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Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)
Master Dex replied to no3Ljm's topic in Movies and TV Series
I really did want to, but as it is I barely got home after the con before midnight, heh. Seems the best description of the movie's plot is "Things Happen." I also am actually quite disappointed the dancing VF gimmick was dropped so fast... I enjoyed that. It was unique.- 810 replies
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I suspect they didn't have as much fold quartz plus maybe didn't get all the 29 data. As for the latter, pretty sure federal NUNS will put a stop to that quickly and restrict the fold quartz usage. They don't want any colony having something as tough as their fighter in numbers. You think the idea of a VF-29 is scary, there is evidence the federal VF-24 is more powerful... And that is likely without a fold wave system.
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The design of the VF-25 doesn't allow for that, reworking it to do so would be a radical redesign, if a fleet wanted a plane to have that, they'd buy Kairos instead. As Seto and Azrael implied the 31 is not a replacement for the 25, it is just what this region chose to build and eventually adopt instead due to their needs. Frontier fleet in 2067 still surely has VF-25s, likely with NUNS there having fully adopted it now since the life cycle implementation started earlier than the 31's did. Plus yes the production model version of the 25 is likely a bit improved over the SMS used performance testing models.
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Pilot will makes up for a lot, especially for the VF-19EF/A that is almost intentionally designed to be as tough to use as the original YF-19 that nearly killed pilots that aren't Isamu. It's improved I think but it's Gen 4.5 at best compared to top notch Gen 5. Isamu maybe can make it work by luck but he's outmatched in tech. This may be why he gets his own YF-29 variant in the game, dude needs to keep up lol. As for the VF-27, it's specialized for cyborg use so they could even better deal with Vajra. It supposedly used some stolen data from the YF-29 but none of what makes the 29 so BAMF. The 29 is literally a beast of a machine. It's got thicker armor, more weapons, and most notably the fold wave system which essentially allows it to run ECA in all modes with no performance drop when active. There is a reason Brera was having trouble in that final dogfight while Alto was basically avoiding hurting him. Alto could have killed him probably if he wanted to do so.
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Part of me wonders if there was an intentional effort to almost shadow develope him considering he is so straight up and boisterous about everything else.
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The YF-29B is the blue NUNS variant used by the antagonist in the Macross 30 game. The YF-30 is a match in many ways to the 29, after all it is the hero mech in Macross 30 that fights the 29B. What is important is that the VF-31 is derived from the YF-30 but the 31 is in no way in the same level as the 30 and 29.
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Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)
Master Dex replied to no3Ljm's topic in Movies and TV Series
It's a discussion forum, people share opinions here, both sides of the coin. If people aren't allowed to voice disagreement than they shouldn't agree either. We'd have nothing left to talk about then. Plus sarcasm is like life for some of us lol.- 810 replies
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Well yeah, though oddly I was thinking about Gamlin when I wrote that. Not for anything specific either, just popped into my head for some reason (Gamlin kick!). But yeah Basara is pretty easy to anticipate, but I do feel you get to know him on some level over time in a way that is entirely non exposition based.
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Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)
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Well, I wasn't saying that much, lol. I'd love to get in on that, sadly to save money re: accommodations I'm basically driving down to Torrence the morning of the con (I live like 3 hours away) so I'll likely not be available when you do this screening unfortunately (plus I have work the day before anyway).- 810 replies
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It's worth your time to continue, as Seto has said, the plot doesn't really kick in until after episode 20 or so... and then it really does start to get going. You are right though, early individual episodes basically are just character building. Once plot takes center stage, you'll like that the characters are fully fleshed out and you don't have to worry about who they are as much anymore (you'll even get to expecting what certain characters might do, because you /know/ them). It is not entirely the best way to do it (Frontier paced it way better and got a similar result) but it does end up working at least. As for why nothing seems to be done in regards to the ongoing crisis.. a lot of comes down to politics and bureaucracy, something often skipped in most shows of this type. Max can't just do anything he wants militarily because the civil government (aka his pissed off separated wife) gets angry. While it seems Milia tends to be unreasonable given the situation, she isn't ignorant, though they do tend to forget to tell you that (they do show later properly she still has that Zentradi warrior inside her, it's just been swapped out over time with being a mother to her daughters and a leader to her people). She has to make a lot of tough choices about how to safeguard the civil populace. Max doesn't deal with that at all, he has no oversight there. It seems by the time of Frontier (and the NUNS), some fleets opted for a more unilateral President who is in charge of both civil and military matters rather than separate like 7 did. That may solve a lot of issues shown in this series, but taken as it is, it kinda makes sense. As for the Flower Girl, she's a big fan of Basara and wants to give him flowers. That's all (not even joking, that's it).
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Well in terms of colony-grade fighters overall performance yes (Obviously anything the Federal NUNS fields is always gonna be tops, whether it be VF-24 or anything else they full spec). This is one thing another fighter beats the YF-29 in, but it does not mean the YF-29 is immediately less capable than the 262. Seto points out well that the 262 is way too overspecialized for aerial use. The YF-29 can work in all mediums to a crazily high powered degree even if it's ISC can't budget quite as much G's, lol. Good pilot will deal with it. Could it be you were thinking of how we discussed the Drakken's Fold Reheat system is like a poor man's Fold Wave system that the YF-29 and VF-31s have? Has no bearing on pilot resilience but that much is a true thing at least.
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Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)
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I mean I do really like Plus, especially in the movie format... but Kawamori said it himself about it: "It's a serious story with a silly plot." So yeah... for all the love it gets and deserves to a large degree... it's not really the apex of Macross storytelling we often hold it up to be.- 810 replies
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The show implies it is pretty much just lack of skill for anyone that isn't an aerial knight. It's shown a lot that NUNS pilots, historically cannon fodder, can beat them easily. This is why Windermere needed to use mind control.
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Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)
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For the record Seto, I don't agree with the idea of Delta inspiring people to think M2 is better than they thought. It shouldn't take a flawed show to convince people to accept something older. I framed the idea as a joke for that reason. I myself have no direct opinion on M2 as I have not taken the time to watch it fully. I've only seen bits and pieces. Delta would not influence my view of it at all.- 810 replies
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Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)
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There are a lot of M2 similarities there it almost seemed like SK was intentionally going for that actually. The joke almost being that Delta finally made people respect Macross II (Seto is happy at least), lol.- 810 replies
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Well this was before M7 (though only just slightly) which was his true return to Macross in his eyes. Before Plus was Macross II which didn't involve Kawamori at all. So he'd been out of the franchise since DYRL basically. It was just that one show and a movie at the time, not this massive franchise we see today.
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I don't think either really, but I'm not the expert on that (he comes in later, lol, we know who I mean). I do know however that Macross Plus was not originally a Macross title. Kawamori was writing a story to be something different (just happened to have transforming jet robots too I guess), but either couldn't secure funding or something else and basically agreed to make it a Macross thing to get it made, and everything else related to any sort of canon (not that SK really worries about such things) was filled in after the fact. This is why M+ ends up being so unique in Macross stories... it wasn't written to really be Macross at all.
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Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)
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Well second time you did, first time you said on par.. that's not the same thing, lol. I can't pass judgement since I can't see the movie yet but it sounds like it doesn't one up the show much and well... that's not the best news, lol. However it helped the franchise back in it's home and the future continues. That's all that matters to me right now. (But even though I can't rate the Delta movie, the Frontier movies are amazing in my eyes with how well they told a redone story for their medium. I do prefer the overall story of the series but the movies just presented so damn well.)- 810 replies
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Doing my bi-monthly check in here.. looks like 31A's are still in limbo for some.. good lord... but glad things are progressing. I kinda completely ignored the 31S release, heh.. but I only ever wanted the 31F and A anyway. I don't know yet if I want supers for 31A.. if they're even being planned.. but I suspect an armored pack might happen... but not sure if I want that either... I'll have to see it in action in the movie, but not sure when I'll get around to that.
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Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Master Dex replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
I mean, really back in Frontier the Armored Messiah might as well have been the embodiment of the quote: "You throw a nuke down a bug hole, you got a lotta dead bugs!" -
Super Dimension Convention September 15, 2018
Master Dex replied to sh9000's topic in Conventions and Local Gatherings
Oh myy.. you mean I might actually have the chance to meet one of my techie friends from here? I don't really know anyone from here of course, but at least I'll pseudo-know some people, lol.- 30 replies
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Macross Δ (Delta) Movie Gekijō no Walkūre (Passionate Walkure)
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I could look, but I suspect the price for this movie, as movies often are when they're Japanese imports, is rather high. So.... someone please tell me if it worth the money. The official subs are already a great bonus of course, but even so.- 810 replies
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I wrote that before coming home from work, here is more info about the single release: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-07-21/macross-frontier-sheryl-ranka-release-1st-new-single-in-7-years/.134512 As said it comes out Sept 26 and has the new songs "Good Job!" and "Ranka to Brand New Peach" (it's what the site says..) as well as "Gooorgeous."
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Soon, it is gonna be on a new release with a new Ranka song and a duet of them as well.
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Super Dimension Convention September 15, 2018
Master Dex replied to sh9000's topic in Conventions and Local Gatherings
Welp, bought my ticket, first Macross con for me. Looking forward to it!- 30 replies
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