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also the front landing gear doors are metal, but that it about it.

It better be a betta!

nope , THIS is creepy : what is that from?

Thats the same price they are selling the Chirico figure for, it's a typo. I'm willing to bet they'll fix and charge you regular even if you pre-order one under that price.

Ooooh god! Ooooooh god my eyes! This image is burned on my mind forever. Every time I try to sleep or eat this image will pop into my head.

not to jump all over you with political correctness and all, but you may want to avoid using "Japs" as many consider that a rather derogatory way of refering to japanese people. Just an offer of friendly advice. I know you probably didn't mean anything by it, but I've seen a few people get in trouble for using it.

Crap, I'm obviously a pediphile cause I'm left handed If cat girls count then yes Anyway, dayam, I collect both trek and SW and I'm left handed what does that say about me?

It's because most sci-fi fans are lonely pathetic men and most child molesters are lonely pathetic men, thats the real connection.

I figure this movie might be good for a gag or two, but nothing else. I may catch it when it's on cable.

Hey, what ever happened with Commander Cody? Didn't Obi-wan have to kill him?

We should pin a topic stating, "Yes, we have heard of stealth, yes it will suck"

wasn't he about 10 in phantom menace? then another 10 years pass between that and Attack of the Clones, and about 3 years pass in revenge of the sith. and luke is supposed to be around 20 at the beginning of ANH, so Vader is probably in his mid forties by the start of ANH. How long was the period between ANH and the end of ROTJ supposed to be?

wow, I like the metalic finish you used for the blue. I guess on that scale it actually looks pretty good.

Just got back from a midnight showing. It was pretty good. The dialogue still made me want to cring though.

wife commits suicide, they bury her. Blooms daddy comes home, does the whole "I am your father bit" and asks him to come with him to Jerusalum. Priest tells Bloom's character something very nasty that pisses Bloom's character off enough to spear him and toss him into a flaming pit.

Or go all-out and give us an NC-17 with explicit alien/predator love scenes. That would be worse than anything they've yet come up with. Lol...in today's world anything is possible. please, don't give the bad directors bad ideas, they most certainly will use them

I wholely agree, still, we all have ideologies, they are not bad things, hell you don't even have to be wholely flexible with them, what is needed though is a willingness to listen, offer ones arguments, listen to the opositions, answer in a fairly intelligent way instead of responding with the standard "Nyah your a poo head". Perhaps my biggest problem today is that alot of people seem to have the idea that because people disagree with them those people must hate them. Also friendly chat does not always mean agreement. A table full of head nodders gets really boring fast The only reason I was discussing my feelings on religious ideology with so much verbosity was because it was one of the primary topics of this thread.

We see here and there abuses of religion. . . and we totally overlook the good that it has inspired and been responsible for throughout history. Well, I was offering defense for both demonizers and exhaulters. I am of the school of thought that religion is a two edged sword and can be harmful and benificial, it can justify some horrid things (Like well, a holy war, Crusade or Jihad), but then it can give people hope and drive them to commit great acts of charity. (Look at Mother Terisa, Ghandi) I am often wary of religion but I hope my comments did no come off as I am a person who feels all religion (western, eastern or middle eastern) is absolute evil. Personally, I think alot of people are disapointed with religion, and that disapointment often turns to hate, but in many ways by hating something, people are partaking in the same thing alot of people accuse certain christian groups of being. Lets be honest some groups live up to the sterotype, but again, to take a few groups (and or individuals) as the total representation of a whole is foolish. That would be like saying, these few catholic priests are pediphiles, thus all catholic priests are pediphiles. Even as a non-practicing catholic, I am highly offended by all the negative sterotypes of the religion I was raised under that have popped up. That doesn't mean I agree with everything they do, and I always try and stay critical of relgion, but at times people often go so far overboard with their anti-relgion kick that I have to stand back and say, woah now. You probably had a bad experience, and I can't fix that, but please, don't make sweeping assumptions about a whole group because of a few a-holes. Again, I agree with alot of what you say in regard to this Hurin, I was just commenting on how peoples experinces will color their views, and my opinion that we have to be aware that many people have had very different experiences that result in their personal bias. BTW, I never thought you were the kind of guy who would deny his bias.

Actually Hurin, I really wasn't adressing you in any specific way. BTW I find peoples tendancy to only think in good and evil even more distressing than all the anti-religious sentiment (though the whole religion is evil bit is probably caught up in it). I'm not particularly religious myself, and to be honest I don't care how most other people feel as long as I don't get it rubbed in my face. Though, I have to ask, did you groan to when you saw this thread pop up, knowing that a lil flame war was most certainly gonna be the result?

I really am waiting for this thread to get locked. Though while I can, I am glad to hear that Kingdom of heaven wasn't a islam bash fest. That is not to say I am glad to hear it is a christian bash fest which really isn't fair either. My personal feelings aside, this movie sounds so PC that I get the impression that the side people take about this movie tells more about that person than it does about the movie. I had some concern this movie was going to be a glorification of the crusades, I think alot of people did from the previews, but from the sound of it it seems it stayed mostly center with a slightly anti-crusade message. Alot of religions have been used to justify some pretty horrendous things, even Buddhism, the religion that in a few polls was voted the least evil religion, has been usurped and used for personal gain. In defense of all people who have a tendancy to demonize or exhault one religion over another, alot of people have different experiences with religions, many good experiences and many bad. A good or bad personal experience or experiences will most certainly skew particular peoples perspectives for or against a religion. I've had positive and negative experiences with several religions as my family is a mix of many different faiths. Mostly varients of western religions, but still you would be suprised by the variety of ideas that one finds among these denominations that share the same text. Anyway, alot of people come to the table with different experiential baggage, so I can't condemn people for their bias. No one lacks bias, I don't care if certain people think they don't have a bias, people who say they don' are lying to themselves and the world. That said, people ought to try and listen to things outside their narrow view of the world. Perhaps the problem I have reading this thread is that, despite a fair number of fairly level headed posts (you can behave in a level headed manner and still stick to your perspective) is I see a strong level of inability to respectfully have a conversation without lowering oneself to name calling. This is the main reason I don't really talk to any of my highly polemic family members any more, and I have em on both left and right sides.

Well, I think the creepyness factor was part of the point.

While on occassion this movie got something right, well, for everything it kinda sorta got right, it did about 15 things absolutly wrong. I went in with very low expectations so I managed to get a modicum of pleasure from it, but purists stay away, and people who have not read the books, well, read the books 1st because this is a movie that is going to make you not want to read the book.

It is most certainly a gag. if they were really breaking up I doubt they'd make comics about it.

OMG! Homer looks like that bald fat guy who dressed up as optimus on halloween. You all know the picture so I won't burn any more retinas by posting it again.

after TNG I lost interest in trek so I really just have TOS and TNG to choose from. It's kind of a tough call for me. I think 1st when looking at it you have to determine who really was the core cast of each series and who were the secondary characters. TOS it's pretty obvious, Kirk, Spock and McCoy. While the other characters had their moments it was the interaction between these three that really brought the whole series to life, there was a brotherhood there that really just does not come across in any of the following series. TNG I'd say the core cast was Picard, Data and Worf. While as individuals I think I prefer these characters over the original core cast, as a total whole they never really developed the strong brotherhood that TOS core cast had. But I think as individual characters they over the course of the series were fleshed out more than TOS cast. As a group I'd go with TOS Individually I prefere the 3 core cast members of TNG and finally, childhood nostalgia. I grew up on TNG and only developed an apreciation for TOS later on so in the end TNG wins. Though I feel both casts have strong merits and nostalgia aside I probably would have voted TOS.