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I've been reading various blogs through the net, and it seems that the C&D that HG sent the UEG guys is kinda backfiring. People I never expected to confess their disgust for HG's treatment of Robotech and the fans, are now being echoed everywhere. As more negative comments flow in through various sites and realms, I wonder how direct this will be on the idea of a live action movie? If you put yourself in the shoes of someone making decisions to finance or not finance a Robotech film, would the hordes of negative comments about the franchise that pop up question your decision, or would those be things you'd overlook and outweigh them with what Robotech once was? Maybe this is what they were planning for their 25 year anniversary.

Speaking of guitar lessons, I've always wanted to take some. I never had guitar lessons. I'm self taught. I've been at a point where I can clean up my own style, but getting technically better probably could use either instruction, or something like that. Finding a good instructor helps too, as there are way too many around. Gotta weed them out. What type of electric do you have? I have a Gibson Les Paul Studio, but will be getting a PRS later this year. Just don't have the $3200 to spend right now, unfortunately.

They have their own legal team. What I don't get is why they're busy sending letters to fans, when they should be busy trying to keep Frank Agrama from his own legal troubles?

I don't think there is any real way to "do it right". Probably the best thing to have done would've been to never talk to HG about it. I guess there's the live and learn factor, in which no one should really get involved in doing stuff for a company that is looking to shaft you. Just by reading througout various blogs, websites, and whatnot, this action has seemed to really backfire on HG, and for a moving picture fanfic with no monetary gain. Dust that dirt of your shoulders!!! Time to be Voltron fans

Ahhh, I remember this. It was good times. Except for about 21/2 jetfire/bootlegs still left, I haven't worked on any of these in ages. It's still nice to look at them though, and remember when these were the hot items. I didn't really expect anything new in this thread, but thanks for the nostalgia fix.

"All your fanfics are belong to us!" Robotech fans should do what HG wants, and stop talking about Robotech, stop doing any fan sites, fan works, pics, customs, etc. They're working hard at giving you the worst toys possible, cause they don't want you buying those, too. Why are you all acting like Macross Purists and still talking about Robotech and wanting to do fanfics and stuff with it?

Awesome!!! Thanks for Remember 16. I have a Martin Acoustic that's been itching to get played, and I haven't really broken it in yet. Gotta get a capo tomorrow and I'll give it a shot. I'll try to put more up soon when I get some time and get my guitar out.

Awesome. I just took it out of the box again to take pics, but since you got the same one, no need. My wife saw the figure, and she kinda rolled her eyes, but understands the character and what it is. She actually likes Sheryl in Mac F. In regards to the movie, when it's out on Blu-Ray or DVD, I'm gonna wait for a version with subs to come out for sure. I'm guessing if it's still in theaters, there's no way it'll be out anytime soon, probably at least a few months at minimum.

Even still, do they really think HG would spend that much money over court just for something that isn't gonna make any money to begin with? They were planning to release it as a fan project, for free, and with no strings attached. It'd be like sueing someone for Drawing pictures of Rick Hunter.

I would take that C&D order and wipe my @ss with it and mail it back to them. It's a fan work, and it's not being done for profit. It seems more like a scare tactic than anything. I'd like to see what argument they have and see if it'd hold up in a court. They should be sending Memo a C&D order as well, since he's working on a fan film LAM of Robotech. they should also sue the pants off of that guy who did a short LAM of the Max and Milia date knife fight. I know they do their fan works for free, but they're spreading the franchise out, and god forbid that HG help keep the franchise going. Seriously though, they should continue, and see what exactly they'd do. They have no ground, as provided by current evidence. Since the UEG guys are in another country, they should continue, and make HG spend craploads of money to fly out to that country, go to court, and win or lose, all it would do is inhibit fan work. Do you really think HG would pay that much money to only do that?

Was any of this ever told on rt.com??? Reason I ask is that if so, I wonder what the reaction was/would've been? Would they take that type of info seriously, be concerned, or simply say that you're only causing trouble? I will say that this info isn't too surprising. So much for those who "know how Hollywood work" and their predictions.

I do agree, that instead of waiting for the absolute worst time to release these, they should've done them when Shadow Chronicles first came out.

Thanks for providing this. Downloaded perfectly. I've never seen this before, so thanks.

Sounds like you've been reading Maverick's posts again or getting messages from him. What always got me was the fact that even with the small push to revive the franchise, the line of merchandise they had was so small, and obscure. Then the product they do come out with is riddled with QC issues (not all of it, but the bigger items). You'd think part of creating a successful franchise would be to not just make a dollar or two on the show, series, or whatnot, but to have continual revenue in merchandise. They overthought where to spend money on this franchise, and in turn, forgot to put it where they'd get it back. Now, with news of no Shadow Beta, Maia's MPC going to crap, and only a vinyl Battlepod, do people really think this is the capable company to do anything? Did anyone ever think that, cause you need to check your head if so. They've passed their shelf life, and aside from maybe decent sales of RTSC (most of it bought for nostalgia it seems), there's nothing to even keep that in people's minds, if that was what they wanted to do.

I'll post up pics tomorrow with the heart pasties I didn't know there were two versions. I ordered mine from HLJ, and it took over a month to come, so I don't know. Just another figure to go with the future Sheryl Guard, and all the statues I have of her.

I doubt those people were waiting on memo to say that it's fixed to buy it. I waited on the first one,,,wait, I didn't plan on ever buying the first Maia with the ugly @ss colors. I thought maybe they'd work out the problems and even some of the previous problems, but I think the issue is, is that Toynami is realizing that Robotech has exhausted it's ability to stir up enough business to get the franchise's merchandise off of life support. So, the Vinyl Battlepod is all that's left after another disaserous Maia MPC? I take it with there being no Shadow Beta, and the fallout from this MPC, there will be no Marcus Rush alpha. You know, for supposedly doing so much and always being busy, HG seems more like they're closing up shop than trying to keep things going. It's kinda sad for true Robotech fans. all they have are these crappy Macross toys left from companies like Yamato. I think they stole that name from Space Battleship Yamato.

Mospeada's curse of finished products seems to creep up again. So, the Beta sales sucked, not too surprising. I doubt a lot of people wanted to buy the red beta. I bought one, but wasn't all that thrilled about it. I was more wanting the blue and green. What can you do?

For "Angel Voice", I was playing it as such: C x32013 G 320013 Am x02213 F xx3213 pre-chorus G Am F Em G then back to the original For "Light the Light" ----------------15--(15)---------------------------------------------------------- -----15------------------------15----------------------------------------------- -----------17------------------------17----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------17---(17)----------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm pretty sure the chorus is in power chords of F G Em F, F G Am, F G Em F, D G C There's more too it, but I'm without my guitar as of now, so I don't remember the bridge For DYRL, you can transcribe the notes up or down, I usually play it in A, as we had a girl who could sing it in D, so I'll go with that. (going off memory) You can play this strumming the chords, picking, and I usually play it with full bar chards to get a wider range of notes Intro: E A E A B E Verse: D E C#m F#m D E A 2x Pre-chorus: Fm F#m Fm F#m D# D C# B Chorus: A D Bm E (A few times) D A Bridge: F#m D F#m D That's it for now. Stay tuned for Macross opening theme, and Totsugeki Love Heart (sp?) I've got other anime too, if anyone is interested.

Shadow Chronicles was delayed due to them trying to "catch the big fish" with a large distributor. When the contracts came in, there was some sort of clause in there that would basically put RTSC on a shelf. That's what happened more or less from Kevin's explanation a couple years ago, and verified with a couple people. There were also other tactical reasons, but I really doubt they wanted to even try to compete with Frontier. They know it would've come up short from the get go. I know they wanted to do it by the 20th anniversary, but that didn't happen. It didn't happen in 2006 for several reasons, of course, none ever being HG's fault (although some of it indirectly wasn't). As for the "rip-offs" that people are gonna claim, seems like some people want to make those correlations. If Macross ever copied or was inspired from Robotech, I'm sure many people would feel that robotech has some validation, not that it needs it. Gubaba hit it on the head. BTW, I see Zen72 on, I'm listening to ep.17 right now. Thanks for putting that and a random cast up. Good stuff.

There are a lot of Mospeada products out there, agreed, but the ones that really matter seem to get the short end of the stick, i.e. the Beagle Fuke and Yellow. It did take forever for the Beta/Tread, but they at least made it to the light of day. BTW, any info on the Shadow Beta?

In regards to the original question, I'd buy 2 or 3, just to have them. If there's anything I'd buy multiples of, it's the VF-4, VF-2SS, and the VA-3. Also gotta add the 1/60 Regults

True, and I hope you didn't think I was going off on you. I think it's more of a circus when people that openly blast it because it's Macross attempt to analyze it. Then, on top of that, they try to compare it to Robotech's version of the characters. And it's not that they aren't entitled to their view, it just doesn't make much sense. There you go...why would you be pointed to someone that only Memo really talks to? Whatever info Juanrt would've received, would've been from either someone who is on the inside of HG, or Memo. This makes the whole thing of the leaked treatment very interesting. Unfortuanately, Shadow Rising was something Tom didn't really talk much about. After seeing Shadow Chronicles, I wasn't too interested in what was gonna come after it. In either case, the debate of what actually happened and who let it out will probably never be known. All I will say, is that it was interesting that non-HG employees were telling me and others about Shadow Rising, and specific details related to the treatment that popped up much later, before that drama even unfolded. It raises many questions, some I personally don't even care to try to answer. It was putting one and one together from those events that when Darkwater pointed me to the blog, I knew it was real. Although, I think the reaction of Robotech fans was a clear indication to Tommy that what he had done wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. Someone sent me the file from the blog, and I may still have it. If you are still a Robotech fan after Shadow Chronicles, I doubt you'd be one after that.

I wanted to correct an error that I overlooked here... Tom Bateman wasn't fired for leaking anything. That stupid treatment got leaked sometime after Tom was gone, and by someone who probably visited Tommy and Steve at HG from time to time. I did find it strange that to the day that drama started, Someone not even in this country supposedly knew who did it, and was quick to place blame on either Tom, or one of his friends. This is a guy who I believe lives in where? South America. Now, how would someone know enough to create such a story like that, unless it came from someone who talks to Tommy, Steve, and Kevin all the time, and also has ties to South American RT fans? Anyways, it's old news, but I thought I'd correct you on that notion. From what I know of Tom, he's never been the vindictive type, and is still a huge Robotech fan. He's always been a professional, so that idea that you say you came up with is pretty absurd. After reading that thread, what I don't understand is why people have to tie in characters to other characters that aren't even related? The problem with trying to fit MacF characters into characters like Kaifun, Leonard, etc, etc., is that you lose the character's uniqueness, because the character is put into some box. I'd jump in on the conversation, but I really don't have much interest in being part of rt.com's stepchild site.

ff95jg, where did you get this decal? I've been looking for these, but can't find them anywhere. such an awesome decal that I want to get for a custom. If anyone can help, it'd greatly be appreciated

So far, I have about $2000 saved up for this thing. I'm looking to get one sometime in August/September. That'll be around the same time I get a second raise this year, so the finances should be there, barring no crazy new toys come out that I have to get.