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All panel lined!
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It arrived and it's awesome. A smidge fiddly, and the default hand cant hold the gunpod very well, but overall shes a great valk. I love he color, I love the general look. Yeah. Cool piece of kit.
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I appreciate all the Math This DOES all assume its a smoke plume from the actual impact, and I still think its the trail of the Macross as it flew overhead. This could also have been the shake that Shin felt and that woke him up; its the shockwave, not the impact of the ship. So he feels the shockwave, goes outside and see's the glow on the western horizon. That does NOT explain away what you mentioned about the distance of seeing the glow. I hadn't even THOUGHT of the curvature problem. In Macross we see the boom, and it's quite large, but it wouldn't have been a sustained and long lasting light. If they are watching a sustained glowing light from the impact fires from the ship, they MUST be close enough to view that based on the EC. As you say, id the hill they are on is 1000m (Which honestly seems a bit high. The highest natural point in Sydney from the ocean is about 281 metres, and that matches Mt Davidson in San Francisco (The highest point in the city according to google). Views from the top of that look similar to the one's seen in the M0 image. Using the calculator above, that means to see something at Horizon level you would need to be around 60km (37ish miles) to see it. Now I think the fire would be fairly large, so let's generously double it and say 120km away. That's less than half the distance of Tasmania from the southern tip of Australia, a trip of just under 10 hours by boat. Sketchleys idea about a fictional location is starting to have more weight in my mind...
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God I love this sort of nerdery I don't think ASS1 turned. The only animation we have of it falling is the original series, and it arcs right down and in, not turning. I can buy slowing down, but even that may have been accomplished with modification of the angle of descent as opposed to reverse thrusters of some kind (Which we see no evidence of.) I'm also I'm not sure I buy it aiming for South Ataria as a way to aim the main gun for the Booby Trap. i mean MAYBE, and I have no evidence to support that it didn't, but it doesn't... feel right to me? Based on the condition of the ship herself? I dunno, I'm willing to be convinced... I lean towards it being the trail as it came in. The way the electricity arcs COULD be something similar to lightning in a volcanic eruption, but the way the scene looks and feels I think that everyone ran outside as the blast is happening from impact. A Smoke plume that large would take longer to appear, and I think this is a "This just happened" moment, as the shot before is Shin waking up from the shake from either the impact or the shockwave as it flew over head. I think I'm largely with Seto; It came in East to west, slowed itself and hit, passing over somewhere in or near California. Given the size of the Macross and the trail it left I'd imagine it would have been visible from a vast majority of the western coastline. Bolt says it even looks a little like San Francisco or somewhere near it, so I think thats probably on track. Whether it did an orbit first or not I'm less sure.
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Kind of. The first shot is him in bed. At the end of the pan down he looks to be living on a hill, pretty high. The city is laid out before him to a waters edge. And then the last shot of his house and family. Thats pretty much all we get.
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Its 2025.... where are you in the macross universe
Scream Man replied to SpacePirateNeko's topic in Movies and TV Series
Man i dont even like leaving my house. IF I somehow made it to the Australian Grand Cannon wreck and rode our the bombardment, I'd have probably just gone home again. That said my wife is a knowledge manager and pretty smart, I could see her being recruited to right manuals or something. -
Both are fun, just very different. Plus is basically the next in line, 2 is a fun kind of side story. 2 looks the same but feels different; plus feels the same but looks different. neither choice is bad.
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I had also assumed it did at least one circuit, because it hits the island and just stops, even though it destroys a lot of it. I would think if it came down steep and just slammed into it the island would be obliterated, and Earth wouldn't have been much use for awhile afterwards. As for Shin; He also says he woke up because the Earth shook in a way it wasn't supposed too, which either mean it didn't feel like an Earthquake (Which would potentially support your San Francisco theory) or he lives somewhere that doesn't have Quakes and he was unfamiliar with the Earth shaking at all. But who knows, really? Unrelated comment to that; So as I was reading the timeline, and when u think about it the development cycle after the Macross crashes is kind of insane. I know they gathered OT from the wreck, but it must have either also had instructions on how to USE some of it, or its RIDICULOUSLY easy to understand. I mean its less than 10 years before they have the Clean Nuclear reactors, the Hyber-carbon alloys, the gyros to allow for bipedal mechs, the mechanics for the transformations, the basic understanding (VERY basic it turns out) of the fold system, artificial gravity tech, better/faster engines (Since they have at least decent enough speeds for multiple inter-solar system craft, and the Macross herself makes it back to Earth from Pluto in 2 years) etc etc. Like Overtechnology is the Ikea furniture of technology it seems.
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When the Macross crashed originally, do we know its trajectory as it came in? We know Macross crashed in July 1999 into South Ataria island is, AFAIK, a fictional island off the southern coast of Japan. I assume somewhere slightly westward since, as Shin describes, at the start of Macross Zero, he see's "A Second sun in the west" at the end of the contrail/smoke cloud. So it must have passed over him, or close to it, which means either Shin DIDN'T live in Japan, or the island is somewhere to the near South West of the archipelago. In SDFM's first episode we learn a few things. One is that, while still relatively high in the sky, The Macross created enough of a shockwave to destroys at least one city. Also it very clearly hit South Ataria Island Macross Compendium says: 1815 Japan Standard Time: Admidst a dispute between a faction advocating to destroy it by nuclear attack and factions advocating for no attack, the object named "EVA" (evangel, which means the Gospel of the Coming) enters the atmosphere above Burma. Due to the high temperatures and terrific shock waves, it reduces the summit of Mount Everest by nearly 1000 meters, destroys Moscow and Stockholm, and inflicts damage while passing over all parts of Europe. Furthermore, it travels over Iceland and Greenland, causes volcanoes to erupt in Canada, and falls onto the South Ataria Island at the southermost tip of the Ogasawara Islands above the Tropic of Cancer. But I have no idea where it got that from.
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Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Scream Man replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
Right, its more or less like that. I think in Canon they say that the gas is the same basic gas types used in Blasters, its just the its charged by a larger powered laser. So it works kind of the same way, but using a laser instead of being energized by the power source. I also don't think it uses a crystal to focus its beam IIRC, it just compresses in the barrel like blaster but then fires a more broad strong beam. -
Yeah it seems like it! Im now at the "Checking the tracking twice a day" stage of waiting for toys.
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Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
Scream Man replied to Valkyrie Driver's topic in Movies and TV Series
OO! I know this one too! I know stupid $h1t about Star Wars the way Seto knows things about Macross tech! 😛 Star Wars blasters fire a particle "bolt." The size doesn't really matter its more or less the same from handguns to spaceships: Theres a gas container that, when the gun is fired, sends a small amount of gas into the main chamber, which is then excited/energized by a power source (The source depends on the size of the gun. so on a hand blaster its a battery, on a ship it comes from the ships energy stores.), then travels into a containment area and focused using magnetic fields, then passes through a crystal (The kind varies) which then forces the excited particles forward in a beam. The color depends on the kind of gas used (In Empire Strikes Back, Landos Tibanna gas mine is so lucrative because Tibanna gas is used in a lot of handheld blasters). I know this isn't Macross, I was just excited to contribute. -
Super Macross Mecha Fun Time Discussion Thread!
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Its probably not this at all but Argocentus is a kind of Spider in Australia. Im just excited i know something off the top of my head that theres a very tiny chance helps among you big brains 😛 -
Cool. much obliged i have the DX Fire Valk on the way so I've been in that sort of mood.
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Ive always felt that too actually.