Kyp Durron

Delta movie is an easy pass for me, I've had enough Delta to last me several lifetimes.

Actually, it seemed as she was going to age even faster, since she was already showing signs of it at age what...15? I think mid 20's for her wasn't even possible. I agree with you 100% The ending to Frontier's triangle really pissed me off. The only time we've seen it done decently compared to the last several Macross series was in the original. It's been over 30 years, it's high time they got it right.

That would be a start.

Seizures? I think looking at that crap gave me cancer. Me and my damned morbid curiosity.....

A "Love triangle" is supposed to keep you guessing as long as possible, preferably till either the very end or close to it. A one sided triangle isn't a triangle, it's a constant obvious couple paring + third wheel tag-a-long, which isn't fun or suspenseful at all, just incredibly PAINFUL to watch from start to finish. In the name of the "Hoary Froating Head", PLEASE MAKE A frakkING REAL TRIANGLE THIS TIME OR DON'T BOTHER AT ALL, KTHNX.

*Looks at image* Wow.

I'm the one that pointed it out, and I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't gone back and compared it directly to the 2199 1/1000 model. It's not that much wider at all, really. They widened the bow and engine nozzle equally to maintain the ratio. On screen from what I've seen, it looks well balanced so I really don't get where others are getting this " it looks pregnant" thing from.

That definitely caught my attention. Less powerful, but a much higher sustained fire rate. In other words, quantity over quality. Yamato's main guns may not have a high fire rate, but usually, they only need to hit once. Not only that, they can switch ammo type from energy to artillery shells too. Pretty confident the other ships in the EDF can't do that.

It seems to me that Yamato's tool box has more tools in it than Andromeda, and yes, I did note that Yamato's guns are bigger and of a different energy type as as well. What's really interesting is the factory that has been built inside Yamato, I'm betting it's a spare parts replicating factory, possibly using some kind of Star Trek like replicating technology. The whole Wave Motion gun agreement to me is a bunch of idealistic, naive bullshit. If it were me, I would have made that promise with my fingers crossed behind my back. I don't blame the earth government one damned bit. It's a nasty world out there, there's bound to be belligerent people out there with very powerful, similar weapons out there. And without the WMG technology, earth would be left pissing in the wind facing similar weapons with nothing to counter it. In other words Sanada is the only one amongst the crew with a rational, logical take on reality. Good for him I say, and damned lucky for rest of the crew and by extension, earth as well, whether anyone else realizes it or not. ***EDIT*** It seems that Yamato's toolbox isn't bigger than Andromeda's after all: Two-wheeled wave wave implosion radiator (commonly known as a diffuse wave gun) 40.6 centimeters tripletary convergence Compression type shockwave turret × 4 unitsRapid fire torpedo launch tube x 4 gatesGravity piece spread launcher × 4 units Small torpedo launch tube × 8 gate Four consecutive anti-ship grenade projectors x 2Subspace torpedo launcher x 4 units Short torpedo launch tube Multiply mounted missile launcher x 16 unitsProtection Shockfield Gun × 3 units Six side-by-side ray guns for proximity battle x 2 units Aircraft pulsed laser turret × 4 Diffusion type anti-aircraft pulse laser turret x 1 Mounting machine / equipped boat 1 style space battle attack <Cosmo Tiger II> or 99 Expression space battle attack machine <Cosmo Falcon> × 36 aircraft100 type spatial reconnaissance aircraft x 2 Space general purpose transport machine SC 97 <Cosmo Segal> × 2 machine Two internal boats

A battleship mounted with a Wave-Motion Engine, built as the flagship of Earth Federation aerospace fleet. Its primary characteristic is the concentrated twin Wave-Motion Gun at the bow which fires Wave-Motion energy in a dispersion form that can strike a large number of targets simultaneously. Operation of the ship is reduced by promoting automation, so the crew is significantly smaller than Yamato’s. Other than the first battleship Andromeda, two sister ships were constructed: AAA-2 Aldebaran and AAA-4 Achilles. Length :444m Main machine: Dimensional Wave-Motion engine x 1 Auxiliary machine: Kelvin impulse engine x 4 Prime weapon: Dimensional Wave-Motion radiation discharger (Dispersion Wave-Motion Gun) 40.6 cm triple-barrel convergent compression type shock cannon x 4 Quick firing torpedo launch tube x 4 Graviton launcher x 4 Four barrel anti-battleship grenade launcher x 2. Sub-space torpedo launcher x 4 Conning tower protection shock field cannon x 3 Six-barrel multi-launch lateral beam cannons for close combat x 2 Well allrighty then, so apparently that part isn't changed from the original series then. Still doesn't matter though as I stated in my earlier post :

This is going to be a bit of a read, but these are my honest thoughts on the changes now that I've slept on it and have given them serious thought. They were absolutely correct in what they did, and infact, I will explain exactly WHY these changes had to be made. While I'm explaining these things, please keep in mind the new Andromeda, it's size, and what that double barreled wave motion gun MONSTER actually DID to the smaller planet/moon and still did to the fleet : TOTAL DESTRUCTION of The Comet Empire's armada, despite A MOON being in the way! A. FREAKING. MOON. Video/ GIF of it in action to refresh your memory : Engines: If you were to ask me which engine nozzle set up looks to give more thrust, I'm going to go with the new set up, every time. You can't look at it and tell me honestly that that engine wouldn't out perform the old, plain and simple, this leads me the the changes in the hull. : I can almost guarantee I know why the hull is thicker, most likely due to an increased sized engine room/ wave motion engine and flywheel along with an increased fighter capacity. This is obviously based on the increased engine nozzle diameter and the increased hull girth, which, if you really look at it, sure it's noticeable, but it's not to the point of being ridiculous, in my opinion. Obviously they were going to improve on the original Wave Motion Engine design, and that those improvements were going to be implemented into Yamato's major refit. Remember how the Andromeda is much larger than the Yamato? Their fighter capacity is surely more than Yamato's. Yamato would need to realistically be able to at least keep up with the Andromeda or come close to matching it. This now leads me to the Yamato's trump card, the Wave Motion Gun. : As to the wave motion gun bow barrel? I've always thought it should have had a larger opening. They've addressed that issue. Remember how this went down before, the Yamato succeeds where the Andromeda fails. But look at all the improvements (However internal they mostly are) to the Andromeda, how can you realistically say the Yamato as she was would succeed where this monster of a flag ship will inevitably fail? You can't watch that video/gif above of that holy freaking hellfire and brimstone the Andromeda unleashed on those poor unsuspecting frakkers and think that pencil Wave Motion Gun barrel of the 2199 Yamato could bring to the table what Andromeda already does. (And far better I might add) No way in Hell. And to be honest, even with the larger opening and supposed higher output, I still don't think it's going to be on par, but we'll see I'm sure. There's also more guns added to Yamato's already impressive number of AA guns as well which is to me always welcome. Now, forget the 2199 design for a minute and just look at the 2202 1/1000 model pictures. Is it really unbalanced? No, it's not. They didn't just increase the hull girth, they increased the WMG barrel/bow width and engine nozzle width as well to compensate and maintain the overall balance of the design. The ratios between the bow, hull and engine are still the same, just larger, but still just as balanced. Look at this picture by itself, on it's own and ask yourself, is it really unbalanced? : No, no it's not. The ratios between bow, hull and engines are unchanged. They knew better than to screw with that. Keep in mind, this reboot is more realistically inclined than the original. In order to succeed where the Andromeda fails, Yamato had to have some serious improvements to it's guns, fighter capacity, output power of the Wave Motion Gun, and Wave Motion Engine. Realistically speaking, there's NO WAY to do this without external changes taking place. If you still think the changes are unbalanced, this should remove all doubt : The ratios are indeed the same. ***EDIT*** Doing some more reading, on the our starblazers website, I came across this picture from the official Yamato 2202 website, along with the English translation : Yep, looks pretty balanced to me. From the translation : Yamato brought the Cosmo Reverse System home from Iscandar, which restored the global environment as it was before the Garmillas invasion of the solar system. After finishing its important task, Yamato was enshrined in a submarine dock as a memorial ship, but under the Earth Federal Government’s new “Wave-Motion Gun fleet initiative” policy, it was decided to return Yamato to the battle lines. Extensive remodeling by Sanada was pushed forward by this stressful decision, including refurbishment of the Wave-Motion Gun. The addition of a factory within the ship (Well golly gee, Wally, that certainly explains the extra girth along with everything else, LOL -Kyp), strengthening of the armor, and the addition of anti-aircraft guns give it a more robust form and it awaits a new voyage. Name: Yamato-type ship number 1, Yamato (first remodeled type) Length :333m Main machine: Dimensional Wave-Motion Engine x 1 Prime weapon: Dimensional Wave-Motion radiation discharger (Wave-Motion Gun) 48cm triple-barrel positron shock cannon x 3 20cm triple-barrel positron shock cannon x 2 Torpedo launching tube x 12 8-port missile launch tower x 1 Type 94 depth charge launcher x 2 Anti-aircraft pulse laser turrets, several Oh, and one more thing. About the Andromeda failing where the Yamato succeeds... I am fully aware that one of the main reasons it did in the original series is because of the automation and lack of crew that the original had. However, I don't think this Andromeda will have that particular short coming this time around, I could be wrong, but I honestly don't think I am. I believe it's failure will be due to either command decisions or something that couldn't be avoided. (Plot demanding Andromeda's destruction for example) In the former case, the difference will most likely be due to differences in commanders tactics. Given that, it's going to be important that Yamato can hold it's own as well as the Andromeda spec wise. Even if it's the latter, "Plot armor" can only be so tough before it becomes outright ass pulling bullshit. So even in that case, it will still be important that Yamato has sufficient upgrades to where she can at least keep up. And if after all that you're still unconvinced, to all of you detractors, keep lying to yourselves, you know once you see this bad motherfrakker in action, you'll all come around, every single one of you. You know I'm right, you just won't admit it, yet.

Another comparison, as it appears in the anime, notice the wider deck area at the bow as a result of the larger Wave Motion gun opening :

See above edit and compare the two. In fact, here's another comparison, Yamato 2199: Yamato 2202 : There can be no doubt about the physical differences and that they're significant. And I was right, she is DEFINITELY thicker in the middle than before.

Yep, I concur. This time it appears this Yamato 2202 isn't just a refit in name only. There's actual physical differences between the two, and you know damn well what that means, a new SoC mold is coming out for the 2202 series! Start saving up! Oh and BTW, this SoC version is going to be a serious improvement, and the new Andromeda SoC will make the old one look like crap, calling this now. ***EDIT*** Wait a minute, she's thicker in the hull than she was before and check out the new line contour on the side of the ship in the first pic, that's a MAJOR change. Now compare that to the 2199 1/100 model:

Delta needs to be swept under the rug and forgotten. Frontier for me was the second best Macross with the original still being #1 and the standard by which I judge all the others by. Seto Kaiba said it best on Frontier: To put it simply, we need another one more like Frontier, and a LOT less like Delta, IMHO.

The Orville is more Trek than this ever will be.

^This.

Specifically, it needs MANY MORE AA turrets. Fighters will have a field day with those ships, always was bothered by those designs. As far as I'm concerned, the Yamato is the most COMPLETE ship in the fleet, has virtually every contingency covered.

No, just....NO.

As far as I'm concerned, 2199 was the greatest science fiction remake ever.

I'm sorry to say, but that is the truth. I have most of the books on my hard drive, and no, there will be no new books. As long as the contracts are not renewed, we will not ever see any new books.