Sevket_Erhat Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 There are two books Shoji Design Works 2001 Shoji Design Works 2006 which one should I buy ? Are they worth buying ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Both are worth it. The 2001 page is actually mislabeled. It should read Shoji Kawamori MACROSS Design Works The 2001 is Macross lineart only. Has a lot more detail as to how the current designs came to be, but it only covers up to 2000. The other Design Works book contains his most famous work up to the print date. This includes Macross (including M0), Cyber Formula, Armored Core, Aquarion, Eureka 7, etc. Macross isn't the primary focus. There is a section for it, but if you want a more complete look at Macross, get the Macross Design Works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 If you are a Macross fan, then 'Shouji Kawamori Macross Design Works' is a definite must buy - just keep in mind that both books are more about explorations of how the artist went through the designing process, from rough sketches, rejects, to finished designs. A good compliment to the "Shouji Kawamori Macross Design Works" is "Kazutaka Miyatake Design Works Macross & Orguss." Do take note that there is a lot of Kazutaka Miyatake's art in Kawamori's book. It generally goes unnoticed by non-Japanese readers. If you are looking for more factual information on the abilities of VFs and other things, then you'll need to look for the "This is Animation: Macross ###" books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 (edited) From where can I get Shouji Kawamori Macross Design Works and Kazutaka Miyatake Design Works Macross & Orguss ? Edited November 5, 2006 by Sevket_Erhat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 First guess Hobby link Japan. Also try ebay and foggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 First guess Hobby link Japan. Also try ebay and foggle. HLJ does not have the older one unfortunately and ebay ones seem expensive. I'll keep checking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) I got mine (Shouji Kawamori Macross Design Works) via mail order here in Japan - the book is long out of print. You need to speak Japanese and be able to send money via a postal savings account. Not sure if this service is available in North Cyprus. I picked up the other two books in a bookstore. Edited November 6, 2006 by sketchley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Try Kinokuniya Bookstores if you can find one near you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Is it okay if I got second Kamawori book ? I mean does it cover the same material in the first book too or not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 No, it doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Try these: They aren't cheap but they are worth it! http://www.hlj.com/product/MOV01629 http://www.hlj.com/product/MOV01629 http://www.valkyrie-exchange.com/video-boo...uss-Design.html http://www.hlj.com/product/IPC35843 http://www.animenation.com/484435843x.html Suplemental books are the "This is Animation" books for the various shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briscojr84 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Looks like animebooks.com still has it as well for $40.00 at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share Posted November 7, 2006 Thanks for the links my friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 http://www.toysnjoys.com Are they reliable ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly4victory Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 NO! Even if you email them and they say it is in stock... they may not have it when you order. The first time I did business with them was fine but every time after that have been SOL. http://www.toysnjoys.com Are they reliable ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) How about http://www.animeshop.net/product_info.php?...6d5fc5591d10393 or http://www.animemultimedia.com/art-books-d...p?id=MACDGN-ART Edited November 16, 2006 by Sevket_Erhat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Sama Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 HLJ does not have the older one unfortunately and ebay ones seem expensive. I'll keep checking you can get it here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 you can get it here I wrote to them they don't have it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Sama Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 I wrote to them they don't have it wierd. their a reliable site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 wierd. their a reliable site. Here is what I wrote: Hi there when my order of Macross Design Works will be put in process ? And I want to know when will Mobile Suit Gundam Illustrated 2006 (http://store.animebooks.com/mosuguil20.html) will be available ? And their reply is Hi Sevket, Unfortunately, Macross Design Works is out of stock at the moment. We're doing our best to get this item back in stock. Mobile Suit Gundam Illustrated 2006 is out of print so we don't know when we can get that either. Sincerely, George Ruan www.animebooks.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Iknow this isn't completely macross related but could someone tell me what line are is in the new design works book for crusher joe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honneamise Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Iknow this isn't completely macross related but could someone tell me what line are is in the new design works book for crusher joe? There are 4 pages of C.J. : big lineart of Cordoba, a space shuttle with launch tower, 2 views of the Minerva, views and details of Galleon tank, Laocoon helicopter, Pirate Battleship, a smaller "charging battleship", 2 views of Fighter-1, Harpy, Siren, Gadfly, Ostall, PowerSuit, a laser Gun, the 8-wheeled hunter tank, a wheeled Bison Tank, a Hover-truck and 6 cars - that´s it, all are perspective views, no plan.views. Still not bad I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Please do not add anything apart from info on Kawamori book here. There is a new topic button you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briscojr84 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Please do not add anything apart from info on Kawamori book here. There is a new topic button you know I believe that stuff is in the latest Kawamori book, I haven't looked at mine in awhile though other than the Macross stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechinyun Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I believe that stuff is in the latest Kawamori book, I haven't looked at mine in awhile though other than the Macross stuff. I have been looking for this book too. Finally paid off! Ebay SCORE! Macross Design Works 21 bucks plus other book and super deformed vf-1d toy! Woot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 I have been looking for this book too. Finally paid off! Ebay SCORE! Macross Design Works 21 bucks plus other book and super deformed vf-1d toy! Woot. That's very nice. People that does not ship internationally does not appear in my ebay searches so I never came across this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechinyun Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 That's very nice. People that does not ship internationally does not appear in my ebay searches so I never came across this lol sorry to rub it in, just had to show off at bit at my good fortune. I saw this thread today, looked on ebay and this auction had 2 minutes to go, bid one dollar over and got it. I have tried all the shops that I could find online, all out of stock Ebay is the way to go. This book pops up quite a bit around $30 US most of the time. I will keep my eyes open for another one and let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevket_Erhat Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Thanks a lot I was pllaning to buy it from Toysnjoys.com but will wait for a little while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 There are 4 pages of C.J. : big lineart of Cordoba, a space shuttle with launch tower, 2 views of the Minerva, views and details of Galleon tank, Laocoon helicopter, Pirate Battleship, a smaller "charging battleship", 2 views of Fighter-1, Harpy, Siren, Gadfly, Ostall, PowerSuit, a laser Gun, the 8-wheeled hunter tank, a wheeled Bison Tank, a Hover-truck and 6 cars - that´s it, all are perspective views, no plan.views. Still not bad I think. Sounds very cool! Thanks! I hope I can get this book soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDeMaio Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I haven't seen the macross book (that was just won on ebay), but of the other ones, the one I liked the best was: Book of Valkyries: Tenjin Hidetaka Art Works of Macross. It's color art and really beautiful. Pasquale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I think it all comes down to preference. If one wants only the lineart, and especially some documentation on how the artist went through the design process (from various rough drafts to the final), then the design works are the ones to look into. For only finished artwork, Tenji Hidetaka's book is the better buy. Especially as it contains a Macross Zero CG art min-book/gallery near the end of the book. Sadly, there isn't very much on how Hidetaka goes through the process of actually creating his works of art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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