briscojr84

A friend of mine told me that the Baneblade is going to be produced for regular retail, has anyone heard anything about this.

You didn't come off as rude, don't worry, we did kinda hijack the thread for a minute...

You know I can appreciate the level of detail and engineering in the plastic kits /when compared to other plastic kits/ but compared to a good metal model, it's just nowhere near the same, and I don't see how anyone can argue that. Plastic minis suffer from soft detail. I've got a box of brand-new Terminators in storage somewhere, and I checked them out before I submitted them to storage. Compare the headsculpts of any marine plastic to any metal marine or any other metal headsculpt... it's just not even close.Plastic has its uses, and customizing the models can be fun and is infinitely easier with plastic, but the overall level of detail between plastic and metal, especially for someone who is far more in the hobby to paint than play anything more than pickup games and friendly LGS tournies, is just not even comparable...

And the fluff has always been very strong for 40K... I don't play anymore, but I do still read the books for fun, gritty sci-fi thrills.

The detail on the metal ones are higher, and can be very pretty, although at times they can also have excess junk from the mold left on them, I bought a set of Grey knights at one point and although they were beautiful models it took about two hours to cut off and buff off all the burrs, I finally sold them before painting them because I knew I'd never be able to actual do that intricate of a paint job on them much to my disappointment, that and trundling around metal models kills your back especially if you have huge amounts of them, although a mostly metal vindicator does make a handy weapon

The background and story of 40K is very good, and very rich -- the benefits of having 30 years to develop. That's a big deal, really. Rules come and go, but the richness of the culture is a constant. Even if you have been in the hobby for a dozen years, the attention to detail can still catch you out.

As for superiority of models, I think metal are overrated for a hobbyist game and horrible as a pre-painted, collectible game (and I say this having transited from Citadel metals to Citadel plastic and having gone through FASA, Rackham, Privateer Press and Reaper metals and plastics.. Oh. And Wizards too, if you count the rubber as plastic...).

No matter what you might want to say about GW, but bar none, and I mean bar none, no company in the world makes models with the level of balance between sculpt, details, durability, customizability, engineering and weight that GW had managed to achieve. None.

I'd have to agree, I've played BT, old and new D&D, Star Wars, and several other mini-systems, I've liked the GW stuff the most.

Fine, fine, we can knock it off... in respect to the thread tho, I am going to leave you with one question I actually do want an answer to... what is it about the game that you really, thoroughly enjoy? I liked the models for a little while until I found many superior models in all-metal lines like WM, and I've always found the actual play-time clunky and boring, so I really, really do want to know what about playing you really enjoy.

I enjoy the modelling, and I do like the rules overall, the only real problem I've had is the way the codexes are set up and the way the main rule-book has a horrible index, and the hard to find lesser known rules in said main rule book., I may just be a glutton for punishment and maybe it could be I like long involved battles, heh, I do wish that it was longer than six rounds some times.

And I wasn't trying to be rude earlier if it came off as that I apologize.

No offense guys but this thread was supposed to be about discussing 40k and different strategies, paint schemes, etc. not bash it.

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mecha/keida/kanzen-...lt%26glaug.html

Check out the above link. Can someone tell me what this is?

I just came across this while searching for a Glaug picture for another post I was going to make. From that same link you can go here:

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/mecha/keida/kanzen-page/valkyrie.html

And see a Valkyrie I've never seen before. Note the forearms form the gun pod, the shoulder lasers, the odd head, etc.

Thanks,

Carl

Those are just fan creations, there was another thread floating around somewhere two or three months ago listing these along with tons of others.

That is a pretty nice scheme, my friend went with a gore red and silver scheme with some black and gold detailing.

I don't know what point size of games you are playing but we usually manage to squeeze two-three 2000 point games in about 4-6 hours.

I didn't really like the way the war machine figures looked, I like the 40K stuff especially the tanks, although I think they need to ditch the IGuards rough riders and replace them with dirtbikes or scout cars.

As for color schemes my Iron warriors are the standard boltgun, and gold, my piddling amount of space marines [although I did splurge on a whirlwind and land raider crusader, and there for awhile I bought like ten rhinos for five bucks a pop off of people] are a dwarf bronze with the command level having a really dark green, sgts with a really dark purple and everyone else having gore red detail. My IGuard is black with grey and gold detailing, my tau are black with dark angels green, camo green, and dwarf bronze, my eldar are going to be bleached bone with scorched brown, and shadow grey detailing.

Actually if you go to the main page of my website there is a link for our gaming group, just about everybody has expanded from that though, I need to add new pictures.

That is a pretty nice scheme, my friend went with a gore red and silver scheme with some black and gold detailing.

I don't know what point size of games you are playing but we usually manage to squeeze two-three 2000 point games in about 4-6 hours.

I didn't really like the way the war machine figures looked, I like the 40K stuff especially the tanks, although I think they need to ditch the IGuards rough riders and replace them with dirtbikes or scout cars.

As for color schemes my Iron warriors are the standard boltgun, and gold, my piddling amount of space marines [although I did splurge on a whirlwind and land raider crusader, and there for awhile I bought like ten rhinos for five bucks a pop off of people] are a dwarf bronze with the command level having a really dark green, sgts with a really dark purple and everyone else having gore red detail. My IGuard is black with grey and gold detailing, my tau are black with dark angels green, camo green, and dwarf bronze, my eldar are going to be bleached bone with scorched brown, and shadow grey detailing.

I used to play long ago, stopped sometime in the 90's.

My army were Dark Angel Space Marines which I formed up in the original "Rogue Trader" days. That means the real Dark Angels, where the color was black, not dark green. I had 3 platoons worth of them (50 S.Marines / Platoon). It was easy to get lots of troops those days, since there were sets of 50 plastic Marines for $24-30U.S. back in the Rogue Trader days (before GW got too greedy). I had a Lt.Cmdr, a Dreadnought, 1 Rhino, and 1 Land Raider with my Marines, plus 1 Terminator squad.

Like I said, black was the theme since these were the original chapter colors. I stopped for a year or two then started again with the same army in the 2nd and 3rd edition rules, but not playing as much as in the Rogue Trader days.

It was always nice to see the newer players asking why my DA's were black instead of dark green... and them asking how did I get an entire Space Marine army with what they call "Mark 6 Armor" these days

Anyways, it was a bit of a challenge to really make black figures stand out with details and yet look decent.

My friends having the same problem with his black templars, he' finally decided to try doing about twelve layers of watered down black/gray, although with his new baby he hasn't had much chance to get started, heh the major complaint from most of the others at the moment is the way the codexes and main rule book are set up.

Necron - 99, My one friend plays Necrons, they are the scourge of my Iron Warriors, ugh, what kind of paint scheme did you have.

Elint Seeker - Both good picks, unfortunately we don't have anyone that plays either at the moment, we just restarted our Warhammer 40k a couple of weeks ago, we have Necrons, Plain Old Space Marines, World Eaters, and my Iron Warriors that I mainly play, but the guy who plays the space marines is working on a new dark eldar army and I've got a 2500 point IG army myself with Tau, Eldar, and one squad of Space Marines I'm working on.

How was your guys experience with WH40K, the goods and the bads, did you play in any actual tournaments or casual play. Any Tips for speeding the game up. What point sizes do you prefer.

If you guys are ever in the Mansfield, Ohio area let me know, we can knock together a game or something.

Any Warhammer 40K Players on here.

Ah, that explains it. Don't happen to have any high resolution line art of it do ya? Thanks bris

No unfortunately not, it's one of the books I've been looking for.

Here's a link to a little entry on the MAHQ, an entry I'm curious about:

Zentradi Drone from DYRL

I was going to ask Chris about this, but I figure I can get an answer here as well. What is this craft and where does it appear in the movie? I'm going to have to look through my Gold Book when I finish work today, but I don't think I've seen it inside that book. Anyone know?

I think it's actually from the DYRL? Game.

I'm not sure what Macross would be without the title, but I never did like the "Super Dimension Fortress" thing, even after all these years. I'm really glad they dropped it for subsequent shows.

Actually, most japanese anime could go without these overly descriptive, pretentious titles. I don't mind weird (Cowboy Bebop, anyone?) but silliness like Super Dimension Fortress Macross or Neon Genesis Evangelion or Martian Successor Nadesico. These titles mean nothing to me before I see the show and once I do understand the title, it's always a disappointment. Take A Clockwork Orange, or The Matrix, or The Shawshank Redemption and compare. Once you understand what the title means, you're thrilled with revelation and the cleverness of the strange title. Once you know what Super Dimension Fortress Macross means, it's just the title of the spaceship; big deal! Is it an appropriate title given the context of the show? Yes. Is it a good title? Absolutely not, especially given how completely nonsensical it is to anyone who hasn't seen the show and how irritatingly burdensome it is to speak or write for those who have (acronyms not withstanding).

Yup, this is MacrossWorld, alright

Well if you haven't figured out Cowboy Bebop [don't know if you have seen it or not], Bebop is the name of the ship and bounty hunters are called Cowboys.

And that's assuming that the new reprinted cards haven't had some rules tweak that changes them from their orrginal incarnations. Also, the expansion sets are used in blocks of three. So as soon as the new product comes out, the last one is no longer legal which means that all the players have to ditch those cards and buy the new ones...

It's like paper crack, it really is. I watch these people drop (literally) hundreds of dollars a week on this hobby and I just have to shake my head.

Heh, the official term is five color crack, I worked [more like kept it in business] in a comic and gaming shop for three years, and if I had a penny for every ten bucks that was dropped I'd have twenty years worth of warhammer stuff to put together.

And what really annoyed me about the magic players, we'd have d20 or D&D once a week and they had around 4-5 tournaments a week and had the gall to b*tch about us taking up table space.

I'm not a Magic player, so I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that each new Magic set can be used in a deck with cards that go all the way back to the original?

I think the thing that's getting D&D players all fired up is the fact that, at $30-40, most of us have hundreds of dollars tied up in 3rd and 3.5 edition books. I myself have invested about $575, and some of them I just bought, like Drow of the Underdark. And now Wizards is telling me to shelve them all and start over from scratch on a new system that, if it's like Sagas, I don't even like.

Only if they are reprinted in a currently legal set, and I understand the griping about $30-40 dollar thing, I have a four shelf book-shelf crammed with 3rd and 3.5 stuff myself. It just seems wizards is shooting themselves in the foot on several fronts.

briscojr84

Yes, that would certainly be a very interesting way to make capital ship combat a bit more interesting. One could even extend combat ranges to ridiculous distances, making stealth and electronic warfare all the more important. I like this idea.

Now that I think about it now since I haven't read much of the series lately, missile pods ala the Honor Harrington series would be more feasible.

Apparently, the forums over at Wizards have two threads, one for those excited for 4th, and one for people to complain about 4th. Guess which one has more replies? My friend over there told me that, as of this morning, there was maybe 20 in the pro, and over 100 in the negative.

I can't blame people for complaining, Wizards keeps doing really stupid stuff, they've canceled at least one D20 book that people wanted, pretty much ignores d20 for the last year or so, are going to start putting out four sets of magic a year instead of three and now are changing the D&D format again.

I was actually thinking pin-point barrier equipped missiles was always a potentially deadly new concept in Macross. It would alter the dynamics of Macross Mecha combat in certain ways, since the highly advance accuracy brought about by OverTechnology mecha allowed the shooting down of missiles in flight with gunpods and lasers. I figured, what better way to make battle more interesting?

I was also thinking perhaps the composite material wing of the YF-21 (the "liquid wing") would find application in a more advanced UN Spacy. But yeah, this is more geek dreaming than anything else

If Macross Frontier went one step further beyond just micronization of fold technology, I could think of some seriously fun ways to use it.

*evil grin*

Tactical fold jumping in Valkyrie combat would...be...AWESOME! Power usage would no doubt regulate rampant use of the capability, but oh what anime-like fun could be had with "blinking" mecha in battle. I'm REALLY surprised no one has done this yet, especially since the visual style of fast-paced anime combat seems so well suited to this kind of science fiction concept. Hell, the way some anime is drawn and edited, it already feels like mecha pop out of nowhere

What do ya think?

Go a step further fold capable missiles, at least on the capitol ships anyway, since most of those things are almost the size of a valk.

Why do you say that?

Roy does have a bit of a point, with feats, skills, and abilities it does some time get cumbersome, I'm just glad they ditched THAC0 for 3rd.

Now you know how Magic players feel. They've been hosed for years by WotC and their incessent rereleases.

Word of advice stay away from Ohio then. You'll want to kill any of those guys if you ever meet them.

I haven't heard of anything yet, but I'm assuming that they will be updated as well. Im guessing they will wait for fallout (positive or negative) from the release of 4th Edition before trying to update d20 Modern or d20 Future.

Thanks for the info.

Hey 1st BRD, any word on if they are redoing d20 Modern, Future etc. as well or just the D&D stuff.

Okay, as the title says, I am after line art drawings or pictures of a VF-4 valkyrie pilot suit. I am actually more after the helmet as from what I can remember, the pilot suit is pretty much same as the VF-1 ones.

Any help would be great!

These are the only pics that I have.

http://www.un-spacy-qmtdb.com/uns/Uniforms...0Suits/2012.htm

The newest incredible hulk, gamma irradiated poodles and pit bulls. Blech.

Ultraviolet.

AVP.

All the resident evil movies.

Oh, almost forgot Starship Troopers 2.