c959be3.JPG

Helmsman had too much blood wine:

100_0042.JPG.a9209d6adcfd52b663049c3a118e4be4.JPG

Stay tuned...

 

Edited by pengbuzz
Posted
28 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

UPDATE: What you've all been waiting for:

First, how to rescue 31 year old decals:

100_0012.JPG.1f47c2704cd0f9285b2df7cb98e3e66e.JPG 100_0013.JPG.e73ff3f5d4db3df6d30cc8ed6c349a98.JPG

Soak them in very hot water for 30 minutes, then carefully slide them onto new decal paper (used backing) and swish around with plenty of water to get rid of all the old, yellowed glue (as seen in the first pic!).


And now, the pictures:

100_0026.JPG.222f6541555079b275fe921b8e992eff.JPG100_0027.JPG.9855b699bdaea39fc852935e85247e2e.JPG

100_0028.JPG.7bb18ce7ab44c44622a28148a320dbed.JPG 100_0030.JPG.c3b6a9b8f210804e5003fe791197ea8e.JPG

With flash:

100_0031.JPG.26217f6defee165676336b91f15f8bb8.JPG 100_0032.JPG.968d0b0f38726e7dd81d158502838df9.JPG

 

Without flash:

100_0035.JPG.1a935fb324f3f0619ff8ad4c72a59d85.JPG  100_0034.JPG.7e75231548f1335a4d5a70a4f848909d.JPG

More pics:

100_0036.JPG.db5b03e7393369d963e0cf66bb64aef3.JPG100_0037.JPG.577a679ab9b5a92967089b7526894f73.JPG  100_0038.JPG.e813d6bb54748a6a85f6fb3456de31b4.JPG100_0039.JPG.8c7cc13d9fba666b8d15053796474bdd.JPG

Wing positions:

100_0040.JPG.e5a2ee6ff6a2514e376fdefd114647bb.JPG 100_0041.JPG.6729a0c776e7e7e1b4f1a0d59c959be3.JPG

Helmsman had too much blood wine:

100_0042.JPG.a9209d6adcfd52b663049c3a118e4be4.JPG

Stay tuned...

 

Looks very organic. The colors really give some depth 

Posted
4 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

UPDATE: What you've all been waiting for:

First, how to rescue 31 year old decals:

100_0012.JPG.1f47c2704cd0f9285b2df7cb98e3e66e.JPG 100_0013.JPG.e73ff3f5d4db3df6d30cc8ed6c349a98.JPG

Soak them in very hot water for 30 minutes, then carefully slide them onto new decal paper (used backing) and swish around with plenty of water to get rid of all the old, yellowed glue (as seen in the first pic!).


And now, the pictures:

100_0026.JPG.222f6541555079b275fe921b8e992eff.JPG100_0027.JPG.9855b699bdaea39fc852935e85247e2e.JPG

100_0028.JPG.7bb18ce7ab44c44622a28148a320dbed.JPG 100_0030.JPG.c3b6a9b8f210804e5003fe791197ea8e.JPG

With flash:

100_0031.JPG.26217f6defee165676336b91f15f8bb8.JPG 100_0032.JPG.968d0b0f38726e7dd81d158502838df9.JPG

 

Without flash:

100_0035.JPG.1a935fb324f3f0619ff8ad4c72a59d85.JPG  100_0034.JPG.7e75231548f1335a4d5a70a4f848909d.JPG

More pics:

100_0036.JPG.db5b03e7393369d963e0cf66bb64aef3.JPG100_0037.JPG.577a679ab9b5a92967089b7526894f73.JPG  100_0038.JPG.e813d6bb54748a6a85f6fb3456de31b4.JPG100_0039.JPG.8c7cc13d9fba666b8d15053796474bdd.JPG

Wing positions:

100_0040.JPG.e5a2ee6ff6a2514e376fdefd114647bb.JPG 100_0041.JPG.6729a0c776e7e7e1b4f1a0d59c959be3.JPG

Helmsman had too much blood wine:

100_0042.JPG.a9209d6adcfd52b663049c3a118e4be4.JPG

Stay tuned...

 

Good looking build! Also like the old decal transfer trick. Very cool. 

Posted
9 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

UPDATE: What you've all been waiting for:

First, how to rescue 31 year old decals:

100_0012.JPG.1f47c2704cd0f9285b2df7cb98e3e66e.JPG 100_0013.JPG.e73ff3f5d4db3df6d30cc8ed6c349a98.JPG

Soak them in very hot water for 30 minutes, then carefully slide them onto new decal paper (used backing) and swish around with plenty of water to get rid of all the old, yellowed glue (as seen in the first pic!).


And now, the pictures:

100_0026.JPG.222f6541555079b275fe921b8e992eff.JPG100_0027.JPG.9855b699bdaea39fc852935e85247e2e.JPG

100_0028.JPG.7bb18ce7ab44c44622a28148a320dbed.JPG 100_0030.JPG.c3b6a9b8f210804e5003fe791197ea8e.JPG

With flash:

100_0031.JPG.26217f6defee165676336b91f15f8bb8.JPG 100_0032.JPG.968d0b0f38726e7dd81d158502838df9.JPG

 

Without flash:

100_0035.JPG.1a935fb324f3f0619ff8ad4c72a59d85.JPG  100_0034.JPG.7e75231548f1335a4d5a70a4f848909d.JPG

More pics:

100_0036.JPG.db5b03e7393369d963e0cf66bb64aef3.JPG100_0037.JPG.577a679ab9b5a92967089b7526894f73.JPG  100_0038.JPG.e813d6bb54748a6a85f6fb3456de31b4.JPG100_0039.JPG.8c7cc13d9fba666b8d15053796474bdd.JPG

Wing positions:

100_0040.JPG.e5a2ee6ff6a2514e376fdefd114647bb.JPG 100_0041.JPG.6729a0c776e7e7e1b4f1a0d59c959be3.JPG

Helmsman had too much blood wine:

100_0042.JPG.a9209d6adcfd52b663049c3a118e4be4.JPG

Stay tuned...

 

That build is looking great!

I never new the glue could be removed from old decals. Always figured they would be ruined once you water to them. Thanks for the great tip!

Did you apply Decal Setter? Or another adhesive to make the decals stick?

Great Build.

Posted

Going to experiment with some complimentary underpainting on this little Valkyrie. So I’m thinking blue under the orange and a purple under the tan. Might look like 💩in the end but why not. 

IMG_5855.jpeg

Posted

@pengbuzz THANK YOU for the tip on the glue. I always thought it was the film that yellowed!? GREAT looking weathering and paint. I don't imagine they're the type of people to take their bird to the car wash!😁 - MT

Posted
3 hours ago, MechTech said:

@pengbuzz THANK YOU for the tip on the glue. I always thought it was the film that yellowed!? GREAT looking weathering and paint. I don't imagine they're the type of people to take their bird to the car wash!😁 - MT

No problem MT!! I thought the same thing, then I decided to test one of the "decals" that was just the copyright info for the set (Ertl seemed to be big on that back in the day). It turns out it's the glue for it!

On that note: in a pinch, if there isn't much glue left on a used decal sheet, just use a little watered-down Elmer's Glue. And keep in mind: PLENTY OF HOT WATER when trying to get the decals to release and to move around.

Also: mind where you have your Micro-Sol bottle. I just lost half a bottle when I accidentally knocked mien over,  and that's all I had left in the bottle. :(

I'll have to replace it in 3 months; everything is so expensive now, even white bread is a commodity. O.o

Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, nightmareB4macross said:

That build is looking great!

I never new the glue could be removed from old decals. Always figured they would be ruined once you water to them. Thanks for the great tip!

Did you apply Decal Setter? Or another adhesive to make the decals stick?

Great Build.

I first put them on a used decal sheet to pick up the glue from that. Then, I used Micro-Sol to make them conform (repeated applications, then a hair dryer on low for a few minutes). You can use Elmer's Glue if needbe (watered down a bit).

And yeah: it's just the glue turning yellow from UV. Once removed (and new glue applied), they seem to work fine. On really old one, you might want to use Micro-Clear liquid decal film to reduce the risk of shattering.

Edited by pengbuzz
Posted
31 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

I first put them on a used decal sheet to pick up the glue from that. Then, I used Micro-Sol to make them conform (repeated applications, then a hair dryer on low for a few minutes). You can use Elmer's Glue if needbe (watered down a bit).

And yeah: it's just the glue turning yellow from UV. Once removed (and new glue applied), they seem to work fine. On really old one, you might want to use Micro-Clear liquid decal film to reduce the risk of shattering.

Thank you.

No matter how refined we get, we always learn something new.

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