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Macross Δ (Delta) - Mission 8 - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
It was Engrish in that she was mixing it with Japanese, but fair point either way. The opening is a good ensemble song.. but as is typical of Macross shows the opening is never included in the series as a regular song typically, despite being on the albums. Though admittedly the ending song appearing in episode 5 implies that may not always be the case and it could be coincidence. SDFM doesn't count really, but Seventh Moon was never sung in universe to my knowledge, nor was Triangler (even after it got a Sheryl/Ranka cover) or Lion (except for the Service Medley.. which might count). Silent Hacker was a Reina song, you can see her singing some lines in the sequence. -
Macross Δ (Delta) - Mission 8 - READ 1st POST
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Just watched. I was very happy with this episode. It had a little bit of everything a good Macross show normally has, except maybe some triangle work (I'm sure we'll get an episode more devoted to that in time). The engrish song was good, but I think Azrael has it right, the ensemble songs are the weakest point for Walkure so far. Individuals have been great though. Freyja's song was fantastic and fit the mood of the scene great. I also love the first in series use of the fold resonance system (not counting the second Frontier movie with the earlier fold wave version of course). It is like taking the idea of the sound boosters and kicking it up to another level by not just amplifying the song's fold signature but giving a direct effect to a specific target (in this case Hayate). I do have a concern though it might ultimately end up being used to give VFs abilities not physically possible before and we then will rely on the "it works by using fold super science" to explain potential breaks in newtons laws or thermodynamics. We aren't there yet really.. but I hope Kawamori doesn't go too nuts with the idea (otherwise it will just be another lambda driver ala FMP!) Oh Messer. I guess his open wound enabled the Var chemical to affect him, even though there has been signs of his weakness before. Definitely seems he has something in his past that may make him more susceptible. The song helped him but clearly he needs some more in depth treatment since it appears to be back by the end of the episode. I got the sense Keith was somewhat depressed Messer got Var'd, he couldn't get his proper fight. It is notable he stopped attacking Messer once he realized it. Roid clearly wants to see more of how Walkure affect the ruins compared to Heinz. I heavily suspect he will want to eventually kidnap Freyja to help in whatever his long term plan is. Meanwhile, he and Keith are going to have to hash out the details of this fight. Bouge, well he had it coming. He is being impetuous at best and he earned the spanking he got from Hayate. As for Arad's comment about Hayate... I'm still not sure if that was a weird translation or not.. I'm going to wait and see before assuming anything. Great action, good music, some character development for Freyja, a little for Hayate. Solid B+. -
Macross Δ (Delta) News Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
Typically except for any holiday weekends.. most anime are straight aired (unless they are split cour as happens a lot lately, but Macross has never been done in this fashion.. yet anyway, but I expect we'd know that by now). -
Macross Δ (Delta) - Mission 8 - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
Haven't seen anything yet.. but I can't help but read stuff people say. It usually doesn't ruin it for me either way. GG is reporting their subs might take a little longer. Works out for me since I'm out of town with a shoddy hotel wifi connection. By the time the subs are out I'll be home. -
That's true, and wing mounting does play a role too.. most dihedral wings are base mounted such as commercial airliners. Fighters are small enough that the mounting does little to affect it as much as how the wing is tilted. I really should have remembered that.. considering I just flew on a C-17, and will again shortly.
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The official term is anhedral tilt of the wings, which reduces stability but adds to maneuverability which is ideal for fighters (and is in fact something Mirage points out in mission 3). I work on F-16s in the USAF, the main wings are pretty straight (they might have a very slight tilt like David says, 1 degree is hard to see up close) but the elevators have a far more noticeable anhedral angle. The opposite of this is dihedral which just means upward tilt of course which provides extra stability by forcing the plane to not tilt over. It basically makes it really hard to roll and it as a result preferable for large planes (which the AF calls heavies).
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I admit I am conflicted. I am not willing to afford a large assortment of anything. I originally thought I'd get the Sv-262Hs and VF-31J to get the two ace rivals. There is an allure to Mirage's VF-31C though. The color is one reason, but also.. I have a 1/48 VF-1J Max and it might be cool to have two family VFs (even though I've never gotten any of the Millia figures). There is also the obvious fact that Mirage is likely my favorite hero character so far. I only wanted Messer to display against Keith's VF (which I will get either way), but while I don't hate him, I'm not a big fan of Messer either. Back during the Frontier days it was easier. I was a college student, I couldn't afford DX VFs... I got a model kit and an older Yamato on discount. Now... I have money... I finally understand the danger of this hobby.
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Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
I'll be honest, I really don't know. That is just how it appeared to me. There are maneuvers that play with stalls like the kulbit as mentioned... but this is not my area of expertise. -
Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
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More like he started a cobra, went too far and stalled out into a flat spin and got lucky enough to level out almost immediately. -
Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
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That is what I meant by the bar that flips up (carrying a second bar with the arms) with the beam cannon which itself rotates so it is facing forward on top in Gerwalk. I am not great at description but I have a frame by frame gallery that makes it pretty clear. Also I am generally good at picking apart patterns and details due to being an engineer anyway. I am not at my home computer though to access all that stuff right now however, but somewhere in the episode 4 thread someone did post a gif of the transformation (I have one too, but again, can't get to it now). -
Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
I think they were traveling in a fold opened up from Windermere. Boosters we just didn't see is also likely. As for the gun, it is on the underside in fighter mode attached to a bar that moved upward with a second bar that holds the shoulder connections. The gun does a 180 on this bar for Gerwalk and detaches for Battroid (I freeze framed the transformation). In Fighter the design of the gun is such that it blends in with the fuselage really well to give the plane a smooth look. -
1 for me.. because my collection is small due to not being able to afford stuff like this before now. I imagine for cost reasons I'll get a 262Hs and a VF-31J (Messer) so I have the rivals.
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It is nice to know that years later after Frontier, even MisaForever is still the same person, who betrays their chosen character idols for the newest version each series, lol. Misa&KlanForgotten is a true fan indeed. (In all seriousness I am having simple fun of course... but they make it so easy).
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Ok.. it's probably been asked but I rather just ask again. I am not new to this forum or the toys... but I was active from when Frontier aired until a short time before the movies came out.. and then I didn't really come back here until Delta started. As a result.. I fell out of recognition of the current Valkyrie toy markets (took me a while to figure out the Yamato/Arcadia thing but that seems clear now). All that pre-amble is mostly to show why I'm ignorant, lol... but my question is what exactly is the Hi-Metal (original and R) series all about? Does it include metal? How does it compare to other companies products? I understand it is only VF-1s right now but I still am unsure what the story there is. (For reference, the only VFs I own are a Yamato 1/48 VF-1J Max and the Bandai 1/72 VF-25S model. I could not afford a lot back then, heh)
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Macross Δ (Delta) - Mission 7 - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
I think it is obvious. The Aerial Knights hold their pee in super dimension space via the use of fold resonance toilets.- 240 replies
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Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
I stand corrected there. I honestly was not aware of those things about the 29 and 30. This makes me realize I definitely need to play Macross 30. That reason for the 17 makes a lot more sense. Also explains why Basara never had issues with it (except for defolding too close to planets). They did clearly work out the kinks with the 17 though as it used fold boosters easier later. -
Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
We don't know for sure if the 31 has the built in fold booster the YF-29 and YF-30 had actually.. they've never been shown to fold on their own. Also no, the VF-1 certainly couldn't, in fact no VF before the YF-29 could without an outboard fold booster. The first time we saw a fold booster in use was with the YF-19 in M+ (though it was still treated like a new technology in Macross 7 when Diamond Force used them... and it was even more stressful on the pilots there whilst not on Isamu strangely). -
Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
Gotta love them sly maneuvers. I don't suppose there is any translation of that novelization. I'd love to play the game but my biggest issue is not being able to follow the story. I know it is a long shot that the novelization has a full translation, but it can't hurt to ask. (I know there is a good guide to the game from someone on this site as well, so I at least have that option.) -
Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
SMS didn't develope anything. The YF-30 was probably made by Shinsei based on design lineage. LAI involvement is possible too, not sure if that has been revealed. Chaos likely contracts with Shinsei or whoever made the VF-31 to get theirs. SMS cut a deal to get their 25s from Shinsei and LAI by offering the data to Frontier NUNS as an early adoption thing.The 31 seems more purpose built so I doubt it is meant to become a general use VF like 25 was implied to be for Frontier. -
Macross Δ (Delta) Mecha/Technology Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
It took me a while to figure out why the 19 wasn't the main fighter. I kept telling myself it was just Frontier that choose to use 171s for cost and the proper NUNS used it. I understand now that just isn't the case. VF-19 became a special ops unit like the 17 was. The 171 made a better general purpose VF to replace the aging VF-11.VF-25 was developed for Frontier with LAI help based on the YF-24 though. There is no reason to think NUNS is going to use the 25 everywhere unless the data from SMS really made them love it. For a general purpose 5th generation fighter a VF-24 that is not as specialized as the 25 seems more likely, if at all. More interestingly, it seems SMS operates more than just 25s since an updated VF-19 that can probably keep up with modern VFs was being flown by Isamu for SMS (Isamu finally found a job that let him fly with less red tape, so appropriate). -
Macross Δ (Delta) News Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
Well, presumably. I am admittedly just making conjecture. Only SK could confirm that. As for him surviving attacks from Protodeviln, yeah that did happen I'm sure. Not quite the same as surviving a Macross canon blast which is what I was specifically denying had happened. Basara's music actively weakened the Protodeviln so to me, he may also have weakened the effects of their attacks too. Yes that is a pretty big assumption but it fits the narrative so I'll go with it until told otherwise. -
Macross Δ (Delta) - Mission 6 - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
I think it was meant to just be something she overheard, either from someone in the Spacey or at Chaos. -
Macross Δ (Delta) News Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
Eh no not really. No one has quite been presented with his innate musical skill, let alone that he was an expert pilot that even Max complimented (though of course with the caveat that he was still better, cause duh). Besides, his status as anima spiritia implies he was unique. Not super by any means (he'd never think of himself that way) but still noteworthy. Still stand by that no one stopped a cannon blast with music. I'd need a specific reference to believe I forgot such a thing. This talk does make me consider a rewatch though... I recently watched the movie again. Dynamite 7 is also classic. -
Macross Δ (Delta) - Mission 7 - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
I fully disagree with this assessment. I mean it is not like Macross hasn't had levity before (even in the original series, granted it was downplayed a lot). Macross 7 was way more lighthearted but still had some pretty dark moments. To me Delta if anything is so far the perfect balance of all the best elements of the last 3 series. Got Frontier's political intrigue and high tech, there is elements of the original series' consequences of war in just the last episode (plus the fact that everything is world built based on SDFM), and it has the lighter toned fun music of M7, with a little more of the effects from Frontier's music (even if it loses the Kanno awesomeness). Delta may just be the most Macross a modern day Macross series could be. Also let's not forget... SDFM was originally planned to be a parody of mecha shows. It wasn't ultimately, but that is part of its roots.- 240 replies
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Macross Δ (Delta) News Thread - READ 1st POST
Master Dex replied to azrael's topic in Movies and TV Series
Well let's be fair, no one ever stopped a Macross cannon blast with a song, and they never used speakers in space. If you watch Macross 7 goes to impressive lengths to show how they recognize sound doesn't exist in space. The Sound Force valks only open proper speakers in atmosphere, in space they need to fire speaker pods. Later the sound boosters are used to amplify and project song energy, which Frontier and Delta have now more properly defined as being a fold wave resonance and the sound boosters were basically amplifiers of that. Basara clearly had a super high fold receptor level (how it measures against the likes of other artists is not clear, but I'd be willing to bet by his actions his is still the highest yet seen). I know your examples likely were not meant to be direct, but that is a misconception of the show I see enough that is worth calling out cause it persists the negative view of it. As for the overuse of Fire Bomber's track lists... well that is entirely true. There was enough songs in the discography to avoid that, but they only stuck to the hits for some reason. Mind you, I'll always love Totsugeki Love Heart. Things like this are why I like the idea that Mylene might be Lady M because that connection would be awesome and help validate M7 more. Also I needed to say more about Delta so I didn't get too far off topic, lol.